MUSIC CENTRAL!!!

[Cyclopea]

Originally Posted by WILDCAT

WHAT ALL FEMALE band is considered to be the FIRST really true mainstream "hard rock" band?

Girlschool!!!
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i69l6xEjBnQ"]YouTube- JOHNNY TERRIS: GIRLSCHOOL GUITARIST KELLY JOHNSON TRIBUTE RIP[/ame]

[Medusa]

I've been listening to a lot of Angie Aparo lately

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbYMp8VgNc0"]YouTube- Angie Aparo - "Rocket Man" - Live at Room 5 Lounge[/ame]

[The_Lady_Snow]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz3DROS00k4&feature=PlayList&p=3BF138E8715 6E43B&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=65"]YouTube- Memoirs of a Geisha- Snow Dance[/ame]

[Scorp]

Here's what I'm listening to right now. Maybe this will catch my cat's attention from trying to climb the friggon Xmas tree....

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JWzGlkzpjA"]YouTube- Christmas Jingle Cats[/ame]

[The_Lady_Snow]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U087erSas2c&feature=related"]YouTube- Nara - ES Posthumus[/ame]

[WILDCAT]

WOOO-HOOOO! Who says ya can't have FUN when you get older!!!????

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYZkFOZoP-o"]YouTube- 91 yr. old female drummer - Allee Willis Presents "Hey Jerrie"[/ame]


*Allee Willis tribute...

[WILDCAT]

A woman sat down in a music store:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2vvse45Qyk"]YouTube- Female Drum Solo Sam Ash[/ame]


In my day, this would have been called "a happening" walking into this...



* I love it hearing the women cheer here...



WILDCAT

[Scorp]

Now, that's one cool, old lady! Awesome Wild!

Originally Posted by WILDCAT

WOOO-HOOOO! Who says ya can't have FUN when you get older!!!????

YouTube- 91 yr. old female drummer - Allee Willis Presents "Hey Jerrie"


*Allee Willis tribute...

[Diva]

Merry Christmas, Darling

The Carpenters


(I don't know how to post a song....sorry!)

[WILDCAT]

The children are our future...


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N3N1MlvVc4"]YouTube- Mad World - Gary Jules[/ame]

Snowy, I thought REM sang this version, and did not know that Tears for Fears did this originally, AND that this guy Jules really did this song - not REM. (Half the world got that wrong though, just punch it in by REM and this version/song comes up for them with this song title.)


Here's my favorite Tears for Fears song:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOA4ixV-3jU"]YouTube- Everybody Wants To Rule The World[/ame]

*I was always CONVINCED that this song had a dual meaning and ONE of them was about being queer and having to be in the closet. This is a beautiful song to me and had political relevance for it's time. (Well, much of their music did.)

WILD

[Selenay]

Why you at the bar if you ain't poppin the bottles?
What good is all the fame if you ain't fuckin the models?


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwuIIsDjgZg"]YouTube- Jenny Owen Youngs "Hot In Herre"[/ame]



So take it off like you're home alone,
You know dance in front your mirror while you're on the phone;
Checkin your reflection and tellin your best friend
Like, "Girl I think my butt's gettin big."

[WILDCAT]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FApakDW37BI"]YouTube- Black Sabbath - Laguna Sunrise[/ame]

[Bootboi]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg4T_B9D1TE"]YouTube- More than you'll ever know[/ame]

[WILDCAT]

Originally Posted by Cyclopea

Girlschool!!!
YouTube- JOHNNY TERRIS: GIRLSCHOOL GUITARIST KELLY JOHNSON TRIBUTE RIP

Nope!

This was an extremely good choice though. Very sad about the loss of Kelly Johnson, she was so good! And really ROCKED. But, I'm talking back further than this.

Think, "relative" to time periods too. For example, how we thought of Jimi ,The Who as being "hard rock", some of it is considered "pretty now" by some current standards.

Just like when Black Sabboth and Deep Purple came along, today some of "that" is very "beautiful"...

Seriously, this was the first all women's band accepted for major mainstream recording - a difficult pathway to establish for the time. They wrote their own music and all played there own instruments. And although there surely were other women's band's then playing rock, this was the first "hired" for recording.

Other all female bands were accepted for this band paving the way.

More clues lined up, but keep trying first. I gave a VERY good clue to start off with.


Sincerely!

WILDCAT

[Cyclopea]

Originally Posted by WILDCAT

Nope!

This was an extremely good choice though. Very sad about the loss of Kelly Johnson, she was so good! And really ROCKED. But, I'm talking back further than this.

Think, "relative" to time periods too. For example, how we thought of Jimi ,The Who as being "hard rock", some of it is considered "pretty now" by some current standards.

Just like when Black Sabboth and Deep Purple came along, today some of "that" is very "beautiful"...

Seriously, this was the first all women's band accepted for major mainstream recording - a difficult pathway to establish for the time. They wrote their own music and all played there own instruments. And although there surely were other women's band's then playing rock, this was the first "hired" for recording.

Other all female bands were accepted for this band paving the way.

More clues lined up, but keep trying first. I gave a VERY good clue to start off with.


Sincerely!

WILDCAT

Hmmmm.... I was thrown by your query about the first mainstream successful HARD rock band. Which I believe is Girlschool. The Runaways were later and not as successful. I believe one of the members of Girlschool (the drummer?) later joined the Go-Go's and after that played some lez festivals?
Unless you mean The Slits which were certainly HARD but considered more punk than rock.
Back further than Girlschool, and mainstream and popular? And HARD rock? And all-female? No one that I know of.

Now if we are talking about regular blues-based rock, history of rock and (non-hard) roll and all, then the first mainstream all-female rock band would probably be the GTO's.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCC0lihHBwQ"]YouTube- the GTOs (Girls Together Outrageously), 1969[/ame]

But I'm thinking you mean the Fannies. Blues based rock remarkable for existing in a man's world circa 1970 (or whenever). They rocked! In a 70's Tv friendly non- hard way! lol. But seriously, they totally rocked.

[Cyclopea]

OK they were FANNY, not "the fannies":
And they were damn cute.
They probably awakened a million girl's rock dreams on the Sonny and Cher show!
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9VM1rYcPGA"]YouTube- FANNY "Charity Ball" 1971[/ame]
Now, what do I win?

[Gemme]

Originally Posted by WILDCAT

Nope!

This was an extremely good choice though. Very sad about the loss of Kelly Johnson, she was so good! And really ROCKED. But, I'm talking back further than this.

Think, "relative" to time periods too. For example, how we thought of Jimi ,The Who as being "hard rock", some of it is considered "pretty now" by some current standards.

Just like when Black Sabboth and Deep Purple came along, today some of "that" is very "beautiful"...

Seriously, this was the first all women's band accepted for major mainstream recording - a difficult pathway to establish for the time. They wrote their own music and all played there own instruments. And although there surely were other women's band's then playing rock, this was the first "hired" for recording.

Other all female bands were accepted for this band paving the way.

More clues lined up, but keep trying first. I gave a VERY good clue to start off with.


Sincerely!

WILDCAT

Originally Posted by Cyclopea

Hmmmm.... I was thrown by your query about the first mainstream successful HARD rock band. Which I believe is Girlschool. The Runaways were later and not as successful. I believe one of the members of Girlschool (the drummer?) later joined the Go-Go's and after that played some lez festivals?
Unless you mean The Slits which were certainly HARD but considered more punk than rock.
Back further than Girlschool, and mainstream and popular? And HARD rock? And all-female? No one that I know of.

Now if we are talking about regular blues-based rock, history of rock and (non-hard) roll and all, then the first mainstream all-female rock band would probably be the GTO's.
YouTube- the GTOs (Girls Together Outrageously), 1969

But I'm thinking you mean the Fannies. Blues based rock remarkable for existing in a man's world circa 1970 (or whenever). They rocked! In a 70's Tv friendly non- hard way! lol. But seriously, they totally rocked.

I'm getting a history lesson in music with you two!

My first instinct was to say Vixen, who came way after these women mentioned.

[Cyclopea]

Originally Posted by Gemme

I'm getting a history lesson in music with you two!

My first instinct was to say Vixen, who came way after these women mentioned.

Thanks Gemme!
Here's an oldie fer ya:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN-nJld8czw"]YouTube- The Slits - So Tough[/ame]

[WILDCAT]

Originally Posted by Cyclopea

Hmmmm.... I was thrown by your query about the first mainstream successful HARD rock band. Which I believe is Girlschool. The Runaways were later and not as successful. I believe one of the members of Girlschool (the drummer?) later joined the Go-Go's and after that played some lez festivals?
Unless you mean The Slits which were certainly HARD but considered more punk than rock.
Back further than Girlschool, and mainstream and popular? And HARD rock? And all-female? No one that I know of.

Now if we are talking about regular blues-based rock, history of rock and (non-hard) roll and all, then the first mainstream all-female rock band would probably be the GTO's.
YouTube- the GTOs (Girls Together Outrageously), 1969

But I'm thinking you mean the Fannies. Blues based rock remarkable for existing in a man's world circa 1970 (or whenever). They rocked! In a 70's Tv friendly non- hard way! lol. But seriously, they totally rocked.

Another good choice here with the "GTO's", but the key was "major recording labels". Back in the day there were only a few of them - ya got in, or ya "didn't"! One gal from this band here [you posted] was a nanny to Frank Zappa kids, and I'm sure that HE was considered an "independent" label then. So when these "girls" here from Haight Ashbury got bored, they did record one album... yes. Frank produced it. Actually, I can hear his "influence" in this one song you posted.

QUOTE BY DAVID BOWIE: (Rolling Stone magazine 12/99)

"One of the most important bands in American Rock has been buried without a trace. And that is Fanny. They were extraordinary. They wrote everything, they played like motherfuckers. They were colossal and wonderful, and nobody's ever mentioned them. They're as important as anyone's ever been, ever; it just wasn't their time. Revivify Fanny and I will feel that my work has been done."

Whoa.

Now, you were a little bad here by stating a couple different choices in one post. (i.e. Could be this one, but might be that one... lol!)

HOWEVER, YOU WIN THE PRIZE!!!!!!!!!!





Fanny recorded rock from 1970 - 1975. Sisters June and Jean Millington originally formed the band (called Wild Honey, pre-recording).

Bands and artists from that time period such as David Bowie, Deep Purple, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Rod Stewart, George Harrison, etc... all helped to promote them. They were blown away by them.

Warner Brothers record producer (of artists like Leo Sayer, Carly Simon, Barbra Steisand) was wanting an all women's rock band. He signed them under contract to WB's subsidiary "Reprise Records".

Prior to Fanny, NO all female band in any genre of music playing their own instruments and writing their own material had ever known true success.

Their 3rd album was recorded in the Beatle's Apple studio, (a now major label in itself, recording artists to follow such as Badfinger, etc...)

Fanny's one single "Young and Dumb" was banned by the BBC and they were banned from performing that at Albert Hall, for it was considered "too provocative".

After their Reprise contract was up, Fanny moved to Casablanca for their final recorded album. Popular 70's bands such as KISS, Village People, Donna Summers, etc... recorded for this label.

By them putting their foot in the door opened to artist like Joan Jett, etc...

Here is a historical film recognizing them as "Women Legends In Music". The quality of the film is terrible, but bear past the first few minutes of sound in and out for the first song, and the "sound" at least does get better. It is rare footage and worth the historical significance IMO:.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWl5Rr0iIi8"]YouTube- FANNY "Legendary Ladies of Rock & Roll"[/ame]

Scorp, with all due respect, I think you will find this "sound" a bit more "hard rock" than the GTO's. Yes? I guess you could say this has a southern blues rock sound to it too... It's the guitar sound, the drumming and bit of belting it out at times in this genre - all not very "lady like" for the time that appalled folks. Literally. They were seen as "freaks" at first, but eventually fought through the harsh criticism to be accepted once people went to their concerts and saw them perform and felt their rock energy.

(Remember the "MONKEES" didn't even all play their own instruments!! Just a little more trivia here.)

They fought very hard to stay away from that "cutesy" feminine look and behavior that was expected of them - to be seen and respected as "musicians FIRST".

Regarding this Charity Ball hit (which I had the 45 record), can you BELIEVE what CHER SAYS AT THE END OF THIS?!! I bet she would take this back in a heartbeat today!! Kind of funny now though...


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTA0PHkZbt0"]YouTube- Charity Ball by rock group Fanny[/ame]

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NEW TRIVIA, but spin-off from this... (?) (Might as well keep doing your homework.) What very popular female vocalist [front woman] went on at this time to do her own solo "rock" career in the mainstream - who has a connection to this band? (No, not June Millington... we know where her shift in music went.)




WILDCAT

*Oh, someone to contact you soon regarding your prize!

**P.S. ETA, I don't know what that red symbol is in the topic/post title here, must have bumped something and not here in editing to delete. Disregard please. It looks like a "thumbs down". No, no, no... not at all - from me. K?!

[Joectigger]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFOzayDpWoI"]YouTube- Fiona Apple - Criminal[/ame]