Seeking advice from the Butches...Please...

princessbelle · 09-19-2010, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sweetbutch26

i agree with stone. femmes are hard to spot. unless i'm hanging upside down from a tree and pounding my chest to see which ones run over to me i don't approach femmes in a public/straight forum. tried it once and got hit with a purse. which hurt like hell. which leads me to ask wtf do you femmes keep in those things? >_<

OMG do you seriously think we should tell you? Wouldn't that spoil the suspense? Should this have gone in the "answer a question with a question" annoying thread?

sweetbutch26 · 09-19-2010, 09:53 AM

GAH that just made me wonder more. i think you should have a weapons permit to carry a purse.

princessbelle · 09-19-2010, 10:00 AM

Maybe some of us do *smiles sweetly

KimKawashima · 09-19-2010, 10:51 AM

Really now, no one should be getting offended about anything out here in this realm. We are all posting about our own point of views and answering honestly as we perceive it. Honestly, their are stereotypes of some sort regardless of our individuality. If you can't embrace them and find humor in them and brush them off, perhaps you should crawl under a rock and stop visiting sites where real people have real opinions. I'm a Boi/Butch/Daddie/Master and I look like a Guy and act Masculine. My Femme is a Baby Girl/Femme/Slave. She acts like a Femme, looks like a Femme etc. No one would guess she is a Lesbian. Hence the Names we give ourselves, hence the Stereotypes otherwise their wouldn't be these labels, yes? Smile and be happy and get over it.

The_Lady_Snow · 09-19-2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KimKawashima

Really now, no one should be getting offended about anything out here in this realm. We are all posting about our own point of views and answering honestly as we perceive it. Honestly, their are stereotypes of some sort regardless of our individuality. If you can't embrace them and find humor in them and brush them off, perhaps you should crawl under a rock and stop visiting sites where real people have real opinions. I'm a Boi/Butch/Daddie/Master and I look like a Guy and act Masculine. My Femme is a Baby Girl/Femme/Slave. She acts like a Femme, looks like a Femme etc. No one would guess she is a Lesbian. Hence the Names we give ourselves, hence the Stereotypes otherwise their wouldn't be these labels, yes? Smile and be happy and get over it.

*s*

I am ok with calling out stereotypes.

I am not fond of sexism either and ok with calling that out as well.

KimKawashima · 09-19-2010, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

*s*

I am ok with calling out stereotypes.

I am not fond of sexism either and ok with calling that out as well.

That wasn't directed at anyone in particular. Just I have seen too much whining about "...don't use stereotypes, I'm offended..." So I was just nipping it in the butt before too much whining occurred. Whiners are one of my pet peeves. This entire site is full of so many different people and lets be honest, some of us can be lumped together under labels, but yes admittedly some of us can not be, we are exceptions to the rules and categories. I love all my brothers and sisters equally and enjoy all of our craziness and differences. Our lives are complicated enough and we don't need whiners and complainers to drag us down. So I was just making a point....If you can't stand the heat get the F out of the kitchen.

The_Lady_Snow · 09-19-2010, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by KimKawashima

That wasn't directed at anyone in particular. Just I have seen too much whining about "...don't use stereotypes, I'm offended..." So I was just nipping it in the butt before too much whining occurred. Whiners are one of my pet peeves. This entire site is full of so many different people and lets be honest, some of us can be lumped together under labels, but yes admittedly some of us can not be, we are exceptions to the rules and categories. I love all my brothers and sisters equally and enjoy all of our craziness and differences. Our lives are complicated enough and we don't need whiners and complainers to drag us down. So I was just making a point....If you can't stand the heat get the F out of the kitchen.

*s*

Good thing I never have liked the kitchen!!!

I am still ok with calling out stereotypes and pesky lil isms

Thanks for the dialogue

Mister Bent · 09-19-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by KimKawashima

That wasn't directed at anyone in particular. Just I have seen too much whining about "...don't use stereotypes, I'm offended..." So I was just nipping it in the butt before too much whining occurred. Whiners are one of my pet peeves. This entire site is full of so many different people and lets be honest, some of us can be lumped together under labels, but yes admittedly some of us can not be, we are exceptions to the rules and categories. I love all my brothers and sisters equally and enjoy all of our craziness and differences. Our lives are complicated enough and we don't need whiners and complainers to drag us down. So I was just making a point....If you can't stand the heat get the F out of the kitchen.

And you think calling people - other site members - "whiners" is the way to "nip something in the" bud? Interesting approach.

I'm just trying to follow the logic here, and wonder if you see any irony in attacking people who's pet peeve is stereotypes, while claiming the right to air your pet peeve.

I think it's safe to say, it's the "whiners and complainers" who have brought the heat, and we're firmly in the kitchen.

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Originally Posted by KimKawashima

I suppose you can slap another "label" on a word all you want but the action remains the some. So okay, my evolved word for "stereotype" is "label."

It may be your word, but you would be speaking a different language than most people. "Label" and "stereotype" aren't even in the same genus.

Mister Bent · 09-19-2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KimKawashima

Really now, no one should be getting offended about anything out here in this realm. We are all posting about our own point of views and answering honestly as we perceive it. Honestly, their are stereotypes of some sort regardless of our individuality. If you can't embrace them and find humor in them and brush them off, perhaps you should crawl under a rock and stop visiting sites where real people have real opinions. I'm a Boi/Butch/Daddie/Master and I look like a Guy and act Masculine. My Femme is a Baby Girl/Femme/Slave. She acts like a Femme, looks like a Femme etc. No one would guess she is a Lesbian. Hence the Names we give ourselves, hence the Stereotypes otherwise their wouldn't be these labels, yes? Smile and be happy and get over it.

The very notion that the people who spoke of their offense need to get a sense of humor is, in itself, hilarious, and also, a little offensive.

It's not about lacking a sense of humor, it's about not wanting to embrace degrading, old fashioned and absurd stereotypes of the people we are not. Accepting stereotypes isn't something anyone should have to sit comfortably with.

Stereotypes and labels are not the same thing. My "label" does not instantly attribute to me a plethora of behaviors or attributes that speak to who I am. If they do, then someone isn't paying attention.

Again, I suggest evolution, it's a remarkable tool.

KimKawashima · 09-19-2010, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mister Bent

The very notion that the people who spoke of their offense need to get a sense of humor is, in itself, hilarious, and also, a little offensive.

It's not about lacking a sense of humor, it's about not wanting to embrace degrading, old fashioned and absurd stereotypes of the people we are not. Accepting stereotypes isn't something anyone should have to sit comfortably with.

Stereotypes and labels are not the same thing. My "label" does not instantly attribute to me a plethora of behaviors or attributes that speak to who I am. If they do, then someone isn't paying attention.

Again, I suggest evolution, it's a remarkable tool.

I suppose you can slap another "label" on a word all you want but the action remains the some. So okay, my evolved word for "stereotype" is "label."

Blade · 09-19-2010, 09:57 AM

I seriously doubt a femme would hit one of us with her purse, we need to know what femmes keep in them cuz we would suspect straight women keep the same things in them. So umm like we know what we are up against when it hits our head.

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Originally Posted by princessbelle

OMG do you seriously think we should tell you? Wouldn't that spoil the suspense? Should this have gone in the "answer a question with a question" annoying thread?

sweetbutch26 · 09-19-2010, 10:00 AM

yea what he said

princessbelle · 09-19-2010, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Blade

I seriously doubt a femme would hit one of us with her purse, we need to know what femmes keep in them cuz we would suspect straight women keep the same things in them. So umm like we know what we are up against when it hits our head.

You don't need to know. It won't hurt any less....just embrace the moment

09-19-2010, 10:00 AM	#3
princessbelle Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: femme Preferred Pronoun?: femme ones Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,100 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 29,380 Thanked 30,496 Times in 5,198 Posts Rep Power: 21474858	*Maybe some of us do smiles sweetly** __________________ ~ I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. ~ Maya Angelou

09-19-2010, 09:53 AM	#2
sweetbutch26 Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Butch/stud/boi Preferred Pronoun?: mr/he :p Relationship Status: single Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Goldsboro NC Posts: 55 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 34 Thanked 66 Times in 27 Posts Rep Power: 1507	GAH that just made me wonder more. i think you should have a weapons permit to carry a purse.

09-19-2010, 10:51 AM	#4
KimKawashima Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Male Preferred Pronoun?: He Relationship Status: Taken Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Here Posts: 25 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 12 Thanked 57 Times in 16 Posts Rep Power: 215349	Really now, no one should be getting offended about anything out here in this realm. We are all posting about our own point of views and answering honestly as we perceive it. Honestly, their are stereotypes of some sort regardless of our individuality. If you can't embrace them and find humor in them and brush them off, perhaps you should crawl under a rock and stop visiting sites where real people have real opinions. I'm a Boi/Butch/Daddie/Master and I look like a Guy and act Masculine. My Femme is a Baby Girl/Femme/Slave. She acts like a Femme, looks like a Femme etc. No one would guess she is a Lesbian. Hence the Names we give ourselves, hence the Stereotypes otherwise their wouldn't be these labels, yes? Smile and be happy and get over it.