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was Gloria Swanson supposed to be exaggerated? She gets on my last nerve even though I like Sunset Boulevard. What I like is William Holden, not her. is she supposed to be deliberate? or is that typical of Gloria Swanson?
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06-12-2010, 11:38 PM
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she certainly played a nutter in the film. her eyes were scary with madness.
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That goes to show what a talent she was! I am a huge fan of Norma...oops, I mean Gloria!! Lol, her character in Sunset Boulevard has become so identified and intermingled with her real persona, that one tends to confuse them - not sure how Miss Swanson would take that, but it is a credit to her acting ability.
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Venus, hi! So glad you're participating in the thread.
Sunset Boulevard is one of my favorite films too. I own the film, never fail to watch it on TCM when it's on, and have lost count of the times I've seen it - must be at least 100 times, and that's a modest number!! My favorite part - because it's so poignant, and she does it soooo well, is the part early in the film when William Holden is in her bedroom, and he recognizes her and says: "I know you. You're Norma Desmond. You used to be big." and she replys as the camera comes in for a close-up: "I AM BIG, it's the PICTURES that got small!!!" Wow, what a line!!! Love it!!! I have read Gloria Swanson's biography, and have seen clips of vids where she's interviewed (you can prob find them on YouTube.com) Gloria Swanson was an international MEGA film icon in her day. Anything she did or said, or wore (she was a clothes-horse!), was BIG NEWS. She received thousands of fan mail weekly (just like in Sunset - only the mail was not 'faked'), and had a staff just for handling fan mail. She started out her movie career as a Max Sennet 'bathing beauty' around the age of 15. She was indeed a SUPER STAR during the silent film era, and those clips you see of her in Sunset Boulevard are from a big hit she made in the 20's called Queen Kelly. So the dipiction of her as a 'has-been' in Sunset, was not too far from the truth for many a silent film star. However, Gloria Swanson made a very good transition to the 'talkies', and appeared in many films way after the silent film was 'dead'. She had a great speaking voice, so the talkies, if anything, enhanced her career. As you may know, the 'talkies' ruined many a career of the big stars of the silents. So Gloria knew first-hand' what the talkies were all about, because many of her movie star friends' careers were over when the talkies came to town. Everyone thought it was just a passing fad back then, but the talkies were here to stay. Quote:
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No, my cinema comrade, Gloria was NOT like that. The exaggerated acting was indicative of the silent film era. Since there was no dialogue, emoting had to be very physical to show emotions. It had to be exaggerated so the public would 'know' what 'feelings' were being conveyed. (Also, in the silents, makeup tended to be very exaggerated as well. This also added to what sometimes appears as a bit grotesque or bizarre appearence of the characters.)That's why you see a lot of that in the silents. Some stars, i.e., Norma Shearer carried those exagerrated motions to the talking pictures. If you've seen The Women, you'll notice how she over-acts her role at times.
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WHEN???? Those are 3 great flicks, comrade!
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Jet, is this on today? I haven't checked the schedule?
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Lord, I've so many films on both DVD & VHS, and don't know what to watch. TCM seems dismal these days...wonder who the hell is doing the programming!
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Hi Carmin! i thought i might join the discussion over here if i can...unfortunately i am still limited to the films that my library owns on DVD and the three Jet mentioned above do not exist in the catalog.
and i can't even add them b/c we just cleaned out our materials budget! No collection development funds till OCTOBER! (the City Manager was freaking out that we still have so much cash this late in the fiscal cycle and implying we must not need it and that other departments [read- police] might deserve it more) |
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TCM REMINDER Featured Actor for July Gregory Peck My personal favorites:
To Kill a Mockingbird The Paradine Case The Big Country Gentleman's Agreement |
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Oh! I also got The Thin Man. I have seen it once before years ago but all i remember is the martinis
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I watched Gregory Peck last night, I really enjoyed it.
One movie he did that does bother me is The Boys from Brazil. I'm sensitive to anything antisemtic or fascist especially Josef Mengele. But Peck and Laurence Olivier (as Simon Weisenthal or from the foundation, I forget) deliver great performances. It's nice to see two giants in one movie. It's just kind of weird to see Gregory Peck play a maniac. See ya at the movies fellow classic cinema comrades. |
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I loved Gentleman's Agreement!
My very very first thought was that I found the foley intrusive and noticed some repetition- same horn honk pattern on two different street scenes- but the lighting was amazing! Esp. when Phil visits Mr. Minify for the first time and you can see the shadow of a plant on the back wall... I liked the foreshadowing re: her weakness of character conveyed in Kathy's cocktail-party semi-mocking, half-defensive self-analysis I wonder if, the first two times we see Ma, she is wearing those jarring loud prints to confer a vitality that she will subsequently lose? And is that why the makeup artist allowed more face-shine when everyone else was in that gorgeous matte makeup b&w films always have? If so i am not sure it was successful... The whole marriage talk seemed really sudden to me- i get that the mores of the time left no other avenue once you swapped spit with a 'nice girl,' but she was a divorcee. Maybe time was telescoped and i missed it. I love the secretary but her reaction when she hears about the change in hiring policy so totally reminds me of how closeted queers will show hostility to out queers (this has happened to me). And the off-hand revelation about said hiring policies- could have been the major conflict and i am not sure it shouldn't have been, i felt like the story bogged down for maybe just a moment after Dave showed up. So shocking the way he grabbed Miss Wales's arm in their last scene together- TOTALLY could not do that now! That final scene is just gorgeous, and once again i am struck by how the limitations of b&w really brought out production creativity, e.g. the checkered floor outside Kathy's apartment. All in all a really gorgeous and touching movie! I'm glad i got to see it! thanks for the recommendation! |
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