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Old 10-09-2010, 11:38 AM   #1
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More GOP support having a strip-club at Ground Zero than a Mosque:

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I'm not surprised. This is just the sort of thing that sexual repression does to folks.

Remember, the GOP is lead by people who keep getting caught in (same and opposite) sex scandals, practice serial marriage ("honey, I know you're kinda busy here in this hospital bed, but I want a divorce"), use taxpayer dollars to visit girlfriends in other countries, hold fundraisers at lesbian bondage clubs, and held a convention in Tampa, aka the Strip Club Capital of America.

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saw this and had to post it. Dan Savage answered this woman way better than I ever could have!



October 14, 2010

Dear Dan: I was listening to the radio yesterday morning, and I heard an interview with you about your It Gets Better campaign. I was saddened and frustrated with your comments regarding people of faith and their perpetuation of bullying. As someone who loves the Lord and does not support gay marriage, I can honestly say I was heartbroken to hear about the young man who took his own life.
If your message is that we should not judge people based on their sexual preference, how do you justify judging entire groups of people for any other reason (including their faith)? There is no part of me that took any pleasure in what happened to that young man, and I know for a fact that is true of many other people who disagree with your viewpoint.
To that end, to imply that I would somehow encourage my children to mock, hurt, or intimidate another person for any reason is completely unfounded and offensive. Being a follower of Christ is, above all things, a recognition that we are all imperfect, fallible, and in desperate need of a savior. We cannot believe that we are better or more worthy than other people.
Please consider your viewpoint, and please be more careful with your words in the future.
—L.R.

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I'm sorry your feelings were hurt by my comments.
No, wait. I'm not. Gay kids are dying. So let's try to keep things in perspective: Fuck your feelings.
A question: Do you "support" atheist marriage? Interfaith marriage? Divorce and remarriage? All are legal, all go against Christian and/or traditional ideas about marriage, and yet there's no "Christian" movement to deny marriage rights to atheists or people marrying outside their respective faiths or people divorcing and remarrying.
Why the hell not?
Sorry, L.R., but so long as you support the denial of marriage rights to same-sex couples, it's clear that you do believe that some people—straight people—are "better or more worthy" than others.
And—sorry—but you are partly responsible for the bullying and physical violence being visited on vulnerable LGBT children. The kids of people who see gay people as sinful or damaged or disordered and unworthy of full civil equality—even if those people strive to express their bigotry in the politest possible way (at least when they happen to be addressing a gay person)—learn to see gay people as sinful, damaged, disordered, and unworthy. And while there may not be any gay adults or couples where you live, or at your church, or in your workplace, I promise you that there are gay and lesbian children in your schools. And while you can only attack gays and lesbians at the ballot box, nice and impersonally, your children have the option of attacking actual gays and lesbians, in person, in real time.
Real gay and lesbian children. Not political abstractions, not "sinners." Gay and lesbian children.
Try to keep up: The dehumanizing bigotries that fall from the lips of "faithful Christians," and the lies about us that vomit out from the pulpits of churches that "faithful Christians" drag their kids to on Sundays, give your children license to verbally abuse, humiliate, and condemn the gay children they encounter at school. And many of your children—having listened to Mom and Dad talk about how gay marriage is a threat to family and how gay sex makes their magic sky friend Jesus cry—feel justified in physically abusing the LGBT children they encounter in their schools. You don't have to explicitly "encourage [your] children to mock, hurt, or intimidate" queer kids. Your encouragement—along with your hatred and fear—is implicit. It's here, it's clear, and we're seeing the fruits of it: dead children.
Oh, and those same dehumanizing bigotries that fill your straight children with hate? They fill your gay children with suicidal despair. And you have the nerve to ask me to be more careful with my words?
Did that hurt to hear? Good. But it couldn't have hurt nearly as much as what was said and done to Asher Brown and Justin Aaberg and Billy Lucas and Cody Barker and Seth Walsh—day-in, day-out for years—at schools filled with bigoted little monsters created not in the image of a loving God, but in the image of the hateful and false "followers of Christ" they call Mom and Dad.
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I'm not surprised. This is just the sort of thing that sexual repression does to folks.

Remember, the GOP is lead by people who keep getting caught in (same and opposite) sex scandals, practice serial marriage ("honey, I know you're kinda busy here in this hospital bed, but I want a divorce"), use taxpayer dollars to visit girlfriends in other countries, hold fundraisers at lesbian bondage clubs, and held a convention in Tampa, aka the Strip Club Capital of America.

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This isn't capital-P Political but it still spins my head and ties into my feelings about the current political climate:

Man cited for littering after cash to panhandler hits ground

John Davis says he was cited for littering, which carries a $344 fine, rather than for giving money to a panhandler, which carries a much smaller penalty.

Davis, who pleaded not guilty on Tuesday in a Cleveland court, tells WJW that he was pulled over by a police officer after handing the money to the panhandler, who was in a wheelchair and holding a religious sign.

"Obviously he's needing some money or he wouldn't be out there," he told Fox 8.

Davis says court costs alone could run as much as $500, not including attorney fees.

"I never thought that a couple dollars could turn into a couple hundred dollars or whatever it may be at this point," Davis tells WJW-TV.
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Nat, this is both head-spinning shit and it is political! A disabled panhandler clearly must have issues with poverty to need to ask for money.

That cop was also clearly punishing the generous man for giving him some.

Once again, only in America.

Some facts on poverty in general, which also are head-spinning:

"*Almost half the world — over 3 billion people — live on less than $2.50 a day.

*The GDP (Gross Domestic Product) of the 41 Heavily Indebted Poor Countries (567 million people) is less than the wealth of the world’s 7 richest people combined.

*Nearly a billion people entered the 21st century unable to read a book or sign their names.

*Less than one per cent of what the world spent every year on weapons was needed to put every child into school by the year 2000 and yet it didn’t happen.

* 1 billion children live in poverty (1 in 2 children in the world). 640 million live without adequate shelter, 400 million have no access to safe water, 270 million have no access to health services. 10.6 million died in 2003 before they reached the age of 5 (or roughly 29,000 children per day).

— More Facts (and Sources) »

Poverty is the state for the majority of the world’s people and nations. Why is this? Is it enough to blame poor people for their own predicament? Have they been lazy, made poor decisions, and been solely responsible for their plight?

What about their governments? Have they pursued policies that actually harm successful development? Such causes of poverty and inequality are no doubt real. But deeper and more global causes of poverty are often less discussed.

Behind the increasing interconnectedness promised by globalization are global decisions, policies, and practices. These are typically influenced, driven, or formulated by the rich and powerful. These can be leaders of rich countries or other global actors such as multinational corporations, institutions, and influential people.

In the face of such enormous external influence, the governments of poor nations and their people are often powerless. As a result, in the global context, a few get wealthy while the majority struggle.

These next few sections explore various poverty issues in more depth:

Most of humanity lives on just a few dollars a day. Whether you live in the wealthiest nations in the world or the poorest, you will see high levels of inequality.

The poorest people will also have less access to health, education and other services. Problems of hunger, malnutrition and disease afflict the poorest in society. The poorest are also typically marginalized from society and have little representation or voice in public and political debates, making it even harder to escape poverty.

By contrast, the wealthier you are, the more likely you are to benefit from economic or political policies. The amount the world spends on military, financial bailouts and other areas that benefit the wealthy, compared to the amount spent to address the daily crisis of poverty and related problems are often staggering.

Some facts and figures on poverty presented in this page are eye-openers, to say the least."

http://www.globalissues.org/issue/2/causes-of-poverty

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This isn't capital-P Political but it still spins my head and ties into my feelings about the current political climate:

Man cited for littering after cash to panhandler hits ground

John Davis says he was cited for littering, which carries a $344 fine, rather than for giving money to a panhandler, which carries a much smaller penalty.

Davis, who pleaded not guilty on Tuesday in a Cleveland court, tells WJW that he was pulled over by a police officer after handing the money to the panhandler, who was in a wheelchair and holding a religious sign.

"Obviously he's needing some money or he wouldn't be out there," he told Fox 8.

Davis says court costs alone could run as much as $500, not including attorney fees.

"I never thought that a couple dollars could turn into a couple hundred dollars or whatever it may be at this point," Davis tells WJW-TV.
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The link does not work but I think this is what you are talking about

http://www.collegenews.com/article/m...mment_faux-pas

I sometimes wonder if nit-picking every word someone says is actually useful but some of them are down right funny.....not that this one is funny...
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I should have checked the link after i posted. Now i can't find it.
Here are the homepages of Thomhartmann and Truthout. I should put up Democracy Now also. I didn't realize i was in the head - spinning thread when i posted either.. However, if enough is read...head - spinning will probably occur unfortunately.


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In Kentucky, a state elected official wants creationism given the same status as evolutionary theory on the ACT. Money quote is:

"The theory of evolution is a theory, and essentially the theory of evolution is not science -- Darwin made it up," state Sen. Ben Waide (R) said. "My objection is they should ensure whatever scientific material is being put forth as a standard should at least stand up to scientific method. Under the most rudimentary, basic scientific examination, the theory of evolution has never stood up to scientific scrutiny."

This is not even wrong. I don't even know where to begin. Evolutionary theory not only holds up but it is one of the most successful theories in *any* scientific domain. How sure are biologists about evolutionary theory? It is *at least* as established as the following ideas that everyone accepts:

water is made up of two hydrogen atoms and an oxygen atom
the Earth orbits the Sun
the atomic model

That is as established as things get.

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Romney suggests Emergency Room as alternative to health insurance
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Romney suggests Emergency Room as alternative to health insurance
I am employed by an inner city hospital Emergency Department where urban blight, poverty and drug abuse is rampant. This already happening! Folks who have little or no access to primary care are using the ER as their doctor's appointment. Combine that with other urban center woes (lots of gun and knife violence, untreated substance abuse and untreated chronic illness PLUS AIDS, TB, MRSA and Hep C. What the f*ck is Romney's problem? Sigh - if that is the solution - its already being used and its NOT WORKING! Folks deserve much more than this!

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He's ignorant, is the problem, as is the considerable possibility that he has a strong sociopathic streak. He grew up privileged and has no idea how the rest of the world--or even the non-filthy-rich majority of his own culture--lives, quite possibly because he doesn't care what happens to them as long as he becomes more and more privileged.
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The other day I was getting gas at the store,while I was paying for it I got ina convo with some folks about the election.The thing I ge about Romney is corp greed,plan and simple and more of it if he is elected.But the romney side is saying Obama has riased the deficite to many times what Bush did,My anser was it was going to take money to clear up the mess Bush made and lots of it..Fact is I live in a repuplican state wuch use to be a big democrat state.Since that happened we have lost jobs anmd contrats to bring in jobs a ten fold,our education has had big set backs,medical services to the needy as well as rehab serveices is at a half stance at best,it will only get worse if we change boats in the midle of the river both for my state and country.I feel a great fear for whats to be had if Romney wins.I will hold my corse for as stronger economy,health system as well as educational system as I firmly still beleave in Obamas reason and corse to follow.Stand firm in the next election for us all.
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Ummm..
Romney looks at the Presidency seat as a business.. for himself and his cronies.and if your going to go for the president of the Unites States, it would be wise not to insult our foreign friends.
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I'm not surprised. This is just the sort of thing that sexual repression does to folks.

Remember, the GOP is lead by people who keep getting caught in (same and opposite) sex scandals, practice serial marriage ("honey, I know you're kinda busy here in this hospital bed, but I want a divorce"), use taxpayer dollars to visit girlfriends in other countries, hold fundraisers at lesbian bondage clubs, and held a convention in Tampa, aka the Strip Club Capital of America.

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This is so astonishing to me, that I posted it on two different threads. Talk about head-spinning - thought my neck was going to SNAP over this one.
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Please note - this bill was introduced BY A WOMAN!!!!
AZ Introduces Bill Allowing Employers to Fire Women for Using Contraception

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The Senate Judiciary Committee voted 6-2 Monday to endorse a controversial bill that would allow Arizona employers the right to deny health insurance coverage for contraceptives based on religious objections.
Arizona House Bill 2625, authored by Majority Whip Debbie Lesko, R-Glendale, would permit employers to ask their employees for proof of medical prescription if they seek contraceptives for non-reproductive purposes, such as hormone control or acne treatment.
“I believe we live in America. We don’t live in the Soviet Union,” Lesko said. “So, government should not be telling the organizations or mom and pop employers to do something against their moral beliefs.”



It all sounds rather condescending and Arizonish when you put it like that, but there’s more to this bill than meets the eye.
Arizona is an at-will employment state, which means bosses can fire you just because. The type of employer who wishes to deny women access to contraception unless absolutely medically required to do so (think ovarian cysts) is the type of employer that may give women a pink slip for failing to provide medical records showing a non-birth control necessity for well, birth control.
In short, if your boss objects to you taking the pill, under Arizona House Bill 2625 your boss is protected by the law in terminating your employment.
Jezebel’s Erin Gloria Ryan has a fantastic piece up explaining this all far better than I’m able to. (Because I’m leaving for the airport, not because I lack ovaries.) Go read it.
Please, dear readers, make a giant stink about this. Share this. Spread the word. The war on women in our country is bizarre and real and very much happening. Attention gays, stand up for the women standing up for you.
How is this real life?
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I am just plain discusted with the far right's attacks on women via politics. Brings me back to pre Roe v Wade decision as an activist in my 20's and all the struggles. I am hopeful with seeing young women standing up as we did back the- and my grandmother before me for the right for women to vote. This battle is never really won, even with a large cadre of feminist men coming up with us. Letting down our guard always seems to bring these attempts to push women back.

I feel like whe women become complacent, even take things for granted as "always being so," misogyny seeps back into our lives. But, the current right wing legislative ploys are just plain alarming.
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