Gulf Oil Slick

Sabine Gallais · 06-14-2010, 12:23 PM

Why have we turned down offers from the Dutch to come over and suck up the oil so that it wouldn’t have had to turn into an ecological holocaust? Three days after BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling platform exploded in the Gulf of Mexico, the Netherlands offered to help. Ships could have set about clearing the oil using Dutch sweeping arms, but the US government didn’t take up the offer. Why?

Why are we ignoring the fact that dispersant merely acted to submerge the oil creating giant underwater plumes stretching for miles and making clean up impossible? And why is the media ignoring that BP was allowed to run the show (literally a show) and manipulate the public as to how much oil was actually coming out of that pipe? (And, STILL does as a matter of fact.) First it was 5,000 and now it’s 50,000 barrels per day. Who knows? Let's have a press conference!

Corkey · 06-14-2010, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabine Gallais

Why have we turned down offers from the Dutch to come over and suck up the oil so that it wouldn’t have had to turn into an ecological holocaust? Three days after BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling platform exploded in the Gulf of Mexico, the Netherlands offered to help. Ships could have set about clearing the oil using Dutch sweeping arms, but the US government didn’t take up the offer. Why?

Why are we ignoring the fact that dispersant merely acted to submerge the oil creating giant underwater plumes stretching for miles and making clean up impossible? And why is the media ignoring that BP was allowed to run the show (literally a show) and manipulate the public as to how much oil was actually coming out of that pipe? (And, STILL does as a matter of fact.) First it was 5,000 and now it’s 50,000 barrels per day. Who knows? Let's have a press conference!

It could be that the Dutch were turned down due to ownership rights, cause ya' know BP is only sucking up the oil so it can be sold by them to us. It could be that the US government isn't in the business of oil reclamation, and as such has limited resources as a military operation to do anything to help. It could be many things, thing is you are asking the wrong people WHY any of this is in our ability to answer. Try your representative who probably takes big oil pac dollars, or your Senator, who's pockets are lined with big oils dollars. We the people have no friggen clue WHY.

Glenn · 06-14-2010, 02:57 PM

I'm not a conspiracy theorist but:
Mar. 17,2010
BP CEO Hayward sells 223,288 shares.
April 12,2010
Halliburton pays 232 million after spill to company "Boots&Coots"
This month
SEC investigating shorts placed on TransOcean stocks days before explosion.
Today
Folks are getting arrested for taking pictures, and reporters are prevented from doing their jobs...OUTRAGED!

theoddz · 06-14-2010, 02:58 PM

I'm wondering when it's going to be announced that gas prices are going to go up, due to the spill in the Gulf.

That would, quite simply, be the garnish for this whole entire shit sandwich.

~Theo~

Toughy · 06-14-2010, 03:43 PM

BP refused the Dutch offer of help. The US government did not refuse help. BP is in charge not the government.

Some parts of the mainstream media are ignoring the plumes. Rachel Maddow (for one) has not been ignoring the plumes or the horrific response to maintaining and replacing the various types of booms BP keeps proudly telling you how much boom they have laid out. Putting boom in the water and then walking away is not a response.

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Gas has dropped about 11 cents a gallon since oil began spewing out of the well head.

Gas prices normally go up in the summer and prior to this disaster was going up. Now prices have dropped.

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popcorn....

msdemeanor address the stock issue in a previous post in this thread There is nothing going on about that.

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AtLast · 06-14-2010, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Toughy

BP refused the Dutch offer of help. The US government did not refuse help. BP is in charge not the government.

Some parts of the mainstream media are ignoring the plumes. Rachel Maddow (for one) has not been ignoring the plumes or the horrific response to maintaining and replacing the various types of booms BP keeps proudly telling you how much boom they have laid out. Putting boom in the water and then walking away is not a response.

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Gas has dropped about 11 cents a gallon since oil began spewing out of the well head.

Gas prices normally go up in the summer and prior to this disaster was going up. Now prices have dropped.

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popcorn....

msdemeanor address the stock issue in a previous post in this thread There is nothing going on about that.

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this post was brought to you by an independent also...........since CA passed the stupidest open primary law anywhere it matters not what political party you belong to.......

And I wonder what Obama will be saying about who is in charge tomorrow night? The only person that appears to me like he has a realistic take on things is Thad Allen. Realistic does include the gravity and idiocy in the whole situation.

Maddow's coverage has been super with getting the plume message out. And those puppies really bother me.

The gas prices are interesting, what's up with this? I don't fill up very much, have no idea what gas prices have been doing.

Yanno, I'm just not concerned about BP's stock prices in terms of British retirees or shareholoders. However, my guess is that from the start, BP's financial analysts have been working on the bankruptcy rationale they will be filing. They are going to get out of the cost of clean-up, re-organize and come back and drill in the Gulf. I just don't believe they will and the brunt of the costs will come right from our pockets. This escrow fund being talked about in the Congress is bogus political posturing.

Hummmm... our new CA open primary legislation .... I voted no, but to be honest, I am not entirely against open primaries. I am registered as decline to state, anyway.

Diavolo · 06-14-2010, 09:47 PM

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this post was brought to you by an independent also...........since CA passed the stupidest open primary law anywhere it matters not what political party you belong to.......

Aren't you looking forward to our own Alvin Greene?

AtLast · 06-14-2010, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Diavolo

Aren't you looking forward to our own Alvin Greene?

Maybe I'm not so kewl with open primaries...

Also, the reports of sickness due to toxins are now being reported. However, BP is trying their best to keep this under wraps.

Gulf Oil Spill Sickness: Cleanup Workers Experience Health Problems, Complain Of Flulike Symptoms

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_598816.html

Toughy · 06-15-2010, 06:22 AM

I am so against open primaries. Esp the CA law. The CA law says that, regardless of party affiliation, the 2 candidates who receive the most votes will face off in the general election . That means in a good part of CA you will have 2 Republican facing each other in the general election. I don't think that is choice at all.

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I don't think the escrow thing is posturing. I think it may indeed happen.

Tonight should be interesting.

Sabine Gallais · 06-15-2010, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Toughy

BP refused the Dutch offer of help. The US government did not refuse help. BP is in charge not the government.

That little detail is of little comfort.

BP and its employees have given more than $3.5 million to federal candidates over the past 20 years. Make no mistake: BP ranks among the most powerful corporate forces in U.S. politics.

Andrew, Jr. · 06-15-2010, 02:17 PM

Rep. Ed Towns of NY went to see for himself the Gulf. He stated to some reporter that it is BP's problem, and they have to be responsible for paying the bill for the cleanup, not taxpayers. President Obama vows to hold BP responsible for this nightmare. We all will see how this plays out.

Then the reporter stated that in the Florida panhandle oil bloobs are now coming ashore.

President Obama will be on in 3 hours to address this. I hope he turns it around, and help those who lost everything.

06-14-2010, 12:23 PM	#1
Sabine Gallais Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Adeodatus Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New York Posts: 43 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 6 Thanked 59 Times in 23 Posts Rep Power: 7871	Why have we turned down offers from the Dutch to come over and suck up the oil so that it wouldn’t have had to turn into an ecological holocaust? Three days after BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling platform exploded in the Gulf of Mexico, the Netherlands offered to help. Ships could have set about clearing the oil using Dutch sweeping arms, but the US government didn’t take up the offer. Why? Why are we ignoring the fact that dispersant merely acted to submerge the oil creating giant underwater plumes stretching for miles and making clean up impossible? And why is the media ignoring that BP was allowed to run the show (literally a show) and manipulate the public as to how much oil was actually coming out of that pipe? (And, STILL does as a matter of fact.) First it was 5,000 and now it’s 50,000 barrels per day. Who knows? Let's have a press conference! __________________ Meallan muilte Dé go mall ach meallan siad go mion.

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theoddz Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Cranky Old Poop Preferred Pronoun?: Mr. Beast Relationship Status: Married to a beautiful babe whom I don't deserve. Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Central Texas Posts: 3,541 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 11,143 Thanked 9,938 Times in 2,513 Posts Rep Power: 21474855	I'm wondering when it's going to be announced that gas prices are going to go up, due to the spill in the Gulf. That would, quite simply, be the garnish for this whole entire shit sandwich. *~Theo~* __________________ *"All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost."* -- J. R. R. Tolkien

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