Ode to Butches

[apretty]

Originally Posted by Hudson

No, it wasn't the same one. Not at all. But this thread does prove that if butches *think* an 'ode' is written by a woman, or at least posted by one, then it's welcome, whereas one they believe is the exact same, if written or posted by a man, (attracted to masculinity) is not. Or at least that's what's been said before.

yes, that struck me as well--such vastly different responses, i have to say it points to an element of homophobia... at the very least, male-phobia--i wonder why that dynamic is so uncomfortable for members.

[BullDog]

We aren't interested in men being interested in us. We are lesbian/queer.

[apretty]

Originally Posted by BullDog

We aren't interested in men being interested in us. We are lesbian/queer.

some of us are bi. some of us do love men, bio and otherwise. i just don't get rejecting men, categorically. i mean, the most my 'disinterest' gets is a 'shrug' --but there's something to all this *outrage* --that's what i don't get and find fascinating.

[BullDog]

Why are butch women supposed to welcome some long ode allegedly written by a man in a personal ad and supposed to want to discuss it on a butch femme website?

[Hudson]

Originally Posted by BullDog

Why are butch women supposed to welcome some long ode allegedly written by a man in a personal ad and supposed to want to discuss it on a butch femme website?

You're not. But an 'ode to butches', no matter by whom it was written, is appropriate subject matter for a butch/femme website. Where better to discuss it? Someplace that would not handle it with the same knowledge and respect? And why do you feel the need to monitor and control what other people want to discuss just because you don't?

[BullDog]

Originally Posted by Hudson

You're not. But an 'ode to butches', no matter by whom it was written, is appropriate subject matter for a butch/femme website. Where better to discuss it? Someplace that would not handle it with the same knowledge and respect? And why do you feel the need to monitor and control what other people want to discuss just because you don't?

Why do you keep insisting on discussing it when no butch woman has shown an interest.

[Hudson]

Originally Posted by BullDog

Why do you keep insisting on discussing it when no butch woman has shown an interest.

Edit: it was a personal ad, not something I need to handle with knowledge and respect.

In case you didn't notice (maybe she was invisible) there was a femme in the discussion.

[Kosmo]

Originally Posted by apretty

some of us are bi. some of us do love men, bio and otherwise. i just don't get rejecting men, categorically. i mean, the most my 'disinterest' gets is a 'shrug' --but there's something to all this *outrage* --that's what i don't get and find fascinating.

I find it fascinating that you feel there is all this 'outrage'. Here in this thread?

As for those that are bi, I would hope they feel free to comment on how they find the 'ode' flattering.

[Kosmo]

This is an 'ode to Butches' thread . Any takers?

[Hudson]

Originally Posted by Kosmo

This is an 'ode to Butches' thread . Any takers?

I think they're awesome and badass.

But then, I'm a dude.

[Kosmo]

Originally Posted by Hudson

I think they're awesome and badass.

But then, I'm a dude.

Thank you for this 'ode', Hudson. As short as it is, it speaks volumes to me and I'm jonesing for an 'ode'.

I hug you {{Hudson}}

[Cyclopea]

Originally Posted by apretty

yes, that struck me as well--such vastly different responses, i have to say it points to an element of homophobia... at the very least, male-phobia--i wonder why that dynamic is so uncomfortable for members.

We're GAY !lol.