Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA)

Linus · 11-08-2009, 10:13 AM

It's interesting that as an adult educator transitioning on the job isn't an issue but I think those that do transition and are teachers for children face far more judgement of their "skill/ability" than adult educators. I think there is some kind of mythos where people believe the negative hype around trans individuals (e.g., mentally unstable, deviants, etc.)

They cannot see the separation of personal life from professional life in a school system. What is interesting about ENDA is that it does allow various institutions to be exempt (which will mean if your faith doesn't support LGBTQ individuals, you may not want to come out to them and, in fact, find work elsewhere if possible).

Good luck on Tuesday.

Thinker · 11-08-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Linus

It's interesting that as an adult educator transitioning on the job isn't an issue but I think those that do transition and are teachers for children face far more judgement of their "skill/ability" than adult educators. I think there is some kind of mythos where people believe the negative hype around trans individuals (e.g., mentally unstable, deviants, etc.)

Agreed.

It really is painfully frustrating to think about it. So much doesn't make sense about the thought processes, the reasoning (and lack of), and the reactions.

I believe that once we have those protections in place, we still have to look at an employer's responsibility in *not* disclosing certain information. So... I can see post-transition individuals being hired in K-12 education (and hopefully protected). However, I still think we are a long, long, long way away from K-12 educators being able to peacefully transition *on* the job.

Linus, does your employer have a non-discrimination policy in place that cites sexual orientation *and* gender identity?

Linus · 11-08-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinker

Agreed.

It really is painfully frustrating to think about it. So much doesn't make sense about the thought processes, the reasoning (and lack of), and the reactions.

I believe that once we have those protections in place, we still have to look at an employer's responsibility in *not* disclosing certain information. So... I can see post-transition individuals being hired in K-12 education (and hopefully protected). However, I still think we are a long, long, long way away from K-12 educators being able to peacefully transition *on* the job.

Linus, does your employer have a non-discrimination policy in place that cites sexual orientation *and* gender identity?

Actually, yes. The company is very sensitive and, although HR is slow at times, they are very supportive.

Thinker · 11-08-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Linus

Actually, yes. The company is very sensitive and, although HR is slow at times, they are very supportive.

That is so awesome! Great to hear!!

Thinker · 11-10-2009, 02:37 PM

This is such a great little article following last Thursday's Senate hearing and includes a 10-minute video from the hearing that features Sen. Franken.

It's good stuff!!!

http://www.bilerico.com/2009/11/week...earing_acc.php

Lady Jewel · 11-10-2009, 02:59 PM

Thinker, I live in Southern Nevada, and I am very fortunate that my employer does have a non-discrimination policy in regards to sexual orientation AND gender indentity

Jewel

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Originally Posted by Thinker

Agreed.

It really is painfully frustrating to think about it. So much doesn't make sense about the thought processes, the reasoning (and lack of), and the reactions.

I believe that once we have those protections in place, we still have to look at an employer's responsibility in *not* disclosing certain information. So... I can see post-transition individuals being hired in K-12 education (and hopefully protected). However, I still think we are a long, long, long way away from K-12 educators being able to peacefully transition *on* the job.

Linus, does your employer have a non-discrimination policy in place that cites sexual orientation *and* gender identity?

Thinker · 11-10-2009, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lady Jewel

Thinker, I live in Southern Nevada, and I am very fortunate that my employer does have a non-discrimination policy in regards to sexual orientation AND gender indentity

Jewel

Outstanding!

Thinker · 02-22-2010, 09:11 AM

Update...

http://lezgetreal.com/?p=26789

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