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CMPD Chief Rodney Monroe: "I respect the decisions and convictions of those who have decided to resign, as I would never ask anyone to compromise their beliefs," he said.
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I agree - WRONG response. Ugh. Sickening. But I am glad they left. Did they only provide emotional support to straight people? It's better if they're not out on the street "helping" people especially during times of grief and turmoil. It's unbelievable to me that people with these attitudes even go into positions in human services.
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I agree that perhaps that was the wrong response, however, you have to give kudos to the man for hiring her and sticking by her, not asking her to resign to placate the masses. Rodney Monroe has been in his share of controversy since his appointment but let's not overlook that he did do a progressive and good thing in hiring her in the first place and then standing by his appointment. Prior to his arrival, all LGBT matters within the department were swept under the rug and kept hush hush, at least he's having the balls to come out within the force so to speak.
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I think it's progressive that they had such a strong, well-developed spiritual support program. Hiring the new chaplain, sticking by her, and saying a polite goodbye to the six who resigned is also professional. They were all volunteers and couldn't be compelled to stay--just thanked for what they had done. Now it clears out the department to bring on new clergy who are more forward-thinking. It's a great story, and I'm not disappointed with the response.
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There is a book and also a podcast series called "Coming Out from Behind the Badge" which talks a lot about experiences of gay and lesbian police officers and the cultures within different police departments. I haven't read the book, but I've listened to some of the podcasts, and I recommend it for anybody who's interested.
It's really frustrating to me that people think gay-hating is a "belief" which should be "respected."
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I don't disagree with you. Maybe the chief doesn't think that, either. Just knowing the culture of the community, and keeping in mind his goal, he may have felt that this was the best way to handle to situation to keep it non-contentious. He's making what are, sadly, some really remarkable changes. I'm just guessing, though.
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"I respect the decisions and convictions of those who have decided to resign, as I would never ask anyone to compromise their beliefs." One the one hand, one could see this as a gay hating response. One the other hand, one could see it as a respectful way of acknowledging people have different beliefs and there is respect for all beliefs whether one agrees with them or not. And there is also respect for making decisions which makes one true to oneself without disrupting the progress of inclusion. Actions always speak louder than words to me. Clergy resigning due to their beliefs tells me they are not only being true to themselves but are also choosing to remove themselves from the situation rather than fight. Not fighting tells me there is a fundamental acceptance for differences within the chaplaincy program which could not be overcome. This, in turn, tells me there is, within the police department and the chaplaincy program, an understanding, tolenarce, acceptance, respect and willingness towards inclusion. Overall, I see it as a wise and diplomatic choice of words to indicate beliefs are respected but will not stop tolerance from being part of this institution.
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I don't see that big of an issue with the statement:
"I respect the decisions and convictions of those who have decided to resign, as I would never ask anyone to compromise their beliefs" Why? Because I would never ask anyone to compromise their beliefs. Why? Because I will NOT compromise my beliefs for anyone, not one single person, so it would be hypocritical of me to do the same or tell someone to do that very thing. A persons religious beliefs are just that, theirs, just as yours are yours and mine are mine. No one should challenge a persons religious beliefs lest you want to put your own under the microscope. Religion is a personal issue and a personal choice as I see it. As far as the first part: "He respects their decisions and convictions". Why shouldn't he respect their difference in opinion. After all we are asking people to respect our decisions for ourselves, our own convictions as individuals and as a group. I don't know, I'm not reading anything inflammatory into that other than what he meant which was in no way derogatory towards anyone. He was just stating his mind and respecting their decision to resign. |
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![]() Now they can just be homophobic private citizens....which is at least better than homophobic chaplains potentially spreading their crap from a position of "authority."
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I'm not saying that what the Chief did in hiring or sticking by her was NOT a good thing. What I do take issue is the statement that I quoted.
Would that statement be acceptable if they had resigned due to ANY OTHER person from a minority group (or a even a straight woman) being hired? What other group of people--besides a member from the LGBTQ community--would it be acceptable, today, for a Chief of Police to say, "I respect the decisions and convictions of those who have decided to resign, as I would never ask anyone to compromise their beliefs" ? Again, I am not positing that the retention of a lesbian pastor isn't progressive or should not be given credit. I just don't think that statement would be acceptable if it was directed to any other group (who is non-White Christian male) besides someone who is queer. Last edited by Soon; 11-07-2010 at 10:51 AM. |
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