Gulf Oil Slick

[MsDemeanor]

Originally Posted by BornBronson

I don't have much to say about this oil spill.I do know I will be paying 10 dollars a gallon at the pumps soon,we all will.But hey,life goes on.

I doubt this. If the spill were going to affect pump prices, it would have already. Funny, though, time after time the companies all raise prices because one of them has some negative event at a refinery. To me, this pretty much proves what a *cough bullshit cough* excuse that is, and gives me further reason to wonder why the only people in this entire country who don't see the lies and collusion are our elected representatives who investigate this stuff. I know exactly why, actually, it just frustrates me to no end.

Originally Posted by dreadgeek

I am at a complete loss at how to even begin answering this stuff--in part because there's so damn much of it ranging all over hells' half-acre.

Why bother? It's like the tons of spam email that we all get, bogus crap that belongs in the computer trash bin.

[dreadgeek]

Originally Posted by MsDemeanor

I doubt this. If the spill were going to affect pump prices, it would have already. Funny, though, time after time the companies all raise prices because one of them has some negative event at a refinery. To me, this pretty much proves what a *cough bullshit cough* excuse that is, and gives me further reason to wonder why the only people in this entire country who don't see the lies and collusion are our elected representatives who investigate this stuff. I know exactly why, actually, it just frustrates me to no end.

Why bother? It's like the tons of spam email that we all get, bogus crap that belongs in the computer trash bin.

Because you and I both know that the minute this stuff sits there without challenge it will gain credibility of the "well, it could be true and since no one has said anything to the contrary, maybe it is true. Oh my god, the chips that are being inserted into vaccines are causing autism!" We've seen it before. You're absolutely right these rantings are a species of spam but the only filtering we can do in this venue is to counter the bad information with good information that points out just how truly laughable these ideas are.

Cheers
Aj

[MsDemeanor]

Originally Posted by dreadgeek

Because you and I both know that the minute this stuff sits there without challenge it will gain credibility of the "well, it could be true and since no one has said anything to the contrary, maybe it is true. Oh my god, the chips that are being inserted into vaccines are causing autism!" We've seen it before. You're absolutely right these rantings are a species of spam but the only filtering we can do in this venue is to counter the bad information with good information that points out just how truly laughable these ideas are.

Cheers
Aj

This is high on the list of reasons why I adore you so....

[Andrew, Jr.]

Is anyone here tracking Alex? I hope and pray that this oil slick is stopped sooner than later. It makes me sick to watch. I have to change the channel when it comes on. It is so upsetting to see the dead animals and oil on the beaches, and in the ocean.

[Toughy]

I am watching an interesting 2 hour documentary on History Channel (yeah yeah I know...) titled Crude. It's traces the history of oil from it's origins in the Jurassic Period until today. It's interesting.

It is a bit pro oil so far...........but it is the rich white man's History Channel.

[cinderella]

My dearest Kam. You know I love you dear. But, as I've always said, if all the things you are predicting, or think will happen (and maybe they will), we cannot stop it. Do we launch a spaceship and go to another planet? Do we stay here, in our homeground and fight it out (if we can). It sounds like Armageddon indeed, in your view - maybe it is, and maybe it isn't. We, us humans, have had many times when we thought our time was/is running out. But somehow we've survived it. Only time will tell, dearest. It does nothing for you, personally, to carry on like this. Many will scoff and laugh. Please don't expose yourself to ridicule, because that is what you are doing, my sweet. We hear your words. If we choose to harken, or not, that is our choice. You have done the best you can, don't exhaust yourself any longer.

[Toughy]

Originally Posted by cinderella

My dearest Kam. You know I love you dear. But, as I've always said, if all the things you are predicting, or think will happen (and maybe they will), we cannot stop it. Do we launch a spaceship and go to another planet? Do we stay here, in our homeground and fight it out (if we can). It sounds like Armageddon indeed, in your view - maybe it is, and maybe it isn't. We, us humans, have had many times when we thought our time was/is running out. But somehow we've survived it. Only time will tell, dearest. It does nothing for you, personally, to carry on like this. Many will scoff and laugh. Please don't expose yourself to ridicule, because that is what you are doing, my sweet. We hear your words. If we choose to harken, or not, that is our choice. You have done the best you can, don't exhaust yourself any longer.

look Carmin............nobody gets to spout of stuff that is impossible........and not get called on it.

Besides, I asked some honest questions and get no answer.....I do like to try and find out if there is grain of fact in this stuff and where folks get these ideas.

[Soon]

[Corkey]

http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_new...e-is-important

[dreadgeek]

Originally Posted by cinderella

My dearest Kam. You know I love you dear. But, as I've always said, if all the things you are predicting, or think will happen (and maybe they will), we cannot stop it. Do we launch a spaceship and go to another planet? Do we stay here, in our homeground and fight it out (if we can). It sounds like Armageddon indeed, in your view - maybe it is, and maybe it isn't. We, us humans, have had many times when we thought our time was/is running out. But somehow we've survived it. Only time will tell, dearest. It does nothing for you, personally, to carry on like this. Many will scoff and laugh. Please don't expose yourself to ridicule, because that is what you are doing, my sweet. We hear your words. If we choose to harken, or not, that is our choice. You have done the best you can, don't exhaust yourself any longer.

I'm curious--if someone was spreading false information, would you rather it continue to spread or would you prefer it be countered by facts? You're absolutely correct, the end has been predicted many, many, many, times before and every single time it has been wrong. That should tell us something. In the 19th century the Millerites thought the end was near--and it wasn't. In the early 20th century the Jehovah's Witnesses thought the end was near--and it wasn't. Throughout the 20th century this or that sect has predicted Armageddon or the return of Christ or the 'final alien invasion' and none of them have come to pass.

What I find most fascinating about this is that people will give any credence to the most wild-eyed fantasies of Armageddon or alien invasions but will scoff at real-world threats like climate change or an asteroid strike. Will there be an end to the world? Yes. Actually, there will. In about 5 billion years the Sun is going to start to die and expand out to about the orbit of Mars which, of course, will put Earth in the outer layers of the Sun. Good-bye Earth. That's 5 billion years from now, if we are still stuck on this planet without having flung our genes out to the stars we *deserve* extinction.

Before that happens, though, a big rock could hit the Earth and cause a really, really bad day for us. That happens periodically--we know that.

Chances are, folks who would accept an alien invasion would look at those scenarios as science fiction even though both of them are based in fact and one of them (the sun dying) is inevitable.

Cheers
Aj

[Toughy]

cinderella (carmin) is on a 6 week time-out so she will not be replying...........

[AtLast]

OK, I get the fear of oil rig employees in the Gulf. These are such difficult economic times. Yet, why are they not looking at the fact that 1000's are dealing with the economic ramifications there? I know it's hard to look past oneself when freaked-out, but, there is so much more in this big picture. And off-shore drilling must be investigated fully.

I find myself just internally accepting another oil rupture will happen. My soul is full of dread because I just don't see people understanding that as it stands today, we could be in peril with all of the oil rigs in the gulf as well as other areas in the US.. and the damn world!!

I absolutely do not trust what is under those rigs that have been operating with sub-standard safeguards for years now. Obviously, they have not been built or maintained safely! And this spill alone could prove to be something un-stoppable. What is wrong with people?

Shut the damn things down! No more permits for off-shore drilling! I know, naive statements. Not going to happen.


What will it take for people to get their heads out of their butts? Oh, money, that's right. How stupid of me. Now, if I honestly could believe that those who do have the scientific and technical knowledge with drilling off-shore and that the bucks were put into dealing with worst case scenarios, I might be able to see continued drilling like this. But, I just don’t see this happening. Simply do not. And what of the obvious lack of knowledge about the long term effects of what is in the Gulf right now?

Oh, that's right, it is the governments fault. And private mega-billion dollar corporations have the little people's interests at heart.... I forgot... private corporations will honestly pour $ into environmental safeguards to save themselves. Yeah, right!

What will it take to wake us up?

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by dreadgeek

Because you and I both know that the minute this stuff sits there without challenge it will gain credibility of the "well, it could be true and since no one has said anything to the contrary, maybe it is true. Oh my god, the chips that are being inserted into vaccines are causing autism!" We've seen it before. You're absolutely right these rantings are a species of spam but the only filtering we can do in this venue is to counter the bad information with good information that points out just how truly laughable these ideas are.

Cheers
Aj

Oh, yeah! What tales will be accepted as fact? What I am continually amazed with is that we have the internet now (I'm old)- it isn't like we have to go do lit reviews at a library.... And it isn't difficult at all to click past the immediate BS citations and go to the primary lioterature...