Gulf Oil Slick

Toughy · 07-13-2010, 10:50 AM

this video is about a month old and shows a crack in the sea bed floor close to the well head:

http://firedoglake.com/2010/06/18/br...floor-of-gulf/

Corkey · 07-13-2010, 01:38 PM

This isn't over by any stretch of the imagination. The scientists and engineers are going to have to find a solution.

AtLast · 07-13-2010, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toughy

this video is about a month old and shows a crack in the sea bed floor close to the well head:

http://firedoglake.com/2010/06/18/br...floor-of-gulf/

Yup, and this is exactly why I so agree with Obama doing anything and everything within his power as president to halt drilling right now. Even when unemployment is what it is and the economic recovery is at a snail's pace. Not to mention the mid-term elections are around the corner and the Dems could lose control in one or both houses of Congress.

I do feel badly for lost work and wages for rig employees, but, what is down there (and top-side on every off-shore rig) needs to be looked at.

Actually, the major oil corporations are not fighting this as they know damn well that this disaster could turn their industry as they know it on its head!

As much as I am discusted by BP and other oil giants, it is going to take them to develop sound contingency plans for spills and monitor every freakin' pipe under the Gulf... and all over the world.
Governments do not have that kind of cash.

Our (the US) getting to a point in which we can tell big oil to shove it is many, many, years and alternative feuls development away...

Toughy · 07-13-2010, 11:02 PM

there are two kinds of wells........production wells and drilling wells.......this works the same for land or water based oil rigs.

they bring in a drilling rig and drill the hole in the ground, temporarily cap the well head and that rig is moved from over the well to some other place some where else.......no oil sucking out of the ground...that would be a drilling well. The Deep Horizon is a drilling well......there was no oil being produced from that well. The explosion that started this happened when they were temporarily capping the well so the production rig could come in.

they then bring in a new platform rig, set it above the capped well head...........uncap the well head and start sucking the oil out......that would be the production well. The Deep Horizon was not/is not a production well.

The moratorium Obama wants is ONLY on drilling rigs.....it would not in any way shape or form affect the over 3000 production wells in the Gulf. All the oil that is currently being sucked up will still be sucked up.........nobody is losing their job with a drilling moratorium.

AtLast · 07-14-2010, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toughy

there are two kinds of wells........production wells and drilling wells.......this works the same for land or water based oil rigs.

they bring in a drilling rig and drill the hole in the ground, temporarily cap the well head and that rig is moved from over the well to some other place some where else.......no oil sucking out of the ground...that would be a drilling well. The Deep Horizon is a drilling well......there was no oil being produced from that well. The explosion that started this happened when they were temporarily capping the well so the production rig could come in.

they then bring in a new platform rig, set it above the capped well head...........uncap the well head and start sucking the oil out......that would be the production well. The Deep Horizon was not/is not a production well.

The moratorium Obama wants is ONLY on drilling rigs.....it would not in any way shape or form affect the over 3000 production wells in the Gulf. All the oil that is currently being sucked up will still be sucked up.........nobody is losing their job with a drilling moratorium.

Ah, Ha! Another piece of info that seems very lost with the GOP and rush! Also, am I correct in believing that many of the laid-off workers (from the wells actually under the moratorium) are getting some work in the clean-up efforts?

But, 'cept... all of the damn wells (and pipelines down under) out there worry me!

Toughy · 07-14-2010, 09:19 AM

I kind of really doubt any of those drillers are out of work.....I think it's only about 30-40 wells that are affected and there is always drilling work somewhere. They drill and cap wells all the time.

Who knows who BP is hiring for clean-up......those drillers make big ass bucks and I doubt BP is paying 30 or so bucks an hour to pick up tar balls and sludge............besides those drillers work for Haliburton and several other companies that do this kind of work all over the world.

JustBeingMe · 07-14-2010, 09:33 AM

I think BP should put out a huge reward for any NEW COLLEGE Engineers to develop something that will actually work to stop the darn oil from leaking. It's been months now, and nothing has done a darn thing. It's ruining the wildlife and creatures inhabiting the ocean. Hell they need to put all the fishing boats to work to help with the cleanup efforts along the shores too.

Glenn · 07-14-2010, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toughy

I kind of really doubt any of those drillers are out of work.....I think it's only about 30-40 wells that are affected and there is always drilling work somewhere. They drill and cap wells all the time.

Who knows who BP is hiring for clean-up......those drillers make big ass bucks and I doubt BP is paying 30 or so bucks an hour to pick up tar balls and sludge............besides those drillers work for Haliburton and several other companies that do this kind of work all over the world.

I can tell you who they're hiring. Fishermen and women and folks who badly need a job. But they are getting sick left and right and BP says it must be food poisoning on the internet. They refuse to offer folks masks and protective gear, and they also make them sign a health waiver so folks can't sue them. In some places a non-disclosure agreement so fplks can't tell anyone what they see.
axisoflogic.com/artman/publis
thinkprogress.org/2010/06/03/bp-contract-media

Oneida · 07-14-2010, 08:21 PM

http://www.gomr.mms.gov/homepg/lsesale/visual1.pdf

The above link is a lease/ sale map (pipelines). You can right click and zoom on an area to see the details of the lease blocks. This information is probably not too useful unless you know what you are looking at, except that it shows the areas of lease and how far out, etc.

http://www.offshore-mag.com/etc/medi...%20Map-ADs.pdf

This map is kinda useful as you can zoom in on specific regions. It shows gas pipelines, oil pipelines, oil fields and gas fields as well as identifying rigs. It is insane!

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Toughy Senior Member How Do You Identify?: pervert butch feminist woman Preferred Pronoun?: see above Relationship Status: independent entity Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Oakland Posts: 1,826 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 4,068 Thanked 7,654 Times in 1,523 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	there are two kinds of wells........production wells and drilling wells.......this works the same for land or water based oil rigs. they bring in a drilling rig and drill the hole in the ground, temporarily cap the well head and that rig is moved from over the well to some other place some where else.......no oil sucking out of the ground...that would be a drilling well. The Deep Horizon is a drilling well......there was no oil being produced from that well. The explosion that started this happened when they were temporarily capping the well so the production rig could come in. they then bring in a new platform rig, set it above the capped well head...........uncap the well head and start sucking the oil out......that would be the production well. The Deep Horizon was not/is not a production well. The moratorium Obama wants is ONLY on drilling rigs.....it would not in any way shape or form affect the over 3000 production wells in the Gulf. All the oil that is currently being sucked up will still be sucked up.........nobody is losing their job with a drilling moratorium. __________________ We are everywhere We are different I do not care if resistance is futile I will not assimilate www.butchfemmesocials.com/

07-14-2010, 09:19 AM	#6
Toughy Senior Member How Do You Identify?: pervert butch feminist woman Preferred Pronoun?: see above Relationship Status: independent entity Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Oakland Posts: 1,826 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 4,068 Thanked 7,654 Times in 1,523 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	I kind of really doubt any of those drillers are out of work.....I think it's only about 30-40 wells that are affected and there is always drilling work somewhere. They drill and cap wells all the time. Who knows who BP is hiring for clean-up......those drillers make big ass bucks and I doubt BP is paying 30 or so bucks an hour to pick up tar balls and sludge............besides those drillers work for Haliburton and several other companies that do this kind of work all over the world. __________________ We are everywhere We are different I do not care if resistance is futile I will not assimilate www.butchfemmesocials.com/

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Oneida Member How Do You Identify?: Free Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Eden Posts: 241 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 99 Thanked 268 Times in 100 Posts Rep Power: 142535	Some reference materials re: GoM rigs/pipelines http://www.gomr.mms.gov/homepg/lsesale/visual1.pdf The above link is a lease/ sale map (pipelines). You can right click and zoom on an area to see the details of the lease blocks. This information is probably not too useful unless you know what you are looking at, except that it shows the areas of lease and how far out, etc. http://www.offshore-mag.com/etc/medi...%20Map-ADs.pdf This map is kinda useful as you can zoom in on specific regions. It shows gas pipelines, oil pipelines, oil fields and gas fields as well as identifying rigs. It is insane!