Concealed weapons. Yes or No ???

Boots13 · 08-14-2010, 10:41 AM

Its a tough issue, really.

I dont want my rights limited. I want the option to carry (though surprisingly enough I dont) if and when I want to. I also want the public to have the means to protect themselves if and when a violent incident occurs.

And, I would rather know who is carrying by seeing it strapped in a retentive holster, rather than concealed under clothing or tucked in a waistband...

But Open Carry laws dont require a Concealed Permit.
You can strap it visibly to your hip, in a retentive holster, without concealing it and be protected under Open Carry with no training, certificationor license.

You must be 21
you cannot have been convicted of a felony, DV, addicted to drugs/alcohol or involuntarily committed to a mental institution.
there are a host of other "rules" one must follow.

And if you do have a permit, WA's Concealed Permit is recognized in these states : AK, AR, AZ, FL, ID, IN, KY, LA, MI, MS, MT, MO, NC, OH, OK, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, VT

And if youre a bad guy your going to carry no matter what, for whatever reason or intent you may have...

So I just have to assume that everyone is carrying.

Blade · 08-14-2010, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Boots13

Its a tough issue, really.

I dont want my rights limited. I want the option to carry (though surprisingly enough I dont) if and when I want to. I also want the public to have the means to protect themselves if and when a violent incident occurs.

And, I would rather know who is carrying by seeing it strapped in a retentive holster, rather than concealed under clothing or tucked in a waistband...

But Open Carry laws dont require a Concealed Permit.
You can strap it visibly to your hip, in a retentive holster, without concealing it and be protected under Open Carry with no training, certificationor license.

You must be 21
you cannot have been convicted of a felony, DV, addicted to drugs/alcohol or involuntarily committed to a mental institution.
there are a host of other "rules" one must follow.

And if you do have a permit, WA's Concealed Permit is recognized in these states : AK, AR, AZ, FL, ID, IN, KY, LA, MI, MS, MT, MO, NC, OH, OK, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, VT

And if youre a bad guy your going to carry no matter what, for whatever reason or intent you may have...

So I just have to assume that everyone is carrying.

Boots, isn't it true that although these states recognize CC not all states recognize each others CC permits. I'm thinking when a friend of mine got hers it didn't apply if she happened to be in SC or VA. I do see that SC isn't on your list so maybe it was just SC, not sure. Guess my question is for example if I have a CC permit in NC is it also applicable in the states you listed or does a person need one for each state they travel in?

BTW I agree we have to assume that everyone is armed

Soon · 08-14-2010, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Blade

BTW I agree we have to assume that everyone is armed

I think this is a sad way to live.

I cannot imagine walking around where I am from (Canada) assuming everyone is armed!

What a difference in countries.

So, when you are out and about, you presume everyone has a gun?

Doesn't that make for a fearful time outside of your own home? Anxiety much?

Blade · 08-14-2010, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow

I think this is a sad way to live.

I cannot imagine walking around where I am from (Canada) assuming everyone is armed!

What a difference in countries.

So, when you are out and about, you presume everyone has a gun?

Doesn't that make for a fearful time outside of your own home? Anxiety much?

I'm not assuming that everyone is armed with a firearm, Ma'am. However if you sit back and think about it most everyone is armed in some way. If you are assaulted in some way and need to protect yourself (all you's being general you) there are fingernails, keys, fingernail files, hairspray, pepper spray, ink pen, umbrella, glass bottle, coffee mug, and many more things that we carry with us daily. Not to mention our own fingers, feet, knees and voice. As a innocent person, or a person under attack you really are armed you just don't realize it. CC is to protect the honest person, not to give the honest person a free pass to shoot people.

And no I am not fearful outside of my own home. In this town most people are killed by people they know, are neighbors with or are kin to.

Boots13 · 08-14-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade

Boots, isn't it true that although these states recognize CC not all states recognize each others CC permits.

Yes, Blaze, you are correct. Not all states have reciprocity with concealed weapon permits. And for those who choose to travel with a weapon, know the laws of the states you are visiting, or traveling through.

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Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow

I think this is a sad way to live.

Doesn't that make for a fearful time outside of your own home? Anxiety much?

Assuming people are armed is not a hinderance to the quality of my life. I am fearful of drunk , buzzed and medicated drivers, and wish drug and alcohol laws were given more attention than gun control.

A drunk driver scares me a helluva lot more than a law abiding citizen, armed with a weapon.

Now if you want to talk bad guys who pack...no matter what law we institute or restriction we impose, do you really think they will obey it?

Soon · 08-14-2010, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Boots13

Assuming people are armed is not a hinderance to the quality of my life. I am fearful of drunk , buzzed and medicated drivers, and wish drug and alcohol laws were given more attention than gun control.

A drunk driver scares me a helluva lot more than a law abiding citizen, armed with a weapon.

Now if you want to talk bad guys who pack...no matter what law we institute or restriction we impose, do you really think they will obey it?

I'm glad it doesn't affect your quality of life.

For me, to presume/assume that everyone is walking around with an armed weapon, it would negatively affect my psyche as I went about my day; I am thankful that this doesn't cross my mind as I go about my day.

MsDemeanor · 08-14-2010, 01:29 PM

Utah offers a non-resident carry permit

that's recognized by something like 30 other states. You don't even have to go to Utah to get it!! It's all about the

they rake in.

Bard · 08-15-2010, 06:13 AM

When I am off duty and have my weapon it is carried so that it is hard to see Obviously when I am on duty it is in the holster on my hip. undercover it is a diffrent holster but still and you can be sure I have my shield with me at all times. We go to the range to qualify at least two times a year and I can tell you the standards are very high. about the only places I can not carry are in fedral building and NYC lol guess they don't think to much of us upstate local cops huh
if you are thinking of anytpe of firearm you should get safty training and know what it can do how to break it down and clean it ect there is a lot of responsiblity to owning a gun. I take it very seriously but by the same toen I will protect my family any way I have to. my daughter knows I have a gun she has never seen it and it is way out of her reach now my girl I have shown my off duty piece and I do plan on taking her to the range to have her familer with how it works after all I do work nights and have to live in the city at the moment

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Boots13 Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Preferred Pronoun?: She Relationship Status: No Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: PNW Posts: 823 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,387 Thanked 2,314 Times in 428 Posts Rep Power: 21474852	Concealed Permits are Far Reaching Its a tough issue, really. I dont want my rights limited. I want the option to carry (though surprisingly enough I dont) if and when I want to. I also want the public to have the means to protect themselves if and when a violent incident occurs. And, I would rather know who is carrying by seeing it strapped in a retentive holster, rather than concealed under clothing or tucked in a waistband... But Open Carry laws dont require a Concealed Permit. You can strap it visibly to your hip, in a retentive holster, without concealing it and be protected under Open Carry with no training, certificationor license. You must be 21 you cannot have been convicted of a felony, DV, addicted to drugs/alcohol or involuntarily committed to a mental institution. there are a host of other "rules" one must follow. And if you do have a permit, WA's Concealed Permit is recognized in these states : AK, AR, AZ, FL, ID, IN, KY, LA, MI, MS, MT, MO, NC, OH, OK, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, VT And if youre a bad guy your going to carry no matter what, for whatever reason or intent you may have... So I just have to assume that everyone is carrying.

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