The Re-Definition of the Modern Butch

Jett · 12-21-2009, 12:48 AM

T4 I agree and feel the same that butch isn't going anywhere, and I don't believe it's changing all that much either but hopefully some of the things we criticize about each other and hold over each others heads at times will.

And just to be clear, again, this thread isn't about changing what butch is, or saying that a stereotypical type of butch is incorrect... I've identified as butch for longer than some peeps on this forum have been alive and to be honest here one could say I'm fairly stereotypical butch and so is my relationship... I'm also very not stereotypical in many ways... and nothings wrong with either of those things and that's kind of the point.

It's about not perpetuating those myths/stereotypes to point of smothering individuality or and discouraging peeps from doing or being every single damn thing they want in this life without worrying about being thought of as less butch.

I just get tired of seeing people trying to pull other peeps butch cards based on ID differences, gender variances or who they date etc. etc. etc.

That's all I've got

Metropolis

Dragonfly · 12-23-2009, 01:24 AM

A big THANKS To everyone posting here. Especially hearing it from the mentoring generations who evolved and opened their views to be more accepting of each other's ID's. It really helps to know there are supportive people for those confused by "card pullers" when new terms are included and added all the time. Navigating through my own is hard enough and understanding others is easier without the "card pullers" adding to it. Hearing from those of us who admit to having to rethink our own views will hopefully create more PATIENCE with the "card pullers" and we will love them too until they get on board...

Dragonfly · 12-23-2009, 01:27 AM

To Met @ the hair thing: Umm both of the husbands I had wore their hair long. Just sayin... perspectives of gender traits are not universally the same. I really feel you on that one. Long hair is not = to feminine.

Jett · 12-23-2009, 10:24 AM

Right Amelia thanks. Yeah I would have no qualms about growing my hair longer, and actually I'm in the process of growing it to where I like it (3-4 inches but above the shoulder) though it's still short short short right now.

Thanks again and have a great day.

Metro

12-21-2009, 12:48 AM	#1
Jett Member How Do You Identify?: Hardcore bullheaded grown-ass Tomboy Preferred Pronoun?: She Relationship Status: she loves my shaggy hair Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The backroom of a night cafe plotting world domination Posts: 1,028 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,054 Thanked 3,299 Times in 568 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	Thanks for everyones posts... T4 I agree and feel the same that butch isn't going anywhere, and I don't believe it's changing all that much either but hopefully some of the things we criticize about each other and hold over each others heads at times will. And just to be clear, again, this thread isn't about changing what butch is, or saying that a stereotypical type of butch is incorrect... I've identified as butch for longer than some peeps on this forum have been alive and to be honest here one could say I'm fairly stereotypical butch and so is my relationship... I'm also very not stereotypical in many ways... and nothings wrong with either of those things and that's kind of the point. It's about not perpetuating those myths/stereotypes to point of smothering individuality or and discouraging peeps from doing or being every single damn thing they want in this life without worrying about being thought of as less butch. I just get tired of seeing people trying to pull other peeps butch cards based on ID differences, gender variances or who they date etc. etc. etc. That's all I've got Metropolis __________________ .......... In the depth of winter I finally learned that there was in me an invincible summer. ~Albert Camus Last edited by Jett; 12-21-2009 at 12:56 AM.

12-23-2009, 01:24 AM	#2
Dragonfly Member How Do You Identify?: Queersexual Female Preferred Pronoun?: She Relationship Status: smiling real big Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: My Own House Illinois Posts: 330 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 871 Thanked 346 Times in 151 Posts Rep Power: 645438	quick thanks A big THANKS To everyone posting here. Especially hearing it from the mentoring generations who evolved and opened their views to be more accepting of each other's ID's. It really helps to know there are supportive people for those confused by "card pullers" when new terms are included and added all the time. Navigating through my own is hard enough and understanding others is easier without the "card pullers" adding to it. Hearing from those of us who admit to having to rethink our own views will hopefully create more PATIENCE with the "card pullers" and we will love them too until they get on board... __________________ Stay Gold.

12-23-2009, 01:27 AM	#3
Dragonfly Member How Do You Identify?: Queersexual Female Preferred Pronoun?: She Relationship Status: smiling real big Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: My Own House Illinois Posts: 330 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 871 Thanked 346 Times in 151 Posts Rep Power: 645438	To Met @ the hair thing: Umm both of the husbands I had wore their hair long. Just sayin... perspectives of gender traits are not universally the same. I really feel you on that one. Long hair is not = to feminine. __________________ Stay Gold.

12-23-2009, 10:24 AM	#4
Jett Member How Do You Identify?: Hardcore bullheaded grown-ass Tomboy Preferred Pronoun?: She Relationship Status: she loves my shaggy hair Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The backroom of a night cafe plotting world domination Posts: 1,028 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,054 Thanked 3,299 Times in 568 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	Right Amelia thanks. Yeah I would have no qualms about growing my hair longer, and actually I'm in the process of growing it to where I like it (3-4 inches but above the shoulder) though it's still short short short right now. Thanks again and have a great day. Metro __________________ .......... In the depth of winter I finally learned that there was in me an invincible summer. ~Albert Camus Last edited by Jett; 12-23-2009 at 10:35 AM.