Obama back on stride? Prelude to 2012, or just for Mid-Terms?

[Jess]

At Last,
I totally agree it has gotten really depressing to continue voting against something you feel strongly about instead of "for" a brilliant plan.

Thanks again for the thread!

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by Jess

At Last,
I totally agree it has gotten really depressing to continue voting against something you feel strongly about instead of "for" a brilliant plan.

Thanks again for the thread!

Yup, very sad. Right now, this seems to be the case and things that need to be dealt with are lost in this mess. I used to have respect for our political process, no longer true. Now, I do have a hard time believing that injustices will be corrected and we will see a thriving and open society.

[Rockinonahigh]

Im not to shure what I think cause so much has gone wishy washy,I understand the prez got a bag full more dirt than he bargained for when he took office,but the house and senate as well as anyone else needs to think of the country insted of being a party person red or blue.The big co's got bailed out and some have paid back the $$ some still working on it...the working class is strugeling to get by on what they can,the middle class is not doing as well as before,the rich may not be as rich as before but shure aint hurting as far as I see it.what craps me out is what he has done to the disabled ppl who arent geting the help they need cause of so many cut backs.Many states have cut back services for disabled to the point that you nearly have to be in dire need to get help for what you need..then it has to go thrue meeting after meeting to see whats going to happen...if it happends.Last year there was no cola for the disabled..it aint much when you get one but it helps..whats going to happen next year..who knows.Then there are the single ppl who cause they arent married with a family dont get the tax breaks on homes they are buying...its all crazy to me.

[AtLast]

Obama: Boehner has 'no new ideas'


http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz0zCMcVH7U


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/41901.html


By KENDRA MARR | 9/8/10 4:14 PM EDT


PARMA, Ohio – President Barack Obama, fighting to preserve his party’s control of Congress, laid out his battle plan on Wednesday, drawing sharp distinctions between his vision to rebuild the nation’s economy — and the struggling middle class — and Republican economic policies, which he said triggered last year’s financial meltdown.

“A lot has changed since I came here in those final days of the last election, but what hasn’t is the choice facing this country,” said Obama, speaking at Cuyahoga Community College, just outside of Cleveland. “It’s still fear versus hope; the past versus the future. It’s still a choice between sliding backward and moving forward. That’s what this election is about. That’s the choice you’ll face in November.”

In a speech billed as a rebuttal to House Minority Leader John Boehner’s Republican economic policy speech last month, Boehner became Obama’s main target. Calling him out eight times in his 45-minute address, Obama clarified what he was for and what “Mr. Boehner” and the GOP is against, including ending tax cuts for the nation’s top earners and closing loopholes that allow corporations to avoid paying taxes.

In a blunt critique to Boehner’s economic policy speech in Cleveland last month, the president declared, “There were no new policies from Mr. Boehner. There were no new ideas.”

Following the president’s remarks, Boehner issued a statement calling on Obama to “[freeze] all tax rates, coupled with cutting federal spending to where it was before all the bailouts, government takeovers, and ‘stimulus’ spending sprees.”

Though he was in Boehner’s home state, Obama spoke to a friendly audience, which rose to its feet and applauded him several times. Once they booed Boehner, and a few in the crowd shouted “no” in response to Obama’s assertion that Republicans would let insurance companies go back to denying care and allow credit card companies go back to unfairly raising interest rates on their customers.

If Democrats want to beat back widely anticipated Republican gains in November, it will be because of voters in places like this. Obama fired up his base in Cleveland’s Cuyahoga County in 2008, picking up 60,000 new Democratic votes. He’ll need them again for the 2010 midterms.

Touting his own economic plans, Obama alluded to three new proposals to jolt the struggling economy: a $50 billion federal investment to overhaul the nation’s railroads, highways and runways; a big tax break for businesses that conduct research and experimentation; and tax write-offs for companies’ expenditures on hiring, equipment and expansion.

Those measures carry a $180 billion price tag; Obama was careful to avoid calling it an economic stimulus plan, given the current national mood against government spending and the massive national debt. Republicans have nevertheless hammered the president, comparing his plan to the $814 billion emergency spending package he pushed through Congress last year – a measure the GOP leadership has declared a failure.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz0zCMx2yA6

[AtLast]

After the past week's Congressional antics on the bill with the repealing DADT, I am just furious with the Administration and many Democrats!

What I am really wondering about, however, is not Obama, himself, but his close advisors.

Any thoughts?

[Jess]

I thought that most of his advisors were selected by him? Am I off base with this?

I think it would be easy to look to the advisor's if he hadn't personally appointed them. I look at the credentials of most of his advisor's ( for example Elizabeth Warren new assistant with economic issues) and they seem to be very impressive, albeit I think mostly academic rather than " hand's on", as it were.

I tend to feel more strongly that his "party" is to blame for the very dissent that is going on within it's ranks. The people hired to make sure he won.
Too many election promises with no delivery.

I am very concerned that the more moderate democrats will swing away from "party politics" and unfortunately unless they are able to rally a strong voice of reason, pulling the more reasonable democrats together, there is little place else to go than to side with republicans. Here again, unfortunately "Republicans" are mostly associated with the McCains out there, ultra conservative God fearing bible thumping fear mongers whom still lead their constituents through means of pulling on their "christian" based views of right vs wrong, rather than on common sense and common welfare.

I am hoping to see more "common sense" politics and sense of fair play emerge. I wish we could take the best and the brightest of both parties, lose the extremists ( even though some extremists are indeed brilliant) and find a path our country can walk and thrive. Right now, I don't see either party being cohesive enough to be effective.

[betenoire]

Originally Posted by AtLastHome

After the past week's Congressional antics on the bill with the repealing DADT, I am just furious with the Administration and many Democrats!

What I am really wondering about, however, is not Obama, himself, but his close advisors.

Any thoughts?

I think it's bullshit that DADT is being put before congress at all. Obama PROMISED you that he would get rid of DADT. Obama has the power to just go ahead and end it with the executive order - so why the fuck doesn't he just go ahead and do that already?

[Nina]

I think there is some weird thing that happens to the (recent for sure) democratic presidents....once they get elected they seem to forget they are actually the President...they *can* do many of the things they promised...they can, and should, rally support for the issues we voted them in about...

I am sick of it...I have lost (what little) respect I had...

stop putting out the welcome mat for the next republican president and houses...it's shameful and scary and sad....

Fucking. Stand. Up !!

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by betenoire

I think it's bullshit that DADT is being put before congress at all. Obama PROMISED you that he would get rid of DADT. Obama has the power to just go ahead and end it with the executive order - so why the fuck doesn't he just go ahead and do that already?

Yup! And what is historically ironic is how DADT was put in place in the first place- Clinton made some promises too to get queer support in being elected! What we got was... DADT!!!