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View Poll Results: what do you think about adding holidays to school calendars?
I think we need to be more inclusive and add other religious holidays 39 41.49%
I think we need to pare it down, we have too many 11 11.70%
I think we need to take all religious holidays out of public school calendars 27 28.72%
I don't care 17 18.09%
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Old 07-24-2010, 07:28 PM   #1
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I know very little about music making. I am tone deaf and when my daughter tried to teach me to read music, I had a melt down because I just could not get it. So, I have very little understanding of it

but

I know that the note is flat if played without it coming from the part of the person that most would call soul.

I also know that teachers ARE so busy that they have very little time for "extras" and I think we need to adjust priorities so that we value art and music and recreation and spirituality as important as math, reading, science, etc.

And I believe that there is a huge difference between teaching an introduction to religious diversity and promoting and recruiting children to follow A faith system.

I still believe that we could weave diversity in our classes somehow. If the education system does not, then we have an era of children who will grow up knowing how to balance a checkbook but not being able to appreciate the teller at the bank they frequent except as a worker bee and not as a person they are spiritually connected to...


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Teachers barely have time to teach the basics. Many schools have already cut out art, music and even recess because there's not enough time in the school day/week. I'd hate to see them have to try to work religion in there, too; plus, I don't agree with public schools being charged with teaching spirituality. I'd like to see music, art and recess brought back, if there was time. I think those are intrinsically more valuable and do not tread into the territory of what values may or may not be in the home (like religion does).
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Old 07-24-2010, 07:31 PM   #2
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Spirituality never stopped me from being kind, or respecting another person. It also never made a note of music. Humans do this, not spirit.
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*Spirituality* is subjective and personal and is best left to parents if they choose to impart a set of beliefs to their children--not the public school system.

Children should not have to be *taught* any set of imaginary beliefs that have been concocted throughout the ages by a teacher in the public school system.

Among the MANY other problems, I can just imagine the child who is brought up in a house raised to believe that no god exists and how sitting through these classes would make them feel.

You want to raise accepting children who are aware of the diverse nature of people's beliefs or non-beliefs? Raise them that way.

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I did.


I stated my opinion and I dont feel like I need to defend it. We obviously disagree. I am ok with disagreeing with someone. Thank you for sharing your thoughts by responding to mine, and for keeping the discussion open to other people's opinions. I am going to move on now as I have nothing else to add to the discussion...


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*Spirituality* is subjective and personal and is best left to parents if they choose to impart a set of beliefs to their children--not the public school system.

Children should not have to be *taught* any set of imaginary beliefs that have been concocted throughout the ages by a teacher in the public school system.

Among the MANY other problems, I can just imagine the child who is brought up in a house raised to believe that no god exists and how sitting through these classes would make them feel.

You want to raise accepting children who are aware of the diverse nature of people's beliefs or non-beliefs? Raise them that way.
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*Spirituality* is subjective and personal and is best left to parents if they choose to impart a set of beliefs to their children--not the public school system.

Children should not have to be *taught* any set of imaginary beliefs that have been concocted throughout the ages by a teacher in the public school system.

Among the MANY other problems, I can just imagine the child who is brought up in a house raised to believe that no god exists and how sitting through these classes would make them feel.

You want to raise accepting children who are aware of the diverse nature of people's beliefs or non-beliefs? Raise them that way.

And children should not be taught the Earth is between 5,000 and 6,000 years old when education is at stake. I cannot imagine a child being taught to respect that belief.
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When I was in elementary school (waaaaay back in the 1960s) it was OK for kids who belonged to religions/faith whose religious holidays were not the standard (Christmas/Easter) to take those holidays from school as holidays/excused absences.
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There are many different definitions of spirituality and even more tenets on which spirituality is based. I don't know how it would be decided on which of these it "should" be based: (list borrowed, and these aren't even all of them):
Aboriginal Beliefs
African Diaspora
African Methodist Episcopal
African Religions
Afro-Brazilian
Afro-Caribbean
Agnosticism
Ahmadiyya Movement
Anglicanism
Asatru
Assemblies of God
Atheism
Bahai Faith
Baltic Religions
Baptist
Brahma Kumaris
Buddhism
Candomblé
Cao Dai
Calvinist
Catholics: Roman
Catholics: Eastern
Celtic Religions
Celtic Christianity
Ceremonial Magick
Children of God
Christadelphians
Christian Identity
Christian Science
Christianity: all
Christianity: Evangelical
Christianity: Traditional
Christianity: Progressive
Christianity: Catholic
Christianity: Orthodox
Church of Christ
Church of the Nazarene
Confucianism
Congregational Church
Dark Zen
Deism
Disciples of Christ
Divination
Divine Science
Druidry
Earth-Based Religions
Eastern Orthodoxy
Eastern Rite Catholics
Eckankar
Episcopal
Esoteric
Essenes
Ethical Culture
Falun Gong
First Nations
Folk Magic
Freemasons
Friends (Quakers)
Gnosticism
Greco-Roman
Hare Krishna
Heathens
Hellenismos
Hinduism
Humanism
I-Ching
Indigenous Beliefs
Islam
Jainism
Jedi
Jehovah's Witnesses
Judaism
Kemetic Religions
Latter-Day Saints
Lutheran
Maltheism
Mennonites
Messianic Judaism
Methodist
Metropolitan Community Church
Mormon LDS
Mormon non-LDS
Multifaith Forum
Nation of Islam
Native American
Neo-Pagan Spirituality
New Age
New Church
Noahide Movement
Non-denominational
New Thought
Paganism
Pantheism
Philosophy
Pentecostal Trinitarian
Pentecostal Oneness
Presbyterian
Quakers
Raelians
Rastafarians
Reconstructionists
Reformed
Religio Romana
Religious Science
Roman Catholics
Runes
Salvation Army
Sant Mat
Santerķa
Satanism
Science of Mind
Scientology
Scientology Freezone
Seventh-Day Adventists
Shamanism
Shinto
Sikhism
Slavic Religions
Society of Friends
Sufism
Swedenborgians
Taoism
Tarot
Umbanda
Unification Church
Unitarian Universalism
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I know very little about music making. I am tone deaf and when my daughter tried to teach me to read music, I had a melt down because I just could not get it. So, I have very little understanding of it

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I know that the note is flat if played without it coming from the part of the person that most would call soul.

I also know that teachers ARE so busy that they have very little time for "extras" and I think we need to adjust priorities so that we value art and music and recreation and spirituality as important as math, reading, science, etc.

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