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Old 11-08-2010, 06:14 PM   #1
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I am trying to grasp your concern after a very long, tiring day with an empty tummy and swiss cheese for a brain. Perhaps I should revisit this when I am rested and full.

Peace.
Kobi - hopefully you will have rested, eaten and prepared a meal of your brain by the time you read.

I am not sure what generation you are (actually should not matter). BUT - I have lived, participated and fought for this community for 30 years - I have seen my friends raped and even murdered based on the fact they were LGBTQ. I was a gay teen and I attempted suicide in 1977. I was 15 years old. I have been raped based on who I am. I can still hear the laughter in their voices.

Today, we are seeing so many of our youth killing themselves - because really as simple as the concept is.

IGNORANCE breeds HATE
Hate KILLS!
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Kobi - hopefully you will have rested, eaten and prepared a meal of your brain by the time you read.

I am not sure what generation you are (actually should not matter). BUT - I have lived, participated and fought for this community for 30 years - I have seen my friends raped and even murdered based on the fact they were LGBTQ. I was a gay teen and I attempted suicide in 1977. I was 15 years old and a gay teen. I have been raped based on who I am. I can still hear the laughter in their voices.

Today, we are seeing so many of our youth killing themselves - because really as simple as the concept it.

IGNORANCE breeds HATE
Hate KILLS!
I agree with you 100% but I'm more offended at the grown ass man that worked for the school board saying that he's happy the young people that killed themselves did. The kid that made this game is 19 years old, he probably has never even been out of his home town and he's a nerd (I know my own kind) and is probably gay himself he just hasn't realized it yet.
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I agree with you 100% but I'm more offended at the grown ass man that worked for the school board saying that he's happy the young people that killed themselves did. The kid that made this game is 19 years old, he probably has never even been out of his home town and he's a nerd (I know my own kind) and is probably gay himself he just hasn't realized it yet.
I get it Son! He is probably completely unaware of the ramifications of his game. He is probably a latent homosexual (I love that term) and absolutely a nerd. Could in fact be any one of our children.

Still no excuse, and I would like to kick his ass.

YES - that educator was horrid in his words about our children. And he was taken care of. But what about the message he sent out prior? Same as the message this little twirp is sending out.
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I agree with you 100% but I'm more offended at the grown ass man that worked for the school board saying that he's happy the young people that killed themselves did. The kid that made this game is 19 years old, he probably has never even been out of his home town and he's a nerd (I know my own kind) and is probably gay himself he just hasn't realized it yet.
See, that's kind of my thing.

There are always going to be people who hate Queers. There are always going to be people who hate POC. There are always going to be people who hate fat people, French-speakers, people who voted for Nader, people who wear white socks, etc etc etc. It's not going to go away.

And because I know it's not going to go away - I am a "pick your battles" kind of girl. I just think that there are bigger and more harmful haters out there than some sad little virgin living in his mommy's basement. I'll focus on the haters who are in a position to do actual damage. I'd go bald if I was stressed over a game that maybe a couple hundred douchebags on the internet will play.

And when I am not focusing on the bigger badder haters I will try and match Kobi's score in that "running over children and little old ladies" game.
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See, that's kind of my thing.

There are always going to be people who hate Queers. There are always going to be people who hate POC. There are always going to be people who hate fat people, French-speakers, people who voted for Nader, people who wear white socks, etc etc etc. It's not going to go away.

And because I know it's not going to go away - I am a "pick your battles" kind of girl. I just think that there are bigger and more harmful haters out there than some sad little virgin living in his mommy's basement. I'll focus on the haters who are in a position to do actual damage. I'd go bald if I was stressed over a game that maybe a couple hundred douchebags on the internet will play.

And when I am not focusing on the bigger badder haters I will try and match Kobi's score in that "running over children and little old ladies" game.
Exactly, it takes all kinds.
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Thanks, Nat for all of that information!

I was just coming in here to post a small portion of that:

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I certainly WILL be writing.....and I'm going to post this on FB, too.


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Register.com might be open to feedback on how their client is using the domain.

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They might not care but they do have a handy customer service number.
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And if the game is in flash, flash is an adobe product and adobe might have some restrictions on the use of said product.

Calling adobe now
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And if the game is in flash, flash is an adobe product and adobe might have some restrictions on the use of said product.

Thank You Nat for getting the information.

I wrote Tom an email, as a parent, a lesbian, a gay teen *once upon a time* and as a fellow human being. I was polite in my email and not threatening. I am hoping for to create communication with him. He is pretty smart, this young man and so young still.

I also watched a video interview about him. He seems (god I hope) to be sweet. Let's just hope he is unaware.

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I just posted this information on FaceBook.....

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I understand the concerns everyone has at this time about the game, is it better to ignore the game and simply do complaint, or bring more people to go to site look at then just get upset and cause more popularity for these kinda things. I mean about a month ago there was this game where u killed homeless ppl or drug wars.

Programming isnt going to stop, so the question is for me is, do u educate that ppl should be more thoughtful when creating video games or limit the content of video games all together, cause is it the killing of ppl in general or just gay ppl cause I think both are pretty bad
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I understand the concerns everyone has at this time about the game, is it better to ignore the game and simply do complaint, or bring more people to go to site look at then just get upset and cause more popularity for these kinda things. I mean about a month ago there was this game where u killed homeless ppl or drug wars.

Programming isnt going to stop, so the question is for me is, do u educate that ppl should be more thoughtful when creating video games or limit the content of video games all together, cause is it the killing of ppl in general or just gay ppl cause I think both are pretty bad
It will be something different next week. Meanwhile we are sitting here focused on a 19 year old boy, when the house of representatives are about to try to wreck havoc on our civil rights.
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Calling adobe now
PS. Adobe did not care. I spoke with several customer service reps from Adobe and they were unable to understand me or why I was calling.
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I've requested that this game be removed. Had a few LGBT activists carrying out personal attacks.

I have nothing against any group of people. I made this 3 years ago for god knows what reason.

Sorry.
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Thank You, Nat.

If he does in fact take it down - then what we have done is a good thing. We might have wasted time as some have said... This kid is clueless as Organic stated earlier. Kind of makes me sad, that he has no idea the implication of his actions.

I am happy to read this, will be happier when it's off.
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It's not TM infringement. You may have better luck with the webhost, which deals more with content. But if they do not have an anti-hate clause there's really no grounds.
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Then there is cogentco
http://cogentco.com/us/cs_faq.php

"Cogent takes its abuse policy very seriously. Please send abuse complaints to abuse@cogentco.com."
http://cogentco.com/us/AcceptableUsePolicy.php

Acceptable Use Policy
This Acceptable Use Policy applies to all persons and entities (collectively, "customers") using the products and services of Cogent Communications, Inc., ("Cogent") including Internet service. The policy is designed to protect the security, integrity, reliability, and privacy of both the Cogent network and the products and services Cogent offers to its customers. Cogent reserves the right to modify this policy at any time, effective immediately upon posting of the modification. Your use of Cogent's products and services constitutes your acceptance of the Acceptable Use Policy in effect at the time of your use. You are solely responsible for any and all acts and omissions that occur during or relating to your use of the service, and you agree not to engage in any unacceptable use of the service.

What Uses are Prohibited?

Unacceptable use includes, but is not limited to, any of the following:

(these are the two that seem most related possibly)

1. Posting, transmission, re-transmission, or storing material on or through any of Cogent's products or services, if in the sole judgment of Cogent such posting, transmission, re-transmission or storage is: (a) in violation of any local, state, federal, or non-United States law or regulation (including rights protected by copyright, trade secret, patent or other intellectual property or similar laws or regulations); (b) threatening or abusive; (c) obscene; (d) indecent; or (e) defamatory. Each customer shall be responsible for determining what laws or regulations are applicable to his or her use of the products and services.


15. Harassment, whether through language, frequency, or size of messages.




Enforcement

Cogent may immediately suspend and/or terminate the customer's service for violation of any provision of this policy upon verbal or written notice, which notice may be provided by voicemail or E-mail. Prior to suspension or termination, Cogent attempts to work with our customers to cure violations of this policy and ensure that there is no re-occurrence; however, Cogent reserves the right to suspend or terminate based on a first offense


Questions?

If you are unsure of whether any contemplated use or action is permitted, please contact Cogent at abuse@cogentco.com or (877) 7-cogent.
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