I Believe..

PapaC · 07-12-2010, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Massive

For starters english is a bastardised conglomeration of all the multiple nations who've either invaded or been invaded by english speaking people ...

I believe stating *any* language as a 'bastardized' version of any other language to be rude and repulsive.

bas·tard·ize (bstr-dz)
tr.v. bas·tard·ized, bas·tard·iz·ing, bas·tard·iz·es
1. To lower in quality or character; debase.
2. To declare or prove (someone) to be a bastard.
bastard·i·zation (-tr-d-zshn) n.

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Nations and cultures have invaded other nations and cultures for eons, and it's not just the english language that is a "conglomerate" of other languages.

Here's why I'm a little 'picky' on the word 'bastardization' when used to describe languages. I had someone of British/Anglo Saxon heritage tell me once that Portuguese was 'just a bastardized version of Spanish'. What ticked me off even more from that experience? She was a graduate student in linguistics. I felt because of her educational prowess I didn't have much to debate her on the issue.

Instead I walked away in disgust, felt like my culture was shat on by someone who wasn't even in a position to 'joke', 'comment', 'tease' in the same manner if say... an Spanish speaking person had said that to me (as least there would be a shared experience and history of the multitude of cultures/race that have attacked/settled in the Iberian Peninsula for well over a thousand years.)

I believe I'm not 'attacking' you personally Massive, and I hope this doesn't sound overly harsh. I'm presenting some historical context as to why.

I believe we should all take care about using a word like 'bastardization' when describing *any* language that is so heavily related to ones culture or race.

Thanks for understanding.

Apocalipstic · 07-12-2010, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by apocalipstic

I believe that the line between insane and co-artist is a fine one.

Thank you SuperFemme, I meant CON-artist...
though.....

Massive · 08-25-2010, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapaC

I believe stating *any* language as a 'bastardized' version of any other language to be rude and repulsive.

bas·tard·ize (bstr-dz)
tr.v. bas·tard·ized, bas·tard·iz·ing, bas·tard·iz·es
1. To lower in quality or character; debase.
2. To declare or prove (someone) to be a bastard.
bastard·i·zation (-tr-d-zshn) n.

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Nations and cultures have invaded other nations and cultures for eons, and it's not just the english language that is a "conglomerate" of other languages.

Here's why I'm a little 'picky' on the word 'bastardization' when used to describe languages. I had someone of British/Anglo Saxon heritage tell me once that Portuguese was 'just a bastardized version of Spanish'. What ticked me off even more from that experience? She was a graduate student in linguistics. I felt because of her educational prowess I didn't have much to debate her on the issue.

Instead I walked away in disgust, felt like my culture was shat on by someone who wasn't even in a position to 'joke', 'comment', 'tease' in the same manner if say... an Spanish speaking person had said that to me (as least there would be a shared experience and history of the multitude of cultures/race that have attacked/settled in the Iberian Peninsula for well over a thousand years.)

I believe I'm not 'attacking' you personally Massive, and I hope this doesn't sound overly harsh. I'm presenting some historical context as to why.

I believe we should all take care about using a word like 'bastardization' when describing *any* language that is so heavily related to ones culture or race.

Thanks for understanding.

I respect what you're saying, but I was talking about the language of my own culture, and country, the language that is spoken in the United Kingdom is a mixture of all the countries we've invaded and been invaded by since before we were a united kingdom, that was where my statement was coming from. I need to keep reminding myself that this is an american site again it seems.

Lillie · 08-26-2010, 08:03 AM

That this weekend in San Diego will be amazing..after enduring this ridiculously humid summer in AZ..the drop in temp/humidity will be a welcomed reflief

MsTinkerbelly · 08-26-2010, 10:09 AM

I believe that my Mom watches over me, and I believe I miss her more every day.

I believe I miss being able to pick up the telephone and hear her voice, or walk into her room and hug her for no reason at all.

I believe this pain will end....someday

JustLovelyJenn · 08-26-2010, 11:55 AM

I believe the fates are testing us and I believe that we will pass the test. Soon, we will be together for good. No more visits, just our family as one.

Abigail Crabby · 08-26-2010, 12:20 PM

Leigh · 08-26-2010, 12:21 PM

I believe that life is what you make of it, and I plan on making My life the best now and in the years to come!!!

SmoothButch · 09-19-2010, 07:54 PM

I believe I had a kick as* weekend.
A friend and I drove to Atlantic City and saw Shakira at the Taj Mahal. HOT is not even close to descrbing how slammin sexy Shakira is in person.... omg, I was in heaven watching her shake those hips and then some. LOVE

Sam · 10-14-2010, 06:16 PM

i believe that in 2 weeks i will be who i was meant to be 43 years ago

i believe that will make me happy, happier than i have ever been

i believe i let 2 of the best women walk out of my life over the past 10 years that meant more to me than i ever thought possible.

i believe in true friends, in which i only have a couple, cause i dont trust easily

Mister Bent · 10-14-2010, 07:03 PM

I'll have a cookie.

Corkey · 10-14-2010, 08:06 PM

I believe I'll have some sweet potato pie

Jet · 10-14-2010, 08:19 PM

I believe I'll stop taking T

Gemme · 10-14-2010, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corkey

I believe I'll have some sweet potato pie

I believe I like mine with whipped cream.

08-26-2010, 08:03 AM	#4
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