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foxyshaman · 03-10-2011, 03:25 PM

Andrew,

I have read many of your posts on this site and am very aware you are Christian. I, for one outside of christianity, appreciate your interest, curiousity and ability to allow others their own practices and faith.

Andrew, Jr. · 03-11-2011, 10:57 AM

Foxy,

Thank you for your kind words. I appreciate them. I get the perception that most don't understand me at all. I say one thing, and it gets taken out of the context of what I am meaning. For example, what is inside of me only comes out in dribbles. Make sense - yes?

I believe that there is more to this life than what most of us really understand. For example, most people think all mothers love and accept their children they birth. They have no realization/concept that there are some mothers who don't want their children or reject them. It is a part of nature. I believe that faith and nature as being interconnected. So as human beings we are all as well too.

Peace,
Andrew

Bit · 03-13-2011, 11:13 PM

I'm here--no time to write but I confess that's because I got caught up in reading a series of permaculture essays by my fav writer on the subject, Toby Hemenway. He's the author of Gaia's Garden and he is outstanding at seeing and analyzing patterns.

http://patternliteracy.com/index.html This is his website.

I will be back; I have some thoughts and questions about our convo but yanno, tis after midnight now.... sheesh, that caught me off guard. Darned Daylight Savings.

foxyshaman · 03-14-2011, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew, Jr.

Foxy,

Thank you for your kind words. I appreciate them. I get the perception that most don't understand me at all. I say one thing, and it gets taken out of the context of what I am meaning. For example, what is inside of me only comes out in dribbles. Make sense - yes?

I believe that there is more to this life than what most of us really understand. For example, most people think all mothers love and accept their children they birth. They have no realization/concept that there are some mothers who don't want their children or reject them. It is a part of nature. I believe that faith and nature as being interconnected. So as human beings we are all as well too.

Peace,
Andrew

I have read your thoughts on your frustrations Andrew. And I can truly say I ask the spirits of love and compassion to sit with you and hear your stories.

I do know about Mothers rejecting their young. I work with them in my day job, every day. And fathers too, many fathers I come in contact with seem to believe their children are disposable.

Today, I am sure with the rest of the Planet the sorrows and fears in Japan are where my heart and thoughts lie.

Foxy

Andrew, Jr. · 03-14-2011, 12:59 PM

Foxy,

I am in an overwhelming grief over Japan. I cannot even begin to put it in words. It is such a loss of so many things, mainly humanitarian.

Yes, we must be patient with each other. And also reach out our hands to others. Sometimes politics separates nations and that should stop if you ask me. I cannot understand why we still have the poor among us, esp. children.

Sorry for the rant. I have information overload going on with Japan right now.

Thank you kind friend.

Bit · 03-14-2011, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by foxyshaman

Today, I am sure with the rest of the Planet the sorrows and fears in Japan are where my heart and thoughts lie.

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Originally Posted by Andrew, Jr.

Foxy,

I am in an overwhelming grief over Japan. I cannot even begin to put it in words.

It's one of those things which is too big to really understand; we can touch on it but I doubt if anyone can really truly articulate the immensity of the loss. The amount of pain and suffering is so huge; how could anyone endure it? And yet the people of Japan are enduring it, because they have no choice.

The need is so immense. It's overwhelming. Life can never be the same again for those who have lived through the destruction. Things like this mark people's souls.

2myladyblue · 03-15-2011, 07:23 PM

Wow...looks like I've missed some great convos...I'll have to go further to read back, but wanted to smile & wave all around & throw this one out there...

When 9/11 happened, I felt similar to the way many others are now feeling about Japan. Instinctively, I cleared space, burned candles, prayed (in as much as I do - that's a whole other convo...) & I wanted to put this to Foxy & Bit or anyone else who has an opinion (& I really hope this hasn't already been discussed further back) but...

Can we (psychically/energetically) lend....assistance in times of trouble - on a global scale (& if you believe so, how do you go about it)...

I think I'll leave it there for now, but I might have a story to share when I return....

-Blue

Bit · 03-15-2011, 10:46 PM

{{{{{{{{{{{Blue}}}}}}}}}}}}} Hi honey! Good to hear from you!

Yes, I believe we can and should lend assistance whenever we are able to. It's vitally important to people in a disaster; I believe the outpouring of love, concern, and prayers/energy is what makes it possible for people to survive things like 9/11, Katrina, or the disastrous earthquakes and tsunami in Japan. Without the compassion pouring in from the rest of the world, I think people would go on living but wouldn't really recover, yanno?

How to do it? Pretty much like you described doing. The candle might be optional for me, though. *smiling* I guess I don't see sending energy on a global scale any differently than I see sending energy to an individual--but then I grew up praying for world peace, so I guess I'm used to the idea of sending globally.

Love to hear your story! Hope you can come back soon!

03-10-2011, 03:25 PM	#1
foxyshaman Member How Do You Identify?: spiritually minded dirt dog Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: canada Posts: 898 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,957 Thanked 2,593 Times in 663 Posts Rep Power: 21474852	Andrew, I have read many of your posts on this site and am very aware you are Christian. I, for one outside of christianity, appreciate your interest, curiousity and ability to allow others their own practices and faith. __________________ Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. Muriel Strode

03-15-2011, 07:23 PM	#7
2myladyblue Member How Do You Identify?: Goddess Preferred Pronoun?: ...oui? Relationship Status: Worshipped Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Winterpeg, Manisnowba, The Great White North Posts: 430 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,255 Thanked 455 Times in 186 Posts Rep Power: 90765	Wow...looks like I've missed some great convos...I'll have to go further to read back, but wanted to smile & wave all around & throw this one out there... When 9/11 happened, I felt similar to the way many others are now feeling about Japan. Instinctively, I cleared space, burned candles, prayed (in as much as I do - that's a whole other convo...) & I wanted to put this to Foxy & Bit or anyone else who has an opinion (& I really hope this hasn't already been discussed further back) but... Can we (psychically/energetically) lend....assistance in times of trouble - on a global scale (& if you believe so, how do you go about it)... I think I'll leave it there for now, but I might have a story to share when I return.... -Blue __________________ "i believe people are see-through if you hold em up to the light i believe people are enlightening if you plug em in right" ~ alix olson "All strong souls first go to hell before they do the healing of the world they came here for." ~Clarissa Pinkola Estes

03-11-2011, 10:57 AM	#2
Andrew, Jr. Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Me Preferred Pronoun?: He Relationship Status: Unavailable Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Over the Rainbow in a House Posts: 5,072 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 16,004 Thanked 5,249 Times in 2,216 Posts Rep Power: 0	Foxy, Thank you for your kind words. I appreciate them. I get the perception that most don't understand me at all. I say one thing, and it gets taken out of the context of what I am meaning. For example, what is inside of me only comes out in dribbles. Make sense - yes? I believe that there is more to this life than what most of us really understand. For example, most people think all mothers love and accept their children they birth. They have no realization/concept that there are some mothers who don't want their children or reject them. It is a part of nature. I believe that faith and nature as being interconnected. So as human beings we are all as well too. Peace, Andrew

03-13-2011, 11:13 PM	#3
Bit Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Stonefemme Relationship Status: married to Gryph Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 2,177 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,126 Thanked 3,770 Times in 1,264 Posts Rep Power: 10778870	I'm here--no time to write but I confess that's because I got caught up in reading a series of permaculture essays by my fav writer on the subject, Toby Hemenway. He's the author of Gaia's Garden and he is outstanding at seeing and analyzing patterns. http://patternliteracy.com/index.html This is his website. I will be back; I have some thoughts and questions about our convo but yanno, tis after midnight now.... sheesh, that caught me off guard. Darned Daylight Savings.

03-14-2011, 12:59 PM	#5
Andrew, Jr. Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Me Preferred Pronoun?: He Relationship Status: Unavailable Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Over the Rainbow in a House Posts: 5,072 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 16,004 Thanked 5,249 Times in 2,216 Posts Rep Power: 0	Foxy, I am in an overwhelming grief over Japan. I cannot even begin to put it in words. It is such a loss of so many things, mainly humanitarian. Yes, we must be patient with each other. And also reach out our hands to others. Sometimes politics separates nations and that should stop if you ask me. I cannot understand why we still have the poor among us, esp. children. Sorry for the rant. I have information overload going on with Japan right now. Thank you kind friend.

03-15-2011, 10:46 PM	#8
Bit Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Stonefemme Relationship Status: married to Gryph Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 2,177 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,126 Thanked 3,770 Times in 1,264 Posts Rep Power: 10778870	{{{{{{{{{{{Blue}}}}}}}}}}}}} Hi honey! Good to hear from you! Yes, I believe we can and should lend assistance whenever we are able to. It's vitally important to people in a disaster; I believe the outpouring of love, concern, and prayers/energy is what makes it possible for people to survive things like 9/11, Katrina, or the disastrous earthquakes and tsunami in Japan. Without the compassion pouring in from the rest of the world, I think people would go on living but wouldn't really recover, yanno? How to do it? Pretty much like you described doing. The candle might be optional for me, though. smiling I guess I don't see sending energy on a global scale any differently than I see sending energy to an individual--but then I grew up praying for world peace, so I guess I'm used to the idea of sending globally. Love to hear your story! Hope you can come back soon!