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dark_crystal · 07-18-2010, 03:26 PM

we (the library) didn't have any of the "Stanwyck and Suspense" titles so i had to settle for plain old Stanwyck- specifically, The Lady Eve.
I thought the acting was really amazing right from the very first line- one second i was laughing up my sleeve at the hokiness of the "Amazon" set and the next thing i knew i was totally swept up in the story! And what an unusual story! The plot suprised me over and over.

i do not really find stanwyck beautiful, but in some scenes she was charming- esp. the one with her mirror and her narration of the scene behind her.

I also didn't like her wardrobe. I am assuming within the context of the time and place it was "the mode," will have to research. Shocked by the bare midriff at dinner!

Ways the plot surprised me: did not expect her to admit she was in love as quickly as she did, but it made sense once i realized the boat story was only half of what was going to happen.

Sir Alfred felt kinda shoehorned in...wish his existence had been foreshadowed in earlier dialogue...prolly it was but thos frames fell to editing

LOVE LOVE LOVE Pike, Sr. and was utterly charmed by the pre-party chaos at Pike Manor.

Also: "C'mon let's out on the feed bag"??? WIN

Was totally not expecting the wedding to actually happen, and then to happen uninterrupted. In the last couple of decades it has become a cliche for the wrong people to get to the altar and have the climax occur before the vows can be finished...SO sick of it

The sight gags are I guess the reason why Wikipeida and IMDB call this a "screwball romance," but to me they felt superflous...although i did like the "pull in your head, We're coming to a tunnel" sign

my overall impression was "WOW! Really original!" Two thumbs up!

Martina · 07-20-2010, 03:17 PM

i watched "Heaven Knows, Mr. Allison" night before last. i love Deborah Kerr. And Robert Mitchum. There are some sweet scenes. Directed by John Huston.

Jet · 07-20-2010, 03:25 PM

I'm done with classic movies for a time. I'm sick of them. Nobody really cares anyway and its a very select topic that few know about.

dark_crystal · 07-31-2010, 02:20 PM

Jezebel (Bette Davis, 1938)

IMDB Summary:

Set in antebellum New Orleans during the early 1850's, this film follows Julie Marsden through her quest for social redemption on her own terms. Julie is a beautiful and free spirited, rapacious Southern belle who is sure of herself and controlling of her fiancé Preston Dillard, a successful young banker. Julie's sensitive but domineering personality--she does not want so much to hurt as to assert her independence--forces a wedge between Preston and herself. To win him back, she plays North against South amid a deadly epidemic of yellow fever which claims a surprising victim.

Personal Impressions:

There is a scene about fifteen minutes in, at the dressmakers, where they get Jule (Davis) out of the white ballgown she's in fittings for and you see that she is sitting knees apart on a stool under a crinoline cage- that's a brilliant shot

the perv in me was turned on by this quote in the next scene:

"None of my business anyhow, but speaking abstractly, and nothing personal intended, your generation don't understand the darlings...Woman, sir, is a chalice-- a frail, delicate chalice to be cherished and protected, ..
..Think your father would have allowed the lady of his choice to come surging into his business?"

"What would he have done?"

"He'd have cut him a hickory and flailed the living daylights out of her, then helped put lard on her welts and bought her a diamond brooch- That's what he'dhave done, and she'd have loved it."

and my Axis 2 issues liked this:

"You're wrong. That dress could cause trouble. Folks would keenly resent you coming to the ball in it."
"They're petty and narrow-minded."
"They got rules, and they go by them, same as you and i."
"Do you prefer to go by your rules?"
"I always have, miss julie."
"Then I'm sorry I troubled you"

(i am totally into structure, rules, protocols, traditions. it is odd b/c i am seen (and see myself) as a non-conformist- but any refusal to conform to a particular set of guidelines can always be traced back to a conflict with a higher-level set that may or may not be self-constructed.)

Quibbly Quibbles:

the movie could have started when they got to Halcyon Plantation...everything that came before that is re-explained in the first plantation scene.

The mosquito bite that gave Preston yellow fever was the only mosquito bite in the movie...i wish a couple of other people could have been shown slapping mosquitos earlier in the film or mosquitos could have been mentioned in the dialogue somewhere...it just felt heavy-handed to me

dark_crystal · 08-08-2010, 05:33 PM

OMG Alice Swallow, Dr. Huxley's fiancee- entire Women's Studies Masters' Theses could be written about THAT dynamic, despite it's being barely hinted at and the character disappearing. i guess she has to be unsympathetic or she wouldn't "deserve" the jilting that is so clearly in store...

My first impression of Susan was that she was so cool and collected!...it was not until she lost the back of her skirt that she came across as "harebrained"

-they say Twiggy started the too-skinny look that created our (my) body dysphoria- but Kate is making me hate my thighs and this is decades earlier....please tell me she was considered too scrawny for beauty?

i must note that slapstick usually leaves me cold and pretty irritated but so far this is ok...

they should re-make this movie with Parker Posey and...a Wilson brother? Luke?

and then there's this:

[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A8U6aUPW48"]YouTube- ‪Bringing Up Baby - "Gay All of a Sudden"‬&lrm;[/nomedia]

were you allowed to say "gay" in 1938?!!! i personally, having the perfect Baptist childhood, got in trouble for saying "gay" as recently as 1982!

aaaaaaaaaaand the second leopard was my slapstick limit. After that i was watching it just to finish.

Jet · 11-13-2010, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dark_crystal

we (the library)
I also didn't like her wardrobe. I am assuming within the context of the time and place it was "the mode," will have to research. Shocked by the bare midriff at dinner!

Well... kind of like Dorothy Lamour's sarong in her movies. That tropical garb was really big in the 30s and 40s. Speaking of Dorothy Lamour, see John Ford's The Hurricane if you can. Amazing effects for 1937 and a great movie. Takes place in Taihiti.

Jet · 11-23-2010, 07:36 PM

Good night Scout, good night Jem.
—Atticus

MaggieBluIze · 11-26-2010, 01:36 PM

Enjoyed twice this week ... God bless my beautiful daughter turning me onto the older films that I would have never even thought to watch ... What a joy this one is.

Tess · 12-15-2010, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet

Good night Scout, good night Jem.
—Atticus

Great choice Jet,

This is one of my very favorite movies of all times, always makes me cry.(f)

Jet · 11-26-2010, 07:24 PM

Cavett and Hitch....
I saw this in the 70s and it was one of the best interviews ever.
Not only was Hitchcock a genius on so many levels and he had a wicked sense of humor.

In this segment Hitch talks about his brilliant special effects in Foreign Correspondant (4:00 in) and Psycho and a great story around 6:00 in.

This excerpt includes a story behind Lifeboat and Hitch appearing in his movies (5:00 in).

There's limited footage of the interview so enjoy.

Jet · 11-30-2010, 05:24 PM

Tess · 12-15-2010, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet

Yep...classy, elegant, simply Gorgeous and a pretty good actress too!

Tess · 12-15-2010, 10:39 PM

Saratoga Trunk.

Not a great movie but I love to watch it whenever I can. I guess it's because it stars two of my favorite actors Beautiful Ingrid Bergman and Goregous Gary Cooper, I just love the interactions between them in this movie I think its the only one they made together, too bad...

hope this link works..

.

http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/index/?cid=290807

Jet · 12-16-2010, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tess

Saratoga Trunk.

Not a great movie but I love to watch it whenever I can. I guess it's because it stars two of my favorite actors Beautiful Ingrid Bergman and Goregous Gary Cooper, I just love the interactions between them in this movie I think its the only one they made together, too bad...

hope this link works..

.

http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/index/?cid=290807

I've seen it, I think it's based Edna Ferber's novel. Could be mistaken. I'm not a big Gary Cooper fan, always found him stiff even in the Capra stuff.

dark_crystal · 12-20-2010, 05:07 PM

i just read this book:

i had no idea until i ordered it for the library that there was any connection between one of my favorite moves and my VERY favorite kids' books!!! Cept now i am dying to watch the Eloise movies and they are all checked out

Jet · 12-07-2010, 11:46 PM

One of my favorites is Dorothy Malone.
Known for dramas and big technicolor melodramas like Lana Turner in the 1950s.

Well...this is Dorothy early on in The Big Sleep with Bogart and Bacall.

and then va va va voooom...

Dorothy Malone at the height of her career after winning an Oscar
for Best Supporting Actress in Written on The Wind
in 1956 with Rock Hudson, Robert Stack and Lauren Bacall.

|

I've been watching Dorothy Malone films all night on TCM and thought I'd pay a little tribute.

Jet · 01-22-2011, 01:07 PM

Judy Garland

A Star is Born

Summer Stock

Jet · 01-20-2014, 11:14 PM

I'm bumping this thread after creating it more than three years ago. Please see OP. And feel free to post on American film and British film classics which dominated Hollywood's studio era and post-studio, 30s through 70s. Mainstream films.

My latest view is Madame Bovary (1949 version) which belongs in this thread.

Jet · 01-22-2014, 03:32 PM

Scarlet Street, 1945 on tap for tonight with Edward G. Robinson. I'd have to say All My Sons, written by Arthur Miller, is a favorite in my top 10 of all time from Robinson and Burt Lancaster. Watched El Cid, 1961, which Martin Scorsese calls "one of the great epics of all time." Big epic, big color, photography and story and big stars of its time with Charlton Heston and Sophia Loren. Haven't seen it in years and it does a while to get through it.

homoe · 01-24-2016, 11:50 PM

A Stolen Life (1946 Bette Davis)
All that Heaven Allows (1955 Rock Hudson)
Black Widow (1954 Van Heflin)
Crime of Passion (1957 Barbara Stanwyck)
East Side, West Side (1949 Barbara Stanwyck)
Harriet Craig (1950 Joan Crawford)
In Name Only (1939 Cary Grant)
In This Our Life (1942 Bette Davis)
Laura (1944 Gene Tierney)
Mildred Pierce (1945 Joan Crawford)
Shadow of a Doubt (1943 Joseph Cotton)
The Stranger (1946 Orson Wells

07-18-2010, 03:26 PM	#1
dark_crystal Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: jenny Preferred Pronoun?: babygirl Relationship Status: First Lady of the United SMH Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,445 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,532 Thanked 26,553 Times in 4,688 Posts Rep Power: 21474856	The Lady Eve. we (the library) didn't have any of the "Stanwyck and Suspense" titles so i had to settle for plain old Stanwyck- specifically, The Lady Eve. I thought the acting was really amazing right from the very first line- one second i was laughing up my sleeve at the hokiness of the "Amazon" set and the next thing i knew i was totally swept up in the story! And what an unusual story! The plot suprised me over and over. i do not really find stanwyck beautiful, but in some scenes she was charming- esp. the one with her mirror and her narration of the scene behind her. I also didn't like her wardrobe. I am assuming within the context of the time and place it was "the mode," will have to research. Shocked by the bare midriff at dinner! Ways the plot surprised me: did not expect her to admit she was in love as quickly as she did, but it made sense once i realized the boat story was only half of what was going to happen. Sir Alfred felt kinda shoehorned in...wish his existence had been foreshadowed in earlier dialogue...prolly it was but thos frames fell to editing LOVE LOVE LOVE Pike, Sr. and was utterly charmed by the pre-party chaos at Pike Manor. Also: "C'mon let's out on the feed bag"??? WIN Was totally not expecting the wedding to actually happen, and then to happen uninterrupted. In the last couple of decades it has become a cliche for the wrong people to get to the altar and have the climax occur before the vows can be finished...SO sick of it The sight gags are I guess the reason why Wikipeida and IMDB call this a "screwball romance," but to me they felt superflous...although i did like the "pull in your head, We're coming to a tunnel" sign my overall impression was "WOW! Really original!" Two thumbs up!

07-31-2010, 02:20 PM	#4
dark_crystal Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: jenny Preferred Pronoun?: babygirl Relationship Status: First Lady of the United SMH Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,445 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,532 Thanked 26,553 Times in 4,688 Posts Rep Power: 21474856	Jezebel (Bette Davis, 1938) Jezebel (Bette Davis, 1938) IMDB Summary: Set in antebellum New Orleans during the early 1850's, this film follows Julie Marsden through her quest for social redemption on her own terms. Julie is a beautiful and free spirited, rapacious Southern belle who is sure of herself and controlling of her fiancé Preston Dillard, a successful young banker. Julie's sensitive but domineering personality--she does not want so much to hurt as to assert her independence--forces a wedge between Preston and herself. To win him back, she plays North against South amid a deadly epidemic of yellow fever which claims a surprising victim. Personal Impressions: There is a scene about fifteen minutes in, at the dressmakers, where they get Jule (Davis) out of the white ballgown she's in fittings for and you see that she is sitting knees apart on a stool under a crinoline cage- that's a brilliant shot the perv in me was turned on by this quote in the next scene: "None of my business anyhow, but speaking abstractly, and nothing personal intended, your generation don't understand the darlings...Woman, sir, is a chalice-- a frail, delicate chalice to be cherished and protected, .. ..Think your father would have allowed the lady of his choice to come surging into his business?" "What would he have done?" "He'd have cut him a hickory and flailed the living daylights out of her, then helped put lard on her welts and bought her a diamond brooch- That's what he'dhave done, and she'd have loved it." and my Axis 2 issues liked this: "You're wrong. That dress could cause trouble. Folks would keenly resent you coming to the ball in it." "They're petty and narrow-minded." "They got rules, and they go by them, same as you and i." "Do you prefer to go by your rules?" "I always have, miss julie." "Then I'm sorry I troubled you" (i am totally into structure, rules, protocols, traditions. it is odd b/c i am seen (and see myself) as a non-conformist- but any refusal to conform to a particular set of guidelines can always be traced back to a conflict with a higher-level set that may or may not be self-constructed.) Quibbly Quibbles: the movie could have started when they got to Halcyon Plantation...everything that came before that is re-explained in the first plantation scene. The mosquito bite that gave Preston yellow fever was the only mosquito bite in the movie...i wish a couple of other people could have been shown slapping mosquitos earlier in the film or mosquitos could have been mentioned in the dialogue somewhere...it just felt heavy-handed to me

08-08-2010, 05:33 PM	#5
dark_crystal Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: jenny Preferred Pronoun?: babygirl Relationship Status: First Lady of the United SMH Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,445 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,532 Thanked 26,553 Times in 4,688 Posts Rep Power: 21474856	Bringing Up Baby, 1938 OMG Alice Swallow, Dr. Huxley's fiancee- entire Women's Studies Masters' Theses could be written about THAT dynamic, despite it's being barely hinted at and the character disappearing. i guess she has to be unsympathetic or she wouldn't "deserve" the jilting that is so clearly in store... My first impression of Susan was that she was so cool and collected!...it was not until she lost the back of her skirt that she came across as "harebrained" -they say Twiggy started the too-skinny look that created our (my) body dysphoria- but Kate is making me hate my thighs and this is decades earlier....please tell me she was considered too scrawny for beauty? i must note that slapstick usually leaves me cold and pretty irritated but so far this is ok... they should re-make this movie with Parker Posey and...a Wilson brother? Luke? and then there's this: [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A8U6aUPW48"]YouTube- ‪Bringing Up Baby - "Gay All of a Sudden"‬&lrm;[/nomedia] were you allowed to say "gay" in 1938?!!! i personally, having the perfect Baptist childhood, got in trouble for saying "gay" as recently as 1982! aaaaaaaaaaand the second leopard was my slapstick limit. After that i was watching it just to finish. __________________

11-26-2010, 01:36 PM	#8
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12-15-2010, 10:39 PM	#13
Tess Junior Member How Do You Identify?: femme Preferred Pronoun?: she Relationship Status: single Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: nyc Posts: 33 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 63 Thanked 36 Times in 11 Posts Rep Power: 698	Here's one not many people I know have ever watched. Saratoga Trunk. Not a great movie but I love to watch it whenever I can. I guess it's because it stars two of my favorite actors Beautiful Ingrid Bergman and Goregous Gary Cooper, I just love the interactions between them in this movie I think its the only one they made together, too bad... hope this link works.. . http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/index/?cid=290807 __________________ Tess

07-20-2010, 03:17 PM	#2
Martina Senior Member How Do You Identify?: * Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: * Posts: 4,999 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 13,409 Thanked 18,280 Times in 4,165 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	i watched "Heaven Knows, Mr. Allison" night before last. i love Deborah Kerr. And Robert Mitchum. There are some sweet scenes. Directed by John Huston.

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Jet Timed Out - TOS Drama How Do You Identify?: .. Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: .. Posts: 3,471 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 292 Thanked 2,647 Times in 1,293 Posts Rep Power: 0	I'm done with classic movies for a time. I'm sick of them. Nobody really cares anyway and its a very select topic that few know about.

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Jet Timed Out - TOS Drama How Do You Identify?: .. Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: .. Posts: 3,471 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 292 Thanked 2,647 Times in 1,293 Posts Rep Power: 0	Cavett and Hitch.... I saw this in the 70s and it was one of the best interviews ever. Not only was Hitchcock a genius on so many levels and he had a wicked sense of humor. In this segment Hitch talks about his brilliant special effects in Foreign Correspondant (4:00 in) and Psycho and a great story around 6:00 in. This excerpt includes a story behind Lifeboat and Hitch appearing in his movies (5:00 in). There's limited footage of the interview so enjoy.

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dark_crystal Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: jenny Preferred Pronoun?: babygirl Relationship Status: First Lady of the United SMH Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,445 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,532 Thanked 26,553 Times in 4,688 Posts Rep Power: 21474856	i just read this book: i had no idea until i ordered it for the library that there was any connection between one of my favorite moves and my VERY favorite kids' books!!! Cept now i am dying to watch the Eloise movies and they are all checked out __________________

12-07-2010, 11:46 PM	#16
Jet Timed Out - TOS Drama How Do You Identify?: .. Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: .. Posts: 3,471 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 292 Thanked 2,647 Times in 1,293 Posts Rep Power: 0	Dorothy Malone One of my favorites is Dorothy Malone. Known for dramas and big technicolor melodramas like Lana Turner in the 1950s. Well...this is Dorothy early on in The Big Sleep with Bogart and Bacall. and then va va va voooom... Dorothy Malone at the height of her career after winning an Oscar for Best Supporting Actress in Written on The Wind in 1956 with Rock Hudson, Robert Stack and Lauren Bacall. \| I've been watching Dorothy Malone films all night on TCM and thought I'd pay a little tribute. Last edited by Jet; 12-07-2010 at 11:49 PM.

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Jet Timed Out - TOS Drama How Do You Identify?: .. Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: .. Posts: 3,471 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 292 Thanked 2,647 Times in 1,293 Posts Rep Power: 0	I'm bumping this thread after creating it more than three years ago. Please see OP. And feel free to post on American film and British film classics which dominated Hollywood's studio era and post-studio, 30s through 70s. Mainstream films. My latest view is Madame Bovary (1949 version) which belongs in this thread.

01-22-2014, 03:32 PM	#19
Jet Timed Out - TOS Drama How Do You Identify?: .. Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: .. Posts: 3,471 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 292 Thanked 2,647 Times in 1,293 Posts Rep Power: 0	Scarlet Street, 1945 on tap for tonight with Edward G. Robinson. I'd have to say All My Sons, written by Arthur Miller, is a favorite in my top 10 of all time from Robinson and Burt Lancaster. Watched El Cid, 1961, which Martin Scorsese calls "one of the great epics of all time." Big epic, big color, photography and story and big stars of its time with Charlton Heston and Sophia Loren. Haven't seen it in years and it does a while to get through it.

01-24-2016, 11:50 PM	#20
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