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[WILDCAT]

Originally Posted by Cyclopea

Hmmmm.... I was thrown by your query about the first mainstream successful HARD rock band. Which I believe is Girlschool. The Runaways were later and not as successful. I believe one of the members of Girlschool (the drummer?) later joined the Go-Go's and after that played some lez festivals?
Unless you mean The Slits which were certainly HARD but considered more punk than rock.
Back further than Girlschool, and mainstream and popular? And HARD rock? And all-female? No one that I know of.

Now if we are talking about regular blues-based rock, history of rock and (non-hard) roll and all, then the first mainstream all-female rock band would probably be the GTO's.
YouTube- the GTOs (Girls Together Outrageously), 1969

But I'm thinking you mean the Fannies. Blues based rock remarkable for existing in a man's world circa 1970 (or whenever). They rocked! In a 70's Tv friendly non- hard way! lol. But seriously, they totally rocked.

Another good choice here with the "GTO's", but the key was "major recording labels". Back in the day there were only a few of them - ya got in, or ya "didn't"! One gal from this band here [you posted] was a nanny to Frank Zappa kids, and I'm sure that HE was considered an "independent" label then. So when these "girls" here from Haight Ashbury got bored, they did record one album... yes. Frank produced it. Actually, I can hear his "influence" in this one song you posted.

QUOTE BY DAVID BOWIE: (Rolling Stone magazine 12/99)

"One of the most important bands in American Rock has been buried without a trace. And that is Fanny. They were extraordinary. They wrote everything, they played like motherfuckers. They were colossal and wonderful, and nobody's ever mentioned them. They're as important as anyone's ever been, ever; it just wasn't their time. Revivify Fanny and I will feel that my work has been done."

Whoa.

Now, you were a little bad here by stating a couple different choices in one post. (i.e. Could be this one, but might be that one... lol!)

HOWEVER, YOU WIN THE PRIZE!!!!!!!!!!





Fanny recorded rock from 1970 - 1975. Sisters June and Jean Millington originally formed the band (called Wild Honey, pre-recording).

Bands and artists from that time period such as David Bowie, Deep Purple, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Rod Stewart, George Harrison, etc... all helped to promote them. They were blown away by them.

Warner Brothers record producer (of artists like Leo Sayer, Carly Simon, Barbra Steisand) was wanting an all women's rock band. He signed them under contract to WB's subsidiary "Reprise Records".

Prior to Fanny, NO all female band in any genre of music playing their own instruments and writing their own material had ever known true success.

Their 3rd album was recorded in the Beatle's Apple studio, (a now major label in itself, recording artists to follow such as Badfinger, etc...)

Fanny's one single "Young and Dumb" was banned by the BBC and they were banned from performing that at Albert Hall, for it was considered "too provocative".

After their Reprise contract was up, Fanny moved to Casablanca for their final recorded album. Popular 70's bands such as KISS, Village People, Donna Summers, etc... recorded for this label.

By them putting their foot in the door opened to artist like Joan Jett, etc...

Here is a historical film recognizing them as "Women Legends In Music". The quality of the film is terrible, but bear past the first few minutes of sound in and out for the first song, and the "sound" at least does get better. It is rare footage and worth the historical significance IMO:.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWl5Rr0iIi8"]YouTube- FANNY "Legendary Ladies of Rock & Roll"[/ame]

Scorp, with all due respect, I think you will find this "sound" a bit more "hard rock" than the GTO's. Yes? I guess you could say this has a southern blues rock sound to it too... It's the guitar sound, the drumming and bit of belting it out at times in this genre - all not very "lady like" for the time that appalled folks. Literally. They were seen as "freaks" at first, but eventually fought through the harsh criticism to be accepted once people went to their concerts and saw them perform and felt their rock energy.

(Remember the "MONKEES" didn't even all play their own instruments!! Just a little more trivia here.)

They fought very hard to stay away from that "cutesy" feminine look and behavior that was expected of them - to be seen and respected as "musicians FIRST".

Regarding this Charity Ball hit (which I had the 45 record), can you BELIEVE what CHER SAYS AT THE END OF THIS?!! I bet she would take this back in a heartbeat today!! Kind of funny now though...


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTA0PHkZbt0"]YouTube- Charity Ball by rock group Fanny[/ame]

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NEW TRIVIA, but spin-off from this... (?) (Might as well keep doing your homework.) What very popular female vocalist [front woman] went on at this time to do her own solo "rock" career in the mainstream - who has a connection to this band? (No, not June Millington... we know where her shift in music went.)




WILDCAT

*Oh, someone to contact you soon regarding your prize!

**P.S. ETA, I don't know what that red symbol is in the topic/post title here, must have bumped something and not here in editing to delete. Disregard please. It looks like a "thumbs down". No, no, no... not at all - from me. K?!

[Joectigger]

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[Gemme]

For those that remember the very first America's Got Talent, this is the winner, who was 9 at the time.

This song is pretty much my anthem.


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[Selenay]

He says he'll let go
If only I'd ask it of him

He says,
"Girl, it's your call.
You wanna fly?
You wanna fall?"

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7AgN8BECOY"]YouTube- Sia - Little black sandals[/ame]



So now I'm free
Free from the big bad giant
Who was stalking me
Thank you feet, for guiding me
I'm glad somehow I got brains down there, at least

These little black sandals
Are walking me away
These little black sandals
Are heading the right way

These little black sandals
Are walking me away
These little black sandals
Saved my life today

[Selenay]

I eat food to satisfy my hunger
I drink water to quench my thirst
I use my mouth and air to blow balloon up
I prick with pin to watch it burst
To make noise I use my breath
To unlock doors I use a key
When I'm looking for something I use my eyes
I use booze to unlock me

I wear shoes so I can run
As to avoid the broken glass
I wear the pants because they suit me
And to discourage the pinchin' of ass
I'll tell a joke to make you laugh
I'll close the door to have a cry
They say that change and pain is a positive thing
Have I changed since you died

Don't ask me why I smoke
(I don't know)
But I drink to get drunk

[weatherboi]

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[Scorp]

This is Travis Barker's remix and this version is major kick ass, because of the drums and guitar. I blast the shit out of this. The louder the better. As most folks know, those 2 instruments are close to my




[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg4kkP5YltI"]YouTube- Umbrella-Rihanna (Travis Barker) Remix video[/ame]:

[Cyclopea]

Originally Posted by WILDCAT

Another good choice here with the "GTO's", but the key was "major recording labels". Back in the day there were only a few of them - ya got in, or ya "didn't"! One gal from this band here [you posted] was a nanny to Frank Zappa kids, and I'm sure that HE was considered an "independent" label then. So when these "girls" here from Haight Ashbury got bored, they did record one album... yes. Frank produced it. Actually, I can hear his "influence" in this one song you posted.

QUOTE BY DAVID BOWIE: (Rolling Stone magazine 12/99)

"One of the most important bands in American Rock has been buried without a trace. And that is Fanny. They were extraordinary. They wrote everything, they played like motherfuckers. They were colossal and wonderful, and nobody's ever mentioned them. They're as important as anyone's ever been, ever; it just wasn't their time. Revivify Fanny and I will feel that my work has been done."

Whoa.

Now, you were a little bad here by stating a couple different choices in one post. (i.e. Could be this one, but might be that one... lol!)

HOWEVER, YOU WIN THE PRIZE!!!!!!!!!!





Fanny recorded rock from 1970 - 1975. Sisters June and Jean Millington originally formed the band (called Wild Honey, pre-recording).

Bands and artists from that time period such as David Bowie, Deep Purple, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Rod Stewart, George Harrison, etc... all helped to promote them. They were blown away by them.

Warner Brothers record producer (of artists like Leo Sayer, Carly Simon, Barbra Steisand) was wanting an all women's rock band. He signed them under contract to WB's subsidiary "Reprise Records".

Prior to Fanny, NO all female band in any genre of music playing their own instruments and writing their own material had ever known true success.

Their 3rd album was recorded in the Beatle's Apple studio, (a now major label in itself, recording artists to follow such as Badfinger, etc...)

Fanny's one single "Young and Dumb" was banned by the BBC and they were banned from performing that at Albert Hall, for it was considered "too provocative".

After their Reprise contract was up, Fanny moved to Casablanca for their final recorded album. Popular 70's bands such as KISS, Village People, Donna Summers, etc... recorded for this label.

By them putting their foot in the door opened to artist like Joan Jett, etc...

Here is a historical film recognizing them as "Women Legends In Music". The quality of the film is terrible, but bear past the first few minutes of sound in and out for the first song, and the "sound" at least does get better. It is rare footage and worth the historical significance IMO:.

YouTube- FANNY "Legendary Ladies of Rock & Roll"

Scorp, with all due respect, I think you will find this "sound" a bit more "hard rock" than the GTO's. Yes? I guess you could say this has a southern blues rock sound to it too... It's the guitar sound, the drumming and bit of belting it out at times in this genre - all not very "lady like" for the time that appalled folks. Literally. They were seen as "freaks" at first, but eventually fought through the harsh criticism to be accepted once people went to their concerts and saw them perform and felt their rock energy.

(Remember the "MONKEES" didn't even all play their own instruments!! Just a little more trivia here.)

They fought very hard to stay away from that "cutesy" feminine look and behavior that was expected of them - to be seen and respected as "musicians FIRST".

Regarding this Charity Ball hit (which I had the 45 record), can you BELIEVE what CHER SAYS AT THE END OF THIS?!! I bet she would take this back in a heartbeat today!! Kind of funny now though...


YouTube- Charity Ball by rock group Fanny

____

NEW TRIVIA, but spin-off from this... (?) (Might as well keep doing your homework.) What very popular female vocalist [front woman] went on at this time to do her own solo "rock" career in the mainstream - who has a connection to this band? (No, not June Millington... we know where her shift in music went.)




WILDCAT

*Oh, someone to contact you soon regarding your prize!

**P.S. ETA, I don't know what that red symbol is in the topic/post title here, must have bumped something and not here in editing to delete. Disregard please. It looks like a "thumbs down". No, no, no... not at all - from me. K?!

YAY I Won!!!
Yeah, our frames of reference for "hard rock" are very different. But thanks for the historic info, I had forgotten all about Fanny. That's so cool that you have one of their 45's. Have you ever had opportunity to listen to one of their albums? I haven't. Nor the GTO's.
One time years ago I spent hours sorting through boxes of "one-dollar" albums and found a mint copy of the GTOs. Unfortunately the jerk-off who owned the store decided to refuse to sell it to me because he "didn't realize he had it". Uh, yeah, that's what dollar boxes of records in used record stores are for, jackass, finding a gem. I never went back.
Hope he enjoyed his record. He lost a TON of business over it and must have pissed off a lot of collectors because he soon went out of business. The landlord kept his stock in leu of rent and probably sold it en mass at auction.
Bad karma!
So I get a Fanny album as a prize, right???
ha!

[The_Lady_Snow]

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[WILDCAT]

Originally Posted by Cyclopea

YAY I Won!!!
Yeah, our frames of reference for "hard rock" are very different. But thanks for the historic info, I had forgotten all about Fanny. That's so cool that you have one of their 45's. Have you ever had opportunity to listen to one of their albums? I haven't. Nor the GTO's.
One time years ago I spent hours sorting through boxes of "one-dollar" albums and found a mint copy of the GTOs. Unfortunately the jerk-off who owned the store decided to refuse to sell it to me because he "didn't realize he had it". Uh, yeah, that's what dollar boxes of records in used record stores are for, jackass, finding a gem. I never went back.
Hope he enjoyed his record. He lost a TON of business over it and must have pissed off a lot of collectors because he soon went out of business. The landlord kept his stock in leu of rent and probably sold it en mass at auction.
Bad karma!
So I get a Fanny album as a prize, right???
ha!

So, what is your "point of reference"? I suppose we all "categorize" in our own dividual ways. I started REALLY listening to music at age five. Which would be 1962. So, I initially listened to mostly '50's music then - some '40's I'm sure. And then followed right on through the 60's, 70's and into the early 80's - where I then took somewhat of a "hiatus".

But, during these decades there was soft rock, (pop), hard rock, southern rock, country rock, heavy metal rock, GRUNGE, and then what I refer to as the "Flocking Seagulls" electronic era moving in during the eighties.

From 1970 on things with regards to women rockers radically changed from year to year. Although there were front women rock singers, such as Janis Joplin and Gracie Slick in the 60's... which one was consider bluesy and the other psychedelic...

The band GTO's (to me) was way a head of it's time, but, reminds me of female valley girl music, with a light punk twist. But, if you had Zappa as your buddy and stayed with him... (?) Anything was possible. The band with Kelly Johnson you posted was incredible guitar rock, but you'll notice that in the video she has a "Heart" band t-shirt on. (I think that is what it is.)

Heart was popular from the mid-70's on... until folks had major issues with Ann Wilson's weight. (Marketing, promoting female sexuality.) Which was a fucking shame - with all of that talent. They actually turned to Nancy Wilson "sexually" during this time and they became corporate victims to what they believed in musically. (This they know and state themselves.)

Fanny was from '70 - '75. The "Runnaways were from '75 or so to 1980. Joan Jett broke off from that band and her song "I Love Rock and Roll", wasn't until maybe 1982. Now, folks think she was the first heavy female rocker. She wasn't. Yes, she was the bad "tough ass" here at this time, when in fact others paved the way. (In fact twenty-something record labels at this time for solo Joan even DECLINED to sign HER on... and thus the "Blackheart" label was born because of who she was close to.)

My last trivia question is a woman who was in the early 70's who I believe was an earlier style to Joan... (I cannot speak for Joan, who her immediate mentors were when she was just a teenager or whatever age...) But, the one I am referring to was accepted abroad WAY before she was accepted here. WE were just fucked up here regarding women "rockers". The "feminists" movement was ROUGH here with regards to music and rock. But, this woman finally got some hits here (more later 70's now), and became popular for "another reason"...

Then the "glamour" rock started in the late 70's too and there was already "disco". Although bands like the Stones and such were still around, and Bruce, etc... I did not follow THAT MUSIC through the second half of the '80's much. But, I was living in N.Y.C. then and really caught up just in city life and all that has to offer. (Broadway, obscure performances, street musicians (I LOVED), etc...)

Alternative rock became wide open too during this time. (Not that is wasn't ALWAYS around in some form or another.) Things just were so wide open in the late 80's musically, and now is to this day.
___

So, yes... I have "Mother's Pride" album by Fanny. (I think still.) You'll take that over the new hybrid car that you had won...?! OK! No problem!!


WILDCAT!



*P.S. Sorry I got Scorp and you mixed up here in two of my posts. Plus, that BITES you didn't get that historical album for a dollar. (What did you DO? Tell him it was valuable?! Or did he "catch it" when you went to buy it?)

**Plus, just saw today you have a music thread about chair dancing? I want to check that out!

[Cyclopea]

Originally Posted by WILDCAT

So, what is your "point of reference"? I suppose we all "categorize" in our own dividual ways. I started REALLY listening to music at age five. Which would be 1962. So, I initially listened to mostly '50's music then - some '40's I'm sure. And then followed right on through the 60's, 70's and into the early 80's - where I then took somewhat of a "hiatus".
I guess my point of reference for "hard rock" would begin with Sabbath, maybe Zeppelin...

But, during these decades there was soft rock, (pop), hard rock, southern rock, country rock, heavy metal rock, GRUNGE, and then what I refer to as the "Flocking Seagulls" electronic era moving in during the eighties.

From 1970 on things with regards to women rockers radically changed from year to year. Although there were front women rock singers, such as Janis Joplin and Gracie Slick in the 60's... which one was consider bluesy and the other psychedelic...

The band GTO's (to me) was way a head of it's time, but, reminds me of female valley girl music, with a light punk twist. But, if you had Zappa as your buddy and stayed with him... (?) Anything was possible. The band with Kelly Johnson you posted was incredible guitar rock, but you'll notice that in the video she has a "Heart" band t-shirt on. (I think that is what it is.)
Oh, I agree the GTO's were pretty talentless, but they did make a pretty big cultural impact at the time? But they were just Zappa groupies, for sure. Historically significant fluff.

Heart was popular from the mid-70's on... until folks had major issues with Ann Wilson's weight. (Marketing, promoting female sexuality.) Which was a fucking shame - with all of that talent. They actually turned to Nancy Wilson "sexually" during this time and they became corporate victims to what they believed in musically. (This they know and state themselves.)

Fanny was from '70 - '75. The "Runnaways were from '75 or so to 1980. Joan Jett broke off from that band and her song "I Love Rock and Roll", wasn't until maybe 1982. Now, folks think she was the first heavy female rocker. She wasn't. Yes, she was the bad "tough ass" here at this time, when in fact others paved the way. (In fact twenty-something record labels at this time for solo Joan even DECLINED to sign HER on... and thus the "Blackheart" label was born because of who she was close to.)
Girlschool predates the Runaways and was much more successful and well-known, probably in every country but the U.S.
They were serious players, wildly talented and had a long career playing stadiums. The reason Kelly Johnson was wearing a Heart Tshirt was because that video had excerpts from her entire 30 year career. GIRLSCHOOL ROCKS

My last trivia question is a woman who was in the early 70's who I believe was an earlier style to Joan... You don't mean Suzi Quatro do you? (I cannot speak for Joan, who her immediate mentors were when she was just a teenager or whatever age...) But, the one I am referring to was accepted abroad WAY before she was accepted here. WE were just fucked up here regarding women "rockers". So true! The "feminists" movement was ROUGH here with regards to music and rock. But, this woman finally got some hits here (more later 70's now), and became popular for "another reason"...

Then the "glamour" rock started in the late 70's too and there was already "disco". Although bands like the Stones and such were still around, and Bruce, etc... I did not follow THAT MUSIC through the second half of the '80's much. But, I was living in N.Y.C. then and really caught up just in city life and all that has to offer. (Broadway, obscure performances, street musicians (I LOVED), etc...)

Alternative rock became wide open too during this time. (Not that is wasn't ALWAYS around in some form or another.) Things just were so wide open in the late 80's musically, and now is to this day.
___

So, yes... I have "Mother's Pride" album by Fanny. (I think still.) You'll take that over the new hybrid car that you had won...?! OK! No problem!!
Ha- I'll sell the car and buy all the albums I want! *insert maniacal laugh smilie*


WILDCAT!



*P.S. Sorry I got Scorp and you mixed up here in two of my posts. Plus, that BITES you didn't get that historical album for a dollar. (What did you DO? Tell him it was valuable?! Or did he "catch it" when you went to buy it?)Lord no, I did not tell him it was a good find, he figured it out...bastid.

**Plus, just saw today you have a music thread about chair dancing? I want to check that out! Enjoy! It's a silly thread of fun (?) nonsense

Sorry it took so long for me to get back to your post I was offline for a few days...have a great evening.

[WILDCAT]

Yeah, there is a fine line in my mind, thinking back now between HARD ROCK and "HEAVY METAL/HARD ROCK".

I felt "at the time" that Black Sabbath and Deep Purple were heavy rock, heavy early metal - due to the heavy bass and lead guitar sounds. Like Iron Man and Smoke on the Water.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f7LwuVF8Oo"]YouTube- Deep Purple - Smoke On The Water w/ lyrics[/ame]

Heavy rock, was Led Zepplin and The Who... also because they did various styles of music as well. (And, like Ted Nudgent "hard" rock, Metallica = HEAVY METAL rock!!) Personal tastes for some, but they were categorized by music critics... having to come up with new descriptions, like "grunge rock".

But, really thinking back now, the first heavy rock for me was Grand Funk Railroad. I didn't consider it then, but heard it "first", before any of the others. I guess I just thought "wow, what the HELL is this music"?! I was really excited. I didn't know what it was called.

Three band members only and I never saw anyone again jam like that until ZZTOP came along later as a three piece gig. (Whole different style there, I know.) Again, everything happened boom, bang - so quick from year to year throughout the 70's.

Here is Grand Funk Railroad in '69!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x6chChxzV0"]YouTube- Grand Funk Railroad - Inside Looking Out 1969[/ame]

My brother had this album and I fed off of the drummer here first as rocking for myself. I loved their bass sound, very distinct. (I believe later someone here became just Grand Funk - and some bands went into a more commericial for the times sound, ex: Locomotion, We're an American Band by Grand Funk. NOT the same as their early stuff, which disbanded really - from the original sound anyway. They were advanced I believe to start off with.)

I'll have to read up on them more. It's been awhile. To see who went where. Everyone generally went somewhere. It's fascinating to me who is from earlier bands that we didn't know of. Like Graham Nash (of Crosby, Stills, and Nash - and later YOUNG), was really from the early Hollies group, David Crosby was for the Yardbirds: song Turn, Turn, Turn, Stephen Stills from early Buffalo Springfield.

Eric Clapton from Derrick and the Dominoes and Cream, (think I have these right) etc...
__

I agree the first all girl band is incredibly significant in the history of music. Just wasn't the rock question, first major label. (But, you knew that one too!) I also agree that GirlSchool rocked more heavily and that Kelly Johnson was ahead of her time women guitarist... more like a VanHalen-isque. I thought that clip was from the mid to late 70's though, for the haircut and Heart t-shirt, (where Heart hit their bomb in mid-70's). So, I would agree with you, probably the first hardest rock all female group.

Fanny just had it's own historical significance. And most don't know of them and somebody had to do it. They were treated like shit at first. And their hits were of the lighter rock, less HEAVY type of songs. That says something, doesn't it?

More to follow!

WILDCAT

*Sorry for typo's and all, up all night again!!

[WILDCAT]

GO GEORGE LOPEZ on "Lopez Tonight"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let me tell you, this night show is LONG overdue. Hey, we grew up with Johnny Carson owning late night TV - and then Dave L. and Jay L. (Goodness.) This new show is so biting and wild, HISTORY IN THE MAKING!!

And I'm always proud and amazed when the "art" community comes together for support. Every top musician, actor/actress, comedian, etc... IS COMPLETELY BACKING THIS SHOW!!

I feel very proud about it. We had Oprah for the daytime - which is so historical, and then that queer Ellen (also daytime), but George is at night. He has more freedom with the TBS channel than a "regular prime DAYtime" network... (and kudos to Turner for this). So he is also using this platform politcally, which I believe is a very necessary need, AND will help everyone all in all to be more tolerant!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8mZdSq4MTs"]YouTube- lowrider - W.A.R.[/ame]

Anyway, George has used this song as his theme song since opening night - and I think it is PERFECT!!!

The guy "George" too, (I think...?) running the show band, is the man who last worked with Michael Jackson for his show that he unfortunatly did NOT get to do. But, this man had worked with many famous singer/dancers. (I'm thinking J-Lo, etc... but, I could be wrong there.)

I probably shouldn't write things here without factual background, huh? BUT I LOVE GUESSING TO SEE IF I WAS RIGHT - with musical trivia. I am welcome always to stand corrected though! (And it's nice to know if my brain is working right at times!!)

ANYWAY, GO GEORGE!!!!
ROCK ON BRO!!!!!!!!

I'm serious, he is SO GOOD at this... and I'm loving a new "diversity" of audience!!!!!!!!!!! OMGoodness, so long over due!

WILD

*P.S. IMPORTANT: Obama backed George on this show promo and George is HOSTING the annual X-Mas show tonight for the White House. DARN COOL and special that is!!!!!!!! (Be there!!)

[WILDCAT]

I was WAY TOO "ROMANTIC", ahead of my time:

[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np5VvHx-1T4"]YouTube- I'M GONNA LOVE YOU, JUST A LITTLE MORE BABY - BARRY WHITE[/nomedia]

*I had this 45 record and played and played it, over and over - I'm so lucky my parents handled me like they did!


*WC

[Cyclopea]

Originally Posted by WILDCAT

Yeah, there is a fine line in my mind, thinking back now between HARD ROCK and "HEAVY METAL/HARD ROCK".

I felt "at the time" that Black Sabbath and Deep Purple were heavy rock, heavy early metal - due to the heavy bass and lead guitar sounds. Like Iron Man and Smoke on the Water.oh yeah, deep purple, for sure. always loved their version of "river deep, mountain high".

Heavy rock, was Led Zepplin and The Who... also because they did various styles of music as well. (And, like Ted Nudgent "hard" rock, Metallica = HEAVY METAL rock!!) Personal tastes for some, but they were categorized by music critics... having to come up with new descriptions, like "grunge rock".

But, really thinking back now, the first heavy rock for me was Grand Funk Railroad. I didn't consider it then, but heard it "first", before any of the others. I guess I just thought "wow, what the HELL is this music"?! I was really excited. I didn't know what it was called.
Cool. my first live concert in memory was blood, sweat and tears. and my mind was blown!
Three band members only and I never saw anyone again jam like that until ZZTOP came along later as a three piece gig. (Whole different style there, I know.) Again, everything happened boom, bang - so quick from year to year throughout the 70's.

Here is Grand Funk Railroad in '69!

My brother had this album and I fed off of the drummer here first as rocking for myself. I loved their bass sound, very distinct. (I believe later someone here became just Grand Funk - and some bands went into a more commericial for the times sound, ex: Locomotion, We're an American Band by Grand Funk. NOT the same as their early stuff, which disbanded really - from the original sound anyway. They were advanced I believe to start off with.)

I'll have to read up on them more. It's been awhile. To see who went where. Everyone generally went somewhere. It's fascinating to me who is from earlier bands that we didn't know of. Like Graham Nash (of Crosby, Stills, and Nash - and later YOUNG), was really from the early Hollies group, David Crosby was for the Yardbirds: song Turn, Turn, Turn, Stephen Stills from early Buffalo Springfield.

Eric Clapton from Derrick and the Dominoes and Cream, (think I have these right) etc...
__

I agree the first all girl band is incredibly significant in the history of music. Just wasn't the rock question, first major label. (But, you knew that one too!) I also agree that GirlSchool rocked more heavily and that Kelly Johnson was ahead of her time women guitarist... more like a VanHalen-isque. I thought that clip was from the mid to late 70's though, for the haircut and Heart t-shirt, (where Heart hit their bomb in mid-70's). So, I would agree with you, probably the first hardest rock all female group.

Fanny just had it's own historical significance. And most don't know of them and somebody had to do it. They were treated like shit at first. And their hits were of the lighter rock, less HEAVY type of songs. That says something, doesn't it?They are totally cool and slightly "before my time". So glad you posted about them!

More to follow!
Keep up the good work!

WILDCAT

*Sorry for typo's and all, up all night again!!

and me with no capitals! been in chat too long-lol.
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