Gulf Oil Slick

[Toughy]

Originally Posted by MsDemeanor

i can't even bring myself to hit "play"....

awww come on..............just do it.........your head must need a little 'boom'...............

[NJFemmie]

*boom*




.......

(don't do it.... it...... hurts)

[Glenn]

In the last few days there have been credible reports from Houston, New Orleans, Florida, Tennesee, Ohio, and South Carolina of an oily substance coming down in the air and in the rain. Crops are dying. It's not just in the Gulf water anymore. This chemical rain is not from Corexit in the waters of the gulf. It is coming from the aerial spraying by thr Air Force of Corexit and other dispersants. Also see Dr. Riki Ott on Utube.

[dreadgeek]

Originally Posted by popcorninthesofa

In the last few days there have been credible reports from Houston, New Orleans, Florida, Tennesee, Ohio, and South Carolina of an oily substance coming down in the air and in the rain. Crops are dying. It's not just in the Gulf water anymore. This chemical rain is not from Corexit in the waters of the gulf. It is coming from the aerial spraying by thr Air Force of Corexit and other dispersants. Also see Dr. Riki Ott on Utube.

Credible reports from where? Do you have a link? A link that ISN'T a YouTube video? Do you have link to this on any of the following:

Scientific American
New Scientist
Nature
Science News

If there is a credible report--credible by what standard? Yours? Riki Ott's? The scientific community? If you are going to say that there's a credible report, don't you think that you would enhance your own credibility if you provided a link?

I recall you also saying that there were credible reports that any minute now, a giant methane bubble would burst under the Gulf creating a tsunami that would kill untold numbers of people living along the coast. No methane bubble, no tsunami, I presume that those hundreds of thousands or millions of people are still--on the whole--alive. So is there anything you can produce to corroborate this credible report? Thanks in advance.

Cheers
Aj

[dreadgeek]

Because I'm a relatively impatient AND because I have grown sadly accustomed to unsinkable rubber duckies* I thought I would Google Corexit rain to see if any *actual* credible reports were to be had.

The first two pages of results either link to Prison Planet (not exactly what I would call a reliable source) or Above Top Secret (also not reliable) or are references TO those sites. In other words, if this is happening there is not--in the entire community of chemists, geophysicists, physicists, material scientists or environmental scientists no one has reported on this. SciAm appears to be unaware of it, as does Science News, New Scientist, or Nature. Those four comprise the most reliable scientific reporting available to the general public. I find it absolutely incredible that the scientific community seems unaware of this.

Keep in mind that scientists from the various involved disciplines have been monitoring this incident from the moment it started and have been providing reliable--if not as exciting or breathless--reportage on the matter. Yet, here we have yet another breathless claim that the doom is upon us and yet there's no corroboration outside of conspiracy theory sites. The thing is, in two weeks, they (and the unsinkable rubber duckies that spread these rumours about) will move on to something else.

Originally Posted by dreadgeek

Credible reports from where? Do you have a link? A link that ISN'T a YouTube video? Do you have link to this on any of the following:

Scientific American
New Scientist
Nature
Science News

If there is a credible report--credible by what standard? Yours? Riki Ott's? The scientific community? If you are going to say that there's a credible report, don't you think that you would enhance your own credibility if you provided a link?

I recall you also saying that there were credible reports that any minute now, a giant methane bubble would burst under the Gulf creating a tsunami that would kill untold numbers of people living along the coast. No methane bubble, no tsunami, I presume that those hundreds of thousands or millions of people are still--on the whole--alive. So is there anything you can produce to corroborate this credible report? Thanks in advance.

Cheers
Aj

[MsDemeanor]

Aj, this might be the source. As best I can tell, folks are taking a local news story and weaving theories in to a new story.

linkyloo

[Toughy]

Aj.........there may be some credibility to crop damage, mind you I am saying may be.

go through the entire thing.....there is a UTube newscast from a local station about mysterious crop damage and dead birds....

http://s-data.current.com/1t0io4c#ixzz0s0PbLxgK

The thing I did not know about was the Air Force is spraying that crap........

http://s-data.current.com/news/92513...of-corexit.htm

[Andrew, Jr.]

On the news tonight, it was stated that the oil spill has leaked across all across the gulf states, and is in Louisiana's famous lake. Boaters are now pulling their sailboats and powerboats out of the water. There are 50 million migrating birds that are now disoriented due to the spill. BP is paying people to try to get some of the migrating birds to change their eating habits. This makes me sick. I hope and pray that BP goes bankrupt after all is said and done.

[dreadgeek]

Originally Posted by Toughy

awww come on..............just do it.........your head must need a little 'boom'...............

The crazy, it burns!!!

[SuperFemme]

please contact me via pm for photo's of me naked being doused with holy water.

have your credit card ready.

putting humpty dumpty back together again is not cheap.

praise farrah.

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by SuperFemme

please contact me via pm for photo's of me naked being doused with holy water.

have your credit card ready.

putting humpty dumpty back together again is not cheap.

praise farrah.

Damn, cards are tapped out!

LOL.... I have a bottle of holy water in my bathroom.... it just seemed right... Well, maybe it was about my childhood..... How I ever ended up with any kind of positive spiritual connection is beyond belief when I see things like this and remember the nuns and priests.

And for these nut-cakes to put crap out like this in the midst of such environmental horror is tooooooooooooooooo much!!! Put some energy in what we can do about it and prevent it!

UGA-DUGGGA-DOOOO!!!

[Corkey]

Dear Friend:



Thank you for writing to me about the BP oil spill. I will stand with the people of the Gulf Coast until they are made whole, and I appreciate your perspective as we continue to do everything we can to address this crisis.



The Gulf is one of the richest and most beautiful ecosystems on the planet. For centuries, its residents have enjoyed and made a living off the fish that swim in its waters and the wildlife that inhabit its shores. The Gulf is also the heartbeat of the region's economic life, and this oil spill has upended whole communities.



My Administration will continue to leverage every resource at our disposal to protect coastlines, to clean up the oil, to hold BP and other companies accountable for damages, to begin to restore the bounty and beauty of this region, and to aid the hardworking people of the Gulf as they rebuild their businesses and communities. For information about response efforts, available assistance, or how to help, please visit: www.WhiteHouse.gov/deepwater-bp-oil-spill. Individuals affected by the BP oil spill can also find resources by calling the United States Coast Guard at 1-800-280-7118, and small businesses can find support by calling 1-800-659-2955.



Thank you again for contacting me. I encourage you to visit WhiteHouse.gov to learn more about my Administration or to contact me in the future.



Sincerely,

Barack Obama

[Miss Scarlett]

Am wondering, afraid to hope, that this skimmer "A Whale" will be successful. Certainly cannot hurt to try. It's a bit annoying when someone offers a suggestion or assistance only to have the powers that be (whoever they appear to be at the moment - BP, Coast Guard...) decline, delay or whatever then turn around and tell the public they are doing everything they can....blah blah blah...

It's almost like BP is afraid someone other than BP might profit from this. I heard a joke somewhere way back when this disaster was new...the punchline of which (my paraphrase) was that BP issued an announcement that any oil washing up on beaches was the express property of BP and they would prosecute any who collected such oil...

[MsDemeanor]

Miss Scarlett, a lot of the crap BP has been pulling is to avoid fines and royalties. EPA fines are levied per barrel, so the more barrels documented, the higher the fine. Oil companies also pay the government for each barrel, so BP owes the US $ for all that oil in the water. This is why they've been using the dispersants, to break up the oil so that it can't be counted. Also why they've been underestimating the flow, refused to put cameras on the leak for the first few days, burning oil, etc. Using ships that collect the oil means that there's a count of # of barrels.

Another issue, strangely, is that there are clean water standards for water that is returned to the ocean. Now normally, this makes sense; you tell an industry that "the water must be this clean after you use it and dump it back in the ocean". In the case of oil, though, any clean is better than it was. Still, there are hoops that must be jumped and agreements that must be made before something like A Whale can be used. Mostly, though, it's just BP being supreme asshats who's priority is the $ and not the mess.