Same-Sex Marriage Update

MsTinkerbelly · 12-02-2009, 03:17 PM

It failed to pass the Senate by quite a large margin.

PearlsNLace · 12-02-2009, 05:06 PM

OH, thats terribly disappointing. NY, Im really sorry to hear that.

Outlaw · 12-02-2009, 05:19 PM

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCFFxidhcy0"]YouTube- NYS Senator Diane Savino speaks on the Marriage Equality bill[/ame]

Rook · 12-02-2009, 05:19 PM

Now for washington D.C., the mayor keeps being positive about approving, supposedly....
but then new york said the same...

Cyclopea · 12-04-2009, 11:24 AM

Some pics from last night's rally in Union Square protesting the New York Marriage Equality vote. (from towleroad.com)

Here's one of the completely adorable actress Heather Matarazzo (Welcome to the Dollhouse) in front of what is arguably the funniest Marriage Equality protest sign evah ("We can't ALL marry Liza Minelli") lol.

Cyclopea · 12-04-2009, 11:47 AM

700+ Rallied for Marriage Equality in Trenton yesterday.
(photo from bluejersey.com)

Senator Lesniak assured the crowd that "this is not the New York legislature", and promised the Senate Judiciary Committee vote on the marriage bill on Monday, December 7.
A Senate floor debate is expected as soon as Thursday, December 10.

From Garden State Equality:

"If ever there was just one day in your life to take off from work to be part of history, this Monday, December 7th is that day.

This Monday in Trenton, the Senate Judiciary Committee holds a hearing and votes on the Marriage Equality Bill. Please do everything to be there. Join us Monday as 9:00 AM as the Trenton Marriott.

The hearing is at 1:00 PM this Monday, December 7th at the State House in Trenton. We all need to be there very early to get seats.

Garden State Equality asks you to meet us Monday at 9:00 AM at the Trenton Marriott, One West Lafayette Street for FREE breakfast and a key briefing, after which we will go to the hearing. Park at the Marriott Garage.

We need the most massive crowd ever. Right this moment, please forward this email to every supportive friend and colleague you have and to every blog and list serv of which you are a member. Questions? Steven Goldstein is at cell (917) 449-8918.

Thank you, the world's greatest activists, for getting us this far."

Cyclopea · 12-04-2009, 11:57 AM

(12-03) 14:52 PST Trenton, N.J. (AP) --

"Gay rights activists in New Jersey pressing lawmakers to approve a same-sex marriage law while there is still a governor in office who would sign it won assurances Thursday that the legislation would be posted for a vote.

Sen. Paul Sarlo, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said he would keep a promise to gay marriage proponents by posting the marriage equality act on Monday. But, he said he'd vote against the bill, underscoring the proposal's uncertain outcome.

Senate President Richard Codey said he'd bring the bill to the full Senate next Thursday — if it clears Judiciary.

A similar proposal was defeated in New York on Wednesday in an unexpectedly wide 24-38 Senate decision, eight votes shy of the 32 needed for passage. It had passed earlier in the Assembly, and Gov. David Paterson had pledged to support it.

The result in New York, where some Democrats saw the defeat as a betrayal, prompted Sen. Ray Lesniak, a Democratic co-sponsor of the New Jersey bill, to declare, "This is not the New York Legislature. The New York Legislature is dysfunctional. We're better than that."

Supporters of the New Jersey bill have ramped up pressure in recent weeks on officials who control the legislative agenda, as the term of Gov. Jon Corzine winds down. Corzine, who leaves office Jan. 19, has said he would sign a bill legalizing same-sex marriages; his successor, Gov.-elect Chris Christie, has said he would veto it.

"There are many ways to win marriage equality; certainly to win marriage equality legislatively — which is our goal and, indeed, our obsession, we have to win while Jon Corzine is governor," said Steven Goldstein, head of Garden State Equality, the state's largest and most visible gay rights group.

Legislative leaders in New Jersey have been reluctant to put the bill to a vote — thus forcing lawmakers to take a public stance on a complex moral issue — unless they are fairly certain it would pass.

The bill needs 21 votes in the Senate, and its prospects in the chamber remained uncertain Thursday.

"God be willing, we'll have 21 votes," Lesniak told scores of gay rights advocates who had assembled outside the Statehouse.

Len Deo, president of the conservative New Jersey Family Policy Council, said he'll continue to try to defeat the bill.

"Changing the definition of marriage is not like approving a budget," said Deo, who believes the issue is too weighty for lawmakers and ought to be put directly to voters.

Gay marriage opponents, including Orthodox Jews, also rallied outside the Statehouse on Thursday.

Both houses of the Legislature must pass the bill before it goes to the governor. The legislative session wraps up a week earlier.

New Jersey currently has a civil unions law, which gives gay couples the benefits of marriage but not the title. About 4,200 couples have entered into civil unions.

Gay rights advocates say the separate-but-equal status isn't enough. Opponents argue that marriage should remain between one man and one woman.

On Thursday, Assembly Speaker Joe Roberts, who has been waiting for the Senate to act first, said he strongly supports the marriage equality bill, "especially considering how our civil union law isn't even living up to the most modest of hopes and encourages unequal treatment of same-sex couples and their children."

Roberts said he would continue to discuss the issue with members of the Democratic majority caucus to gauge whether there are sufficient votes for it to pass.

Recent polls show New Jerseyans divided on the issue."

iamkeri1 · 12-04-2009, 11:11 PM

I continue to fail to understand why we have to pursue these remedies by law and by law suit. Call me stupid, but I do not understand and do not believe that I will ever understand, why our right to associate, marry, adopt, foster and any other free act of will protected under law for any citizen are not protected under law for us.

Below is the text of the 14th amendment to the United States Constitution,
passed in 1868. That's 18 68. IT clearly states all persons. To borrow from Soujourner Truth "Ain't I a person?"

Fourteenth Amendment - Rights Guaranteed Privileges and Immunities of Citizenship, Due Process and Equal Protection

Amendment Text | Annotations
Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

12-02-2009, 05:19 PM	#3
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12-02-2009, 05:19 PM	#4
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12-04-2009, 11:47 AM	#6
Cyclopea Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Lesbian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Exit Zero Posts: 1,267 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,694 Thanked 1,615 Times in 632 Posts Rep Power: 226200	on to New Jersey 700+ Rallied for Marriage Equality in Trenton yesterday. (photo from bluejersey.com) Senator Lesniak assured the crowd that "this is not the New York legislature", and promised the Senate Judiciary Committee vote on the marriage bill on Monday, December 7. A Senate floor debate is expected as soon as Thursday, December 10. From Garden State Equality: "If ever there was just one day in your life to take off from work to be part of history, this Monday, December 7th is that day. This Monday in Trenton, the Senate Judiciary Committee holds a hearing and votes on the Marriage Equality Bill. Please do everything to be there. Join us Monday as 9:00 AM as the Trenton Marriott. The hearing is at 1:00 PM this Monday, December 7th at the State House in Trenton. We all need to be there very early to get seats. Garden State Equality asks you to meet us Monday at 9:00 AM at the Trenton Marriott, One West Lafayette Street for FREE breakfast and a key briefing, after which we will go to the hearing. Park at the Marriott Garage. We need the most massive crowd ever. Right this moment, please forward this email to every supportive friend and colleague you have and to every blog and list serv of which you are a member. Questions? Steven Goldstein is at cell (917) 449-8918. Thank you, the world's greatest activists, for getting us this far."

12-04-2009, 11:57 AM	#7
Cyclopea Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Lesbian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Exit Zero Posts: 1,267 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,694 Thanked 1,615 Times in 632 Posts Rep Power: 226200	Good Luck New Jersey! (12-03) 14:52 PST Trenton, N.J. (AP) -- "Gay rights activists in New Jersey pressing lawmakers to approve a same-sex marriage law while there is still a governor in office who would sign it won assurances Thursday that the legislation would be posted for a vote. Sen. Paul Sarlo, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said he would keep a promise to gay marriage proponents by posting the marriage equality act on Monday. But, he said he'd vote against the bill, underscoring the proposal's uncertain outcome. Senate President Richard Codey said he'd bring the bill to the full Senate next Thursday — if it clears Judiciary. A similar proposal was defeated in New York on Wednesday in an unexpectedly wide 24-38 Senate decision, eight votes shy of the 32 needed for passage. It had passed earlier in the Assembly, and Gov. David Paterson had pledged to support it. The result in New York, where some Democrats saw the defeat as a betrayal, prompted Sen. Ray Lesniak, a Democratic co-sponsor of the New Jersey bill, to declare, "This is not the New York Legislature. The New York Legislature is dysfunctional. We're better than that." Supporters of the New Jersey bill have ramped up pressure in recent weeks on officials who control the legislative agenda, as the term of Gov. Jon Corzine winds down. Corzine, who leaves office Jan. 19, has said he would sign a bill legalizing same-sex marriages; his successor, Gov.-elect Chris Christie, has said he would veto it. "There are many ways to win marriage equality; certainly to win marriage equality legislatively — which is our goal and, indeed, our obsession, we have to win while Jon Corzine is governor," said Steven Goldstein, head of Garden State Equality, the state's largest and most visible gay rights group. Legislative leaders in New Jersey have been reluctant to put the bill to a vote — thus forcing lawmakers to take a public stance on a complex moral issue — unless they are fairly certain it would pass. The bill needs 21 votes in the Senate, and its prospects in the chamber remained uncertain Thursday. "God be willing, we'll have 21 votes," Lesniak told scores of gay rights advocates who had assembled outside the Statehouse. Len Deo, president of the conservative New Jersey Family Policy Council, said he'll continue to try to defeat the bill. "Changing the definition of marriage is not like approving a budget," said Deo, who believes the issue is too weighty for lawmakers and ought to be put directly to voters. Gay marriage opponents, including Orthodox Jews, also rallied outside the Statehouse on Thursday. Both houses of the Legislature must pass the bill before it goes to the governor. The legislative session wraps up a week earlier. New Jersey currently has a civil unions law, which gives gay couples the benefits of marriage but not the title. About 4,200 couples have entered into civil unions. Gay rights advocates say the separate-but-equal status isn't enough. Opponents argue that marriage should remain between one man and one woman. On Thursday, Assembly Speaker Joe Roberts, who has been waiting for the Senate to act first, said he strongly supports the marriage equality bill, "especially considering how our civil union law isn't even living up to the most modest of hopes and encourages unequal treatment of same-sex couples and their children." Roberts said he would continue to discuss the issue with members of the Democratic majority caucus to gauge whether there are sufficient votes for it to pass. Recent polls show New Jerseyans divided on the issue."

12-04-2009, 11:11 PM	#8
iamkeri1 Member How Do You Identify?: femme woman Preferred Pronoun?: she Relationship Status: solo Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 905 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 302 Thanked 2,153 Times in 659 Posts Rep Power: 16642920	I continue to fail to understand why we have to pursue these remedies by law and by law suit. Call me stupid, but I do not understand and do not believe that I will ever understand, why our right to associate, marry, adopt, foster and any other free act of will protected under law for any citizen are not protected under law for us. Below is the text of the 14th amendment to the United States Constitution, passed in 1868. That's 18 68. IT clearly states all persons. To borrow from Soujourner Truth "Ain't I a person?" Fourteenth Amendment - Rights Guaranteed Privileges and Immunities of Citizenship, Due Process and Equal Protection Amendment Text \| Annotations Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Last edited by iamkeri1; 12-04-2009 at 11:14 PM. Reason: typos

12-02-2009, 03:17 PM	#1
MsTinkerbelly Timed Out - TOS Drama How Do You Identify?: ... Preferred Pronoun?: ... Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ... Posts: 6,573 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 30,737 Thanked 22,901 Times in 5,017 Posts Rep Power: 0	It failed to pass the Senate by quite a large margin.

12-02-2009, 05:06 PM	#2
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12-04-2009, 11:24 AM	#5
Cyclopea Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Lesbian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Exit Zero Posts: 1,267 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,694 Thanked 1,615 Times in 632 Posts Rep Power: 226200	Some pics from last night's rally in Union Square protesting the New York Marriage Equality vote. (from towleroad.com) Here's one of the completely adorable actress Heather Matarazzo (Welcome to the Dollhouse) in front of what is arguably the funniest Marriage Equality protest sign evah ("We can't ALL marry Liza Minelli") lol.