animal rescuers - resources - support

violaine · 12-11-2009, 12:26 AM

serious stuff.

here are some links for help with outlining a draft whenever a really awful shelter is not working at all in favour of the animals or even active within your community. often times, the community members-taxpayers- are the ones paying for shelter services. Some of the info is for the state of Indiana.

how well another shelter operates- i.e., a wonderful facility in another county for example, can be kept in mind for a draft/outline- but placing the focus on your county is critical. Once statistics are brought in, these will speak volumes for a comparison of just how well shelters can operate, and expenses even lowered by using volunteers, internet- petfinders, fundraising, linking with other shelters, rescue groups and so on [saving taxpayers money is a key point, again, as they are the people who pay for AC services if the shelter falls under a municipality].

*first off, ask yourself what the goal is you wish to achieve* & who all will be addressed, and also present to speak/contribute during any meetings with county commissioners?

find out the type of licensing for an animal control shelter:

https://extranet.in.gov/WebLookup/Search.aspx
[your state Gov- can then search facility by name]

if a facility has a S/N [spay/neuter] clinic and a vet[s] on board, there should be licensing. Shelters without S/N clinics, handling controlled substances such as those used for euthanasia, may be operating under a “limited permit”, and state codes explained in the link below:

http://www.in.gov/pla/2902.htm

application process for controlled substances, and what must be in place prior to approved licensing?

http://www.in.gov/icpr/webfile/formsdiv/52616.pdf
[if this link will not come up, it’s found under the limited permit info page]

http://www.purdue.edu/REM/eh/DEA.htm
[Additional info [for state of Indiana]

what are some of the controlled substances, and checking your state laws:

http://www.dar.uiuc.edu/faqs_controlled_drugs.htm

http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache...ol&hl=en&gl=us

Board of Pharmacy, may prescribes the controlled substances to a shelter under a controlled substance advisory committee:

http://www.in.gov/pla/3015.htm

any time a shelter is being investigated, say for unusually high eu rates, complaints, budget issues, et c., here’s how to use the FOIA [freedom of information act] obtain information from a shelter, such as statistics:

http://www.nathanwinograd.com/?p=1837
[go to bottom of page for sample request]

http://www.foiadvocates.com/howto.html

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/...ic=how_to_FOIA

*some questions to look at for submitting to the shelter, explained in the FOIA [freedom of information act] might very easily be found on the CSR [controlled substance release] form.

violaine · 12-11-2009, 09:09 PM

my neighbour is calling the cat, "baby". this cat is a mellow marshmellow. she rolls a lot = happyhappy. i think her eyes are sensitive to light, she's been declawed, and i'd guess her age to be round five or six. baby is cream and white with lemon eyes, and lovely. i bought her a cute collar, 4 catnip toys, litter, and i get food free from walmart [torn bags] for the humane society. i deliver the containers of cat/dog chow to a food pantry. baby has a good human in my neighbour, and an auntie belle

maybe anyone in need of cat/dog kibbles could also check with their local walmart - if the food has been picked up already, ask to which food pantry it was delivered.

hope you are all well.

NotAnAverageGuy · 12-12-2009, 12:34 AM

Belle,

remember I spoke with you about the problems here with BARC?

Below is a news link from our local paper, Houston hired a new chief at BARC, I am not sure if you are going to be able to read the comments but they are very harsh to say the least.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/6765474.html

NotAnAverageGuy · 12-13-2009, 11:03 PM

2 dog disease I hate most,

PARVO and Distemper

My best friend is going to have to put her almost 1 year old shih tzu down because of distemper. I know there is no cure and vaccines don't always help.

Why if they can cure certain diseases can't they cure these two?

Andrew, Jr. · 12-14-2009, 02:37 PM

Notanaverageguy,

I have no idea of why destemper and parvo are not curable yet. It just makes my heart melt when I see this. I have no clue as to why ppl won't get their pets vac. for these because of how horrible the disease itself is.

violaine · 12-14-2009, 03:35 PM

i read the article you posted on barc- and i really am hopeful some positive changes will transpire for houston animals with the new chief . i could not read the comments, although i would have been interested in community feedback.

on topic of diseases such as parvo and distemper, a site that's been round for quite a while:

http://www.vetinfo.com/dencyclopedia/deindex.html

hope you are all keeping well.

best,
belle

Kimbo · 12-14-2009, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NotAnAverageGuy

2 dog disease I hate most,

PARVO and Distemper

My best friend is going to have to put her almost 1 year old shih tzu down because of distemper. I know there is no cure and vaccines don't always help.

Why if they can cure certain diseases can't they cure these two?

Did the dog get vaccines? That is the best chance they have--I know they are not without error though.

I don't say this to be an ass but if she did not get the dog his basic shots,--and these 2 are contained in the basic puppy shots, then I would be really pissed at my friend for not being a responsible dog owner. Sorry but I'm an ass about this stuff. http://www.vetinfo.com/puppy-vaccines.html

--I'll never be as sweet as Belle!

Kimbo · 12-14-2009, 04:25 PM

I might add that both of those, distemper and parvo, are virus's like the flu. Just like the flu we need to get a shot every year to give us the best chance for not getting it but virus's are not cured in the human population.

Andrew, Jr. · 12-14-2009, 04:32 PM

Thanks for the info Kim. I didn't know they were virus's. That makes me even sadder for the pets.

Belle, I can't get into that link. Is it the right one or am I doing something wrong? Let me know. Thanks love.

Inuus · 12-14-2009, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimbo

Did the dog get vaccines? That is the best chance they have--I know they are not without error though.

I don't say this to be an ass but if she did not get the dog his basic shots,--and these 2 are contained in the basic puppy shots, then I would be really pissed at my friend for not being a responsible dog owner. Sorry but I'm an ass about this stuff. http://www.vetinfo.com/puppy-vaccines.html
--I'll never be as sweet as Belle!

OH I hear ya! I am an ass about that stuff as well. My friends all turn to me for advice about their dogs when they are sick or having training probs. I tell them right up front. You want me to help then you better be prepared for what I might say and I dont mix words!

One other thing that just chaps my ass is people who DONT get yearly heartworm checks and DONT use heartworm medicine ALL year long. Its an easily preventable disease with the monthly meds

NotAnAverageGuy · 12-14-2009, 05:44 PM

Yeah the dog had her shots but I know nothing is fool proof and vaccines are not a cure all.

12-11-2009, 12:26 AM	#1
violaine Timed Out How Do You Identify?: atypical Preferred Pronoun?: plague words and phrases Relationship Status: love wise guys of the avian world Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: wekiva springs basin Posts: 3,236 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 9,934 Thanked 3,293 Times in 1,301 Posts Rep Power: 0	plenty of info- serious stuff. here are some links for help with outlining a draft whenever a really awful shelter is not working at all in favour of the animals or even active within your community. often times, the community members-taxpayers- are the ones paying for shelter services. Some of the info is for the state of Indiana. how well another shelter operates- i.e., a wonderful facility in another county for example, can be kept in mind for a draft/outline- but placing the focus on your county is critical. Once statistics are brought in, these will speak volumes for a comparison of just how well shelters can operate, and expenses even lowered by using volunteers, internet- petfinders, fundraising, linking with other shelters, rescue groups and so on [saving taxpayers money is a key point, again, as they are the people who pay for AC services if the shelter falls under a municipality]. first off, ask yourself what the goal is you wish to achieve & who all will be addressed, and also present to speak/contribute during any meetings with county commissioners? find out the type of licensing for an animal control shelter: https://extranet.in.gov/WebLookup/Search.aspx [your state Gov- can then search facility by name] if a facility has a S/N [spay/neuter] clinic and a vet[s] on board, there should be licensing. Shelters without S/N clinics, handling controlled substances such as those used for euthanasia, may be operating under a “limited permit”, and state codes explained in the link below: http://www.in.gov/pla/2902.htm application process for controlled substances, and what must be in place prior to approved licensing? http://www.in.gov/icpr/webfile/formsdiv/52616.pdf [if this link will not come up, it’s found under the limited permit info page] http://www.purdue.edu/REM/eh/DEA.htm [Additional info [for state of Indiana] what are some of the controlled substances, and checking your state laws: http://www.dar.uiuc.edu/faqs_controlled_drugs.htm http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache...ol&hl=en&gl=us Board of Pharmacy, may prescribes the controlled substances to a shelter under a controlled substance advisory committee: http://www.in.gov/pla/3015.htm any time a shelter is being investigated, say for unusually high eu rates, complaints, budget issues, et c., here’s how to use the FOIA [freedom of information act] obtain information from a shelter, such as statistics: http://www.nathanwinograd.com/?p=1837 [go to bottom of page for sample request] http://www.foiadvocates.com/howto.html http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/...ic=how_to_FOIA some questions to look at for submitting to the shelter, explained in the FOIA [freedom of information act] might very easily be found on the CSR [controlled substance release] form. Last edited by violaine; 12-11-2009 at 12:45 AM.*

12-11-2009, 09:09 PM	#2
violaine Timed Out How Do You Identify?: atypical Preferred Pronoun?: plague words and phrases Relationship Status: love wise guys of the avian world Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: wekiva springs basin Posts: 3,236 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 9,934 Thanked 3,293 Times in 1,301 Posts Rep Power: 0	my neighbour is calling the cat, "baby". this cat is a mellow marshmellow. she rolls a lot = happyhappy. i think her eyes are sensitive to light, she's been declawed, and i'd guess her age to be round five or six. baby is cream and white with lemon eyes, and lovely. i bought her a cute collar, 4 catnip toys, litter, and i get food free from walmart [torn bags] for the humane society. i deliver the containers of cat/dog chow to a food pantry. baby has a good human in my neighbour, and an auntie belle maybe anyone in need of cat/dog kibbles could also check with their local walmart - if the food has been picked up already, ask to which food pantry it was delivered. hope you are all well.

12-12-2009, 12:34 AM	#3
NotAnAverageGuy Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Trans Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,723 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 109 Thanked 282 Times in 178 Posts Rep Power: 0	Belle, remember I spoke with you about the problems here with BARC? Below is a news link from our local paper, Houston hired a new chief at BARC, I am not sure if you are going to be able to read the comments but they are very harsh to say the least. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/6765474.html

12-13-2009, 11:03 PM	#4
NotAnAverageGuy Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Trans Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,723 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 109 Thanked 282 Times in 178 Posts Rep Power: 0	2 dog disease I hate most, PARVO and Distemper My best friend is going to have to put her almost 1 year old shih tzu down because of distemper. I know there is no cure and vaccines don't always help. Why if they can cure certain diseases can't they cure these two?

12-14-2009, 02:37 PM	#5
Andrew, Jr. Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Me Preferred Pronoun?: He Relationship Status: Unavailable Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Over the Rainbow in a House Posts: 5,072 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 16,004 Thanked 5,249 Times in 2,216 Posts Rep Power: 0	Notanaverageguy, I have no idea of why destemper and parvo are not curable yet. It just makes my heart melt when I see this. I have no clue as to why ppl won't get their pets vac. for these because of how horrible the disease itself is.

12-14-2009, 03:35 PM	#6
violaine Timed Out How Do You Identify?: atypical Preferred Pronoun?: plague words and phrases Relationship Status: love wise guys of the avian world Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: wekiva springs basin Posts: 3,236 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 9,934 Thanked 3,293 Times in 1,301 Posts Rep Power: 0	i read the article you posted on barc- and i really am hopeful some positive changes will transpire for houston animals with the new chief . i could not read the comments, although i would have been interested in community feedback. on topic of diseases such as parvo and distemper, a site that's been round for quite a while: http://www.vetinfo.com/dencyclopedia/deindex.html hope you are all keeping well. best, belle

12-14-2009, 04:25 PM	#8
Kimbo Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Relationship Status: Eligible Butchelor Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Seattle Posts: 591 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 432 Thanked 551 Times in 257 Posts Rep Power: 119	I might add that both of those, distemper and parvo, are virus's like the flu. Just like the flu we need to get a shot every year to give us the best chance for not getting it but virus's are not cured in the human population.

12-14-2009, 04:32 PM	#9
Andrew, Jr. Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Me Preferred Pronoun?: He Relationship Status: Unavailable Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Over the Rainbow in a House Posts: 5,072 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 16,004 Thanked 5,249 Times in 2,216 Posts Rep Power: 0	Thanks for the info Kim. I didn't know they were virus's. That makes me even sadder for the pets. Belle, I can't get into that link. Is it the right one or am I doing something wrong? Let me know. Thanks love.

12-14-2009, 05:44 PM	#11
NotAnAverageGuy Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Trans Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,723 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 109 Thanked 282 Times in 178 Posts Rep Power: 0	Yeah the dog had her shots but I know nothing is fool proof and vaccines are not a cure all.