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Old 06-15-2010, 06:04 PM   #1
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I've never heard a group of femmes make the same disgusting comments. And I'm not talking about cussing or being ironically frat boy esque...I'm talking about being misogynistically GROSS.
i have seen femmes giggle at this and make light of it if someone objects. i think a few have even enjoyed it.
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Old 06-15-2010, 07:02 PM   #2
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i have seen femmes giggle at this and make light of it if someone objects. i think a few have even enjoyed it.
I promise that was not my response.
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I promise that was not my response.
i think i missed something. Anyway, i am SURE you would never respond that way.
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i have seen femmes giggle at this and make light of it if someone objects. i think a few have even enjoyed it.
I'm definitely *not* arguing with you about your experience...definitely not

In MY experience, I have NEVER seen a femme giggle about it or enjoy it. I have seen a femme try to lighten the mood if ThePig is called out, but I have never seen a femme enjoy it (unless it was her partner saying it to her, but that's a different horse, and none of my business). I've seen femmes sit uncomfortably while some piggish butch made comments about their asses/bippies/outfits/whatnot...but not enjoy.

Again, I'm so not arguing with your experience...just sharing the differences in experiences.


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Old 06-15-2010, 08:10 PM   #5
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A funny story, probably nothing to do with the OP, more with Dylan & Nat's sideways derail kinda..
Several years back, I went to a Halloween party at a friends house, and I wore a corset and..some other things ( I think the over all costume was general gypsy.. ) , nice very stick em up and out there corset...! A couple people came in, that never took off their masks.. While I knew a lot of people there, there was some I didn't, and.. many BF, but some not.. Anyway, these 2 people, were.. really .. overly familiar... and made very lewd comments..so I just moved away.. But it did irritate me.. and I really hated it.
Other thing s were going on, I forgot about it..
Come to find out later, I did actually know one of them.. And I was even angrier.. and surprised, at their behavior, which I guess, was emboldened by the whole no one knows who we are.. blech..
Anyway, no, I don't enjoy it.. Ok, consenting adults playing consensual games, thats a different story..
Oh I forgot.. Sort of the point was.. I presumed, as in assumed, the two people, were "regular as in non BF ple who don't identify as such " Lesbians. The shocking part to me, was that one actually was a Butch.
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A funny story, probably nothing to do with the OP, more with Dylan & Nat's sideways derail kinda..
Several years back, I went to a Halloween party at a friends house, and I wore a corset and..some other things ( I think the over all costume was general gypsy.. ) , nice very stick em up and out there corset...! A couple people came in, that never took off their masks.. While I knew a lot of people there, there was some I didn't, and.. many BF, but some not.. Anyway, these 2 people, were.. really .. overly familiar... and made very lewd comments..so I just moved away.. But it did irritate me.. and I really hated it.
Other thing s were going on, I forgot about it..
Come to find out later, I did actually know one of them.. And I was even angrier.. and surprised, at their behavior, which I guess, was emboldened by the whole no one knows who we are.. blech..
Anyway, no, I don't enjoy it.. Ok, consenting adults playing consensual games, thats a different story..
Oh I forgot.. Sort of the point was.. I presumed, as in assumed, the two people, were "regular as in non BF ple who don't identify as such " Lesbians. The shocking part to me, was that one actually was a Butch.
That is totally not cool.
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Old 06-15-2010, 09:08 PM   #7
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a little of the clarification you asked for...


earlier when i pointed to dylans post i was in some weird spot in my head that was just saying 'hells yeah' really loudly...

he said a lot of what was in my head very thoroughly and well... i obviously couldnt do it...

i have read several very insightful posts here... many from folks of the femme persuasion that i appreciated immensely...

i had read too many posts from folks that refused to see or hear the parts where i said that i in no way thought a femme was weak or helpless or in need of rescue...

i was amazed at how many had to speak up and say that this was an absurd topic because by god they werent that way so it must not exist...

i saw dylans post as very easy to understand and so well said that it was unarguable...
and... yeah... i know not all of it applies to not everyone... but... enough of it was what i wanted to point out that i got all giddy and shit and had to give it a big hell yeah!

thanks yall for the thought you have provoked...
a lot of us do not respect femmes the way we should...
a lot of us are guilty of pushing ourselves on or above a femme without thought...
if this helps anything... i welcome the idiocy i was exposed to for broaching the subject...

thanks yall...

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i feel i should apologize for being in my own head for most of my posts in this thread... i sometimes have a hard time getting my thoughts to words... i know that i cant expect everyone to understand what the hell i am trying to get at...hell maybe i shouldnt expect anyone to get it...
no one else knows i am in actuality a stand up kinda person that just likes to look at stuff from a lot of different directions... even a lot of them that arent and never would be mine own... everyones opinions count to someone...
sometimes i like to try to find out why...
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Well maybe we are imagining different levels of piggish behavior.

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I'm definitely *not* arguing with you about your experience...definitely not

In MY experience, I have NEVER seen a femme giggle about it or enjoy it. I have seen a femme try to lighten the mood if ThePig is called out, but I have never seen a femme enjoy it (unless it was her partner saying it to her, but that's a different horse, and none of my business). I've seen femmes sit uncomfortably while some piggish butch made comments about their asses/bippies/outfits/whatnot...but not enjoy.

Again, I'm so not arguing with your experience...just sharing the differences in experiences.


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