The Reputation System - How, Exactly, Does it Work?

[Mister Bent]

Originally Posted by TeaPartyTart

In case anyone cares, I belong to the Barbie school of "Math is Hard!" (pout!). I appreciate the detailed explanation from both Linus and 'Dusa but please don't ask me to explain it back to anyone.

Personally I get a kick out of the comments on the repped posts. They make me feel like I'm not the only weirdo out there who has issues with stuff (like feet). Points aside, I love the love!

Tootles,
Tart

Me too. I could care less about points, but I like the clever, sweet, crazy shit people say in their reps. The "Thanks" falls flat to me.

Also, sometimes I worry that the "Thanks" can become sort of alienating, as when a bunch of people "Thank" a member after they take another to task. I don't know if I'm being very clear...but there's ust been something that's felt sort "off" about it to me from the get go.

(There are disapproving reps? Is that another paid option?)

[Linus]

Originally Posted by Mister Bent

Me too. I could care less about points, but I like the clever, sweet, crazy shit people say in their reps. The "Thanks" falls flat to me.

Also, sometimes I worry that the "Thanks" can become sort of alienating, as when a bunch of people "Thank" a member after they take another to task. I don't know if I'm being very clear...but there's ust been something that's felt sort "off" about it to me from the get go.

(There are disapproving reps? Is that another paid option?)

I'm very curious about the part that I've highlighted. Could you explain it using an imaginary example (you can use me as the "bad guy")? I never thought of this and want to get it clear in my head so I can understand where you're coming from.

As for disapproving reps, when you assign reps you have the option to choose "I Approve" or "I disapprove". The system defaults to the "I approve" and Medusa (correct me if I've misunderstood, bossy lady! ) has made that only available to mods and such to keep the site about supporting each other.

[Words]

I too have issues with the thanks system as is. And yes, I do think it has the potential to alienate.

Say two folks were discussing a 'hot' topic and I thanked one. It might be because I agree with them and appreciate their speaking up. It could also be, however, because I disagree with them but still appreciate their offering an alternative point of view. The problem is, the other person, who has no way of knowing why I am thanking them, could easily assume that I'm taking sides, which in turn could make them feel alienated.

Make sense?

Words

[NotAnAverageGuy]

No wonder when I hit 1,000 posts my rep went from 2 to 3

so basically it takes 100 rep points and thanks to get up to another rep power level


*puts out more cookies for admin and linus*

[Words]

Okay, so that I understand.

Thank you!

(And thanks Linus for mentioning that the negative feedback option doesn't actually exist...not being able to find it was driving me nuts)

[Mister Bent]

Originally Posted by Linus

I'm very curious about the part that I've highlighted. Could you explain it using an imaginary example (you can use me as the "bad guy")? I never thought of this and want to get it clear in my head so I can understand where you're coming from.

As for disapproving reps, when you assign reps you have the option to choose "I Approve" or "I disapprove". The system defaults to the "I approve" and Medusa (correct me if I've misunderstood, bossy lady! ) has made that only available to mods and such to keep the site about supporting each other.

Words described one relevant scenario.

Another might be when moderation occurs in a thread and one user is specifically targeted. While many may agree that it was necessary and want to support the mod's efforts, half a dozen people publicly "approving" of the moderation has the appearance of a dog pile. (I can PM you with an example of the sort of thing to which I refer.)

"Thanks" may show support and show appreciation for another's words, but isn't that why there are reps (and replies)?

It's not a huge deal, just something that's been niggling at me a bit, and that maybe deserves a little more consideration.

[Linus]

Originally Posted by Words

I too have issues with the thanks system as is. And yes, I do think it has the potential to alienate.

Say two folks were discussing a 'hot' topic and I thanked one. It might be because I agree with them and appreciate their speaking up. It could also be, however, because I disagree with them but still appreciate their offering an alternative point of view. The problem is, the other person, who has no way of knowing why I am thanking them, could easily assume that I'm taking sides, which in turn could make them feel alienated.

Make sense?

Words

It does make sense. But at the same time, I've seen people quote a whole post and say something like, "great post" at the end and that's it. Doesn't add much to the conversation (which is why I suggested this to Medusa -- kind of a way to alleviate those and hopefully encourage more discussion).

At the same time you could thank both for their posts at giving you alternate views of things, whether you agree or don't agree.

Originally Posted by Mister Bent

Words described one relevant scenario.

Another might be when moderation occurs in a thread and one user is specifically targeted. While many may agree that it was necessary and want to support the mod's efforts, half a dozen people publicly "approving" of the moderation has the appearance of a dog pile. (I can PM you with an example of the sort of thing to which I refer.)

"Thanks" may show support and show appreciation for another's words, but isn't that why there are reps (and replies)?

It's not a huge deal, just something that's been niggling at me a bit, and that maybe deserves a little more consideration.

Well, the concept of the "Thanks" button was to thank for information or providing a post that was useful. As I mentioned above, it was more to address those simple "thanks for a great post" responses that can appear after one post and nearly kill a discussion. I think the usage here is beyond that.

The "dog pile" affect (and I have seen those elsewhere) can even happen in replies. I actual detest that. Yes, sometimes we need to be reminded to play nice with each other (doesn't mean agree; just respectful) but everyone else continuing to echo it (kinda like kids in playground) is a bit much. Perhaps disabling for the mods and admin to avoid that effect?

This definitely gives me more food for thought as I never really realized that this was being used in that way. As much as I like it, I wonder if perhaps it would be better to remove it given that it may have an adverse effect (creating more divisiveness than supporting each other).

[NorCalStud]

The rep system. I thot it was only when you post a comment. Im gonna be honest. Thanks is cool...Rep is weird...just sayin.....it is oh like...well that will be all.

My question is thusly
...ever since I got timed out for a month...upon my return my scarlet rep is that I see a constant message on nearly everone's post..that says "you have zero rep and zero posts and you are not going to get to look at links . Now I dont care about reputation...not even a tiny eeny weeny bit but seeing a constant reminder is somewhat something....bottom line....Im okay with just logging in and connecting.

[Linus]

Originally Posted by NCS

The rep system. I thot it was only when you post a comment. Im gonna be honest. Thanks is cool...Rep is weird...just sayin.....it is oh like...well that will be all.

My question is thusly
...ever since I got timed out for a month...upon my return my scarlet rep is that I see a constant message on nearly everone's post..that says "you have zero rep and zero posts and you are not going to get to look at links . Now I dont care about reputation...not even a tiny eeny weeny bit but seeing a constant reminder is somewhat something....bottom line....Im okay with just logging in and connecting.

any chance you can get a screenshot and send it to me (syrlinus [at] gmail)? I'm not sure what you are seeing as rep shouldn't have been affected by your timeout.

[NorCalStud]

I went away and came back and it all looks good as far a zero rep and zero post etc. Now I believe, after a quick checking, problem solved Linus. Thankyou.