Concealed weapons. Yes or No ???

Zora77 · 08-14-2010, 03:56 PM

After living in the U.S. since over 10 years and as a recently sworn in American citizen, reading discussions like this all the sudden make me feel like a foreigner again.

In international comparison the U.S. ranks #1 in firearm-related deaths (only closely followed by Brazil). I live in San Francisco and there not a week going by where I don't read about a shooting in the community. A horrific reality that for sure cannot be addressed by putting more firearms into peoples' hands.

It's sad that in this country people can get arrested for drinking a beer in public or exposing their boobs - but have the right to bare arms. An interesting concept of freedom.

Zora77 · 08-14-2010, 04:36 PM

Also, how about instead fighting for every American's right to have good education, a job, access to health care and healthy food? Something tells me a discussion on the 'right to bare arms' would not be as relevant if these issues would be resolved.

Oh my - this German/American has her undies in a twist over this topic

Corkey · 08-14-2010, 04:51 PM

My answer, yea, no.

Stearns · 08-14-2010, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Zora77

After living in the U.S. since over 10 years and as a recently sworn in American citizen, reading discussions like this all the sudden make me feel like a foreigner again.

In international comparison the U.S. ranks #1 in firearm-related deaths (only closely followed by Brazil). I live in San Francisco and there not a week going by where I don't read about a shooting in the community. A horrific reality that for sure cannot be addressed by putting more firearms into peoples' hands.

It's sad that in this country people can get arrested for drinking a beer in public or exposing their boobs - but have the right to bare arms. An interesting concept of freedom.

I thought only Michelle Obama had the right to 'bare arms'.

Zora77 · 08-14-2010, 06:39 PM

Haha - looks like I am a foreigner after all

I'm all for the right to bare boobs - how about that?? Oh wait, I'm in San Francisco - never mind.

MsDemeanor · 08-14-2010, 07:00 PM

How about this, then. Anyone can get a carry permit, and anyone who jumps the hoops can get a concealed carry permit. The day before the above laws go in to effect, however, another law must be in place - the minimum barrel length allowed on any weapon owned by any private citizen is 4 feet. Anyone caught in possession of a weapon shorter than that faces 6 months mandatory jail time.

Stearns · 08-14-2010, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MsDemeanor

Sure, go ahead, give everyone a carry permit. Let them stuff as many concealed guns down their jeans as it takes to make their dicks look nice and big.

Ban bullets instead.

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Originally Posted by MsDemeanor

How about this, then. Anyone can get a carry permit, and anyone who jumps the hoops can get a concealed carry permit. The day before the above laws go in to effect, however, another law must be in place - the minimum barrel length allowed on any weapon owned by any private citizen is 4 feet. Anyone caught in possession of a weapon shorter than that faces 6 months mandatory jail time.

That'd be a mighty long dick, for sure. Talk about having a third leg...

Waldo · 08-14-2010, 07:52 PM

Out of curiosity have any of you who have a concealed weapons permit and/or carry regularly had a gun pulled on / leveled at you?

afixer · 08-15-2010, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Waldo

Out of curiosity have any of you who have a concealed weapons permit and/or carry regularly had a gun pulled on / leveled at you?

yes I have...once.
I was robbed at the place I was working and I let them have what they came in for, money.
I had a pistol in my boot and could have shot the perp as he left. that is not why I carry though.
I carry when I feel the need, for my safety.

UofMfan · 08-14-2010, 07:59 PM

This conversation makes me physically ill. Seriously, I am not sure I can participate in it and maintain my sense of civility.

I thank those of you who are engaged and are expressing their thoughts, which I share, so nicely. You know who you are

Stearns · 08-14-2010, 08:14 PM

I think everyone wished we lived in a (much) less violent society, where there was no need to protect one's self in such a manner. Like Boots, I never carried off-duty b/c I didn't want to live that way. I still don't carry. However, if there was a specific potentially deadly/serious harm threat to me or my wife, I absolutely would. I wouldn't want that right taken away, until violent predators are themselves disarmed.

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Zora77 Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Queer Femme Preferred Pronoun?: She Join Date: May 2010 Location: San Francisco Posts: 58 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 72 Thanked 121 Times in 37 Posts Rep Power: 175636	After living in the U.S. since over 10 years and as a recently sworn in American citizen, reading discussions like this all the sudden make me feel like a foreigner again. In international comparison the U.S. ranks #1 in firearm-related deaths (only closely followed by Brazil). I live in San Francisco and there not a week going by where I don't read about a shooting in the community. A horrific reality that for sure cannot be addressed by putting more firearms into peoples' hands. It's sad that in this country people can get arrested for drinking a beer in public or exposing their boobs - but have the right to bare arms. An interesting concept of freedom.

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Zora77 Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Queer Femme Preferred Pronoun?: She Join Date: May 2010 Location: San Francisco Posts: 58 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 72 Thanked 121 Times in 37 Posts Rep Power: 175636	Also, how about instead fighting for every American's right to have good education, a job, access to health care and healthy food? Something tells me a discussion on the 'right to bare arms' would not be as relevant if these issues would be resolved. Oh my - this German/American has her undies in a twist over this topic

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Zora77 Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Queer Femme Preferred Pronoun?: She Join Date: May 2010 Location: San Francisco Posts: 58 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 72 Thanked 121 Times in 37 Posts Rep Power: 175636	Haha - looks like I am a foreigner after all I'm all for the right to bare boobs - how about that?? Oh wait, I'm in San Francisco - never mind.

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Stearns Member How Do You Identify?: Trans Man Preferred Pronoun?: He Relationship Status: Husband Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: 'nita land Posts: 272 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 385 Thanked 443 Times in 149 Posts Rep Power: 3640	I think everyone wished we lived in a (much) less violent society, where there was no need to protect one's self in such a manner. Like Boots, I never carried off-duty b/c I didn't want to live that way. I still don't carry. However, if there was a specific potentially deadly/serious harm threat to me or my wife, I absolutely would. I wouldn't want that right taken away, until violent predators are themselves disarmed.