The Loft: Butches and Femmes in their 40s, 50s and over.

[lipstixgal]

Originally Posted by naturlover_52

I have osteoarthritis in most of my joints bit More so lately in my shoulders and My degenerating disk....I can empathize w/you Lipstix because of dealing w/ Pain. I lived IN alaska for about 7 years and that was a major reason for leaving...MY knees/back couldn;t take the cold anymore. I would like to live in a milder climate because of the fact I am a large woman and SUMMERS in the East San Gabriel Valley in SO. Cal get a BIT warm and 100+* temps at my size are HARD to handle

sooo understand

Thank you for understanding its too damn cold here in the winter in NJ that's one of the reasons for moving to a warmer climate, so its hot in Cali I didn't know that, I'm not small either but dieting so that helps when I follow it!!

[naturlover_52]

I am North west of Disneyland and about 30 miles EAST of Los Angeles....and a bit west of Riverside. OUT there it gets HOT. Where I am it just gets rather warm....IT can get up to about 107-115* here in the HOT months. That is part of the reason I am wanting to move say to some place Like San Jose or Eugene Oregon. I am about 285-290 lbs...SO I guess I am a big lady....

Best of luck in your search for a comfy place to live Temp wise

[waxnrope]

Originally Posted by lipstixgal

Thank you for understanding its too damn cold here in the winter in NJ that's one of the reasons for moving to a warmer climate, so its hot in Cali I didn't know that, I'm not small either but dieting so that helps when I follow it!!

Not all of Cali is hot, Lipstix. I was born and raised in L.A. Always hated summer. I have heat intolerance ... I've lived on the east coast and in Oregon. I live in the Bay Area now. There are microclimates here, with temperature differences as much as 15 or greater degrees.

In Oakland, where I live, there are fewer foggy days, lots of sunshine, and warmer temps as compared to San Francisco. It can get up to 90s, and just when I start to whine, the natural air conditioning - fog - comes rolling in and cools things down. The cycle goes three days of heat, then fog comes. Works great for me.

[lipstixgal]

Originally Posted by waxnrope

Not all of Cali is hot, Lipstix. I was born and raised in L.A. Always hated summer. I have heat intolerance ... I've lived on the east coast and in Oregon. I live in the Bay Area now. There are microclimates here, with temperature differences as much as 15 or greater degrees.

In Oakland, where I live, there are fewer foggy days, lots of sunshine, and warmer temps as compared to San Francisco. It can get up to 90s, and just when I start to whine, the natural air conditioning - fog - comes rolling in and cools things down. The cycle goes three days of heat, then fog comes. Works great for me.

California was on my list but its too expensive to live!! glad to hear that the temperatures are working for ya. Its getting colder in NOrthern NJ in the mornings but the afternoon temps are better with the nights getting cooler, oh well what can you do got live with it until I find a place that is warm and sunny all year round!!

[morningstar55]

mawning Kitchen junkies....

well what a morning I had.... lol
went for a power walk, grabed my coffee on the way bk to my truck, then checked my oil, had to walk bk to store, get oil, add to engin, then my oil cap fell under truck...*sigh* had to crawl under there to get it,, so ok im dirty now, walked bk to building to clean up, walking bk to truck, witnessd an old couple in there 70's hit a parked car in the parking lot .
and right in front of me so ran after them cuz they kept going.. *whewww*
ok now im off to head to my favorite art supply store here.. there is a new soul food restraunt next door , im thinking of getting something to go . and next to it is a chinese buffet. with a nice variety of SUSHI!! .. wow hard to decide.. lol
anyways........... ttfn

[Jet]

Hi all.
I think this is the first time I've been in here in over 30 days.
Everyone have a good weekend.

[lipstixgal]

Good afternoon lofters have a great weekend!!

[morningstar55]

mawning Lofters lol

its been a awsome crisp cool day here in Nashvegas.... but warming up ...
im about to hit the road.. have to be in Alliston On.. which is just north of Toronto by monday morning. soo will be driving most the day today.

anyways..... need to git here...... have a great weekend everyone.

[morningstar55]

afternooners lofters
ya know.... lately i dont know what it is..... but i been running to some butchs i find of interest only to find out they are into other butchs.....
and i dont know why ..... but when i see them all cooing over each other on each others profile.. on FB and such .... it well .... i just cant stand to see that.. and i get the hell out of there... even ones that are just friends...
hope this doesnt offend anyone here... on that subject.
im just a girl whom loves and is very into the Butch/femme dynamic big time.
I love my girly side and makeup and girly things... and my domesticated ways of taking care of my guy and our house hold...
but i guess to each there own..... heh

[Jude]

Morningstar, don't you think those are kind of role stereotypes? Jeez, you drive a big ass truck. Somebody might say that's not feminine, even if it's bedecked with flowers. In real life, how many people actually fit the mold? I agree, "each to their own"

[lipstixgal]

Good Evening Lofters how is everyone doing, its suppose to storm this evening yikes I don't like that at all!!

[naturlover_52]

Ummm Star....Yeah I am rather offended.....I am a softbutch/androgynous person who is ONLY into butches and androgy people. NOT into the whole femme thing.......sorry that is just me.....and yeah none of US as Jude put it.....Fits the Mold....I am into taking care of others. I am a MAJOR caretaker....Does that make me femme?? NOT sure....I LOVE flowers...Hate pink and purple......more into Light blues and Jades and that rubber ducky yellow color....I shop in the men's department...trying helplessly to wear my hair in a fohawk...but I am NOT good at it. Above all I am JUST me. a friend of mine calls me a Chapstick Lesbian

[Jude]

Originally Posted by morningstar55

afternooners lofters
ya know.... lately i dont know what it is..... but i been running to some butchs i find of interest only to find out they are into other butchs.....
and i dont know why ..... but when i see them all cooing over each other on each others profile.. on FB and such .... it well .... i just cant stand to see that.. and i get the hell out of there... even ones that are just friends...
hope this doesnt offend anyone here... on that subject.
im just a girl whom loves and is very into the Butch/femme dynamic big time.
I love my girly side and makeup and girly things... and my domesticated ways of taking care of my guy and our house hold...
but i guess to each there own..... heh

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Can this thread be turned into something affirmative?

One of the positive things about growing up (presuming everybody in this thread is a bon afide "grown up") is that we get to take a look at some of the roles we've been playing in life and recognize them as either useful or non productive.

Every one of us have both feminine and masculine aspects. All human beings are somewhat androgynous (gay or straight). How wonderful to be us and able to experience ourselves as we truly are and give full expression to the varied facets of ourselves.

As we mature, one of the bonuses in life is coming to the point where we don't really give a damn what anybody else thinks of us. I don't care what you think of me so long as my authenticity is expressed within my own demeanor.

We wasted a whole lot of time in our youth "giving a damn"

Just my thought.

Afterthought: I'd like to say that I am sooooooooooooooooooo pleased that I came upon Butch-Femme Planet. You've got some thoughtful, brilliant, intuitive people here that are hard to come by in the real world. My personal thanks to whomever came up with the idea and to those who moderate and subsidize it with their time and efforts. It's so nice to have a place to try out ideas (possibly try on different hats) and feel right at home. XXX to everybody here.

[miss entycing]

been around these threads for a long time both here and the dash site-
and *I've* never seen this particular thread anything less than affirmative

*I* still don't.

*I* also think the original post was nicely moderated- with tact, and grace.


life's too short to dwell... yanno?
my version of 'productive' may be your version of an idiot- so what?
our differences, and our versatility in an interconnecting space here
are what a community makes.
we are all fabulous, and perfectly flawed.... period.

so, moving on.....
good afternoon Lofter's!
hope everyone is having a delicious day thus far.

[JoSchmooze]

My thing is femmes....
Femmes in all shapes, sizes, short or tall....
Femmes with a sly sense of humor....
Femmes who don't mind a butch helping in the kitchen...
Femmes who like to have their butch open their doors....
Femmes who can dance a two step but who know when it's time
to sit down and take a bit of a rest....
Femmes who may be able to get me to do what I don't want to do.......
Femmes who are independent, those who know how to stand on their own two feet...
but who also lean a bit when they need to....
Femmes who can cock an eyebrow as if to say "oh no, you did not just say that".....
Femmes who also like butches!

Me likem Femmes......

[lipstixgal]

Good Afternoon lofters just watching Alive the movie where all those rugby players crashed in the Andes so sad only one med student to help those poor people!! Hope everyone is having a great day!!