When Is It Going to Stop?

[Jesse]

...and people wonder why I dislike being outed?

[scootebaby]

i dont know whether to cry or be angry or both..this just totally blew my mind. I can not believe all those people just stood around,and that managers behavior was even worse. Everyone of those employees should be fired, AND charged. I tried to figure out how to email the company,but my lack of knowledge on these things prevented me from figuring it out. My heart goes out to this woman!

[DapperButch]

This place is within driving distance for me. If anyone hears of any events to raise awareness at this location please post it up/PM me.

Thanks.

ETA: Article in local paper mentioned in article: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/mar...,4613709.story

[DapperButch]

Originally Posted by DapperButch

This place is within driving distance for me. If anyone hears of any events to raise awareness at this location please post it up/PM me.

Thanks.

ETA: Article in local paper mentioned in article: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/mar...,4613709.story

Additional note: This incident appears to have occured in Baltimore County, MD, not Baltimore, MD.

[Luv]

Originally Posted by scootebaby

i dont know whether to cry or be angry or both..this just totally blew my mind. I can not believe all those people just stood around,and that managers behavior was even worse. Everyone of those employees should be fired, AND charged. I tried to figure out how to email the company,but my lack of knowledge on these things prevented me from figuring it out. My heart goes out to this woman!

They have an area on their website under social responsibilities that u can send en email to..Id love to see them get thousands of emails.

http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/conta...nsibility.html

[Soft*Silver]

My submissive is a CIS male, who has felt he was a woman all of his life. He had barely heard of the term FtM until I came along. He has since enjoyed the plethera of richness of the trans community I have been able to introduce him to and I cannot wait to bring him to some social events locally. While he is considering becoming a FtM, right now he is still using the pronoun he. His name is Chrissy.

Chrissy has engaged in FemDom lifestyles in the heterosexual world, where he as the feminine man is submissive to the dominant female. There is always a twist of humilation to it because the male is feminized. In our Ds, there is no humiliation. He gets to be who he is, a submissive female serving his Dominant Mistress. He is living his life as female, in a lesbian relationship, in a Ds submissive role. He is in his glory. But outside of this world we create, we both know the dangers,..

Chrissy has witnessed brutality like that video. At the moment he has not stated he himself has been subjected to it He is above six foot tall and is built like a bear. His size is intimidating. This does not make it impossible for an attack to happen but people tend to pick on those who are easier targets. That wouldnt stop a group from targeting him, like that group targeted that girl in that McDonalds restaurant.

It made me sick to watch everyone watching. And laughing. And how the attack kept evolving and continuing. And she seized! And no one cared to administer any medical help! They drug her by her hair!

I am not in a romantic relationship with Chrissy but by god I love him. He serves me well and never have I experienced the deepest intimacy with another person as I have with him when we are engaged in our play. What he brings to me and offers to me is such a gift...that I would kill, literally kill someone if they tried to harm a hair upon his head.

this wickedness must stop. this hatred must stop. I have always been an advocate for trans rights. I shall be so even more now...

[girl_dee]

This has not much to do with our interpersonal relationships but everything to do with mankind. I chose not to watch the video after reading the details posted about it. I don't need to see horror to believe it.

This is not exclusive to transgendered folks, unfortunately. ANYone who stands out as different is a target. Sometimes it does not take that much. It breaks my heart that this happens in this day and age to people in our queer community.

Sadly this sort of thing will keep people in the closet.

[EnderD_503]

Thanks for the responses, folks. This truly is horrific, and from what I just read this morning it seems this woman's rights might get trampled on again because the law is not suited to protect her.

The transwoman has not been named at this point, but Equality Maryland has apparently confirmed that yes, she was a 22 year old transgender woman. Two arrests have been made thus far of an 18 year old woman and a 14 year old girl.

And then the story just goes downhill. Apparently recently the state of Maryland refused to pass a bill that would allow trans people to use the appropriate washroom. The attack apparently occurred over the use of the McDonald's bathroom, and the article speculates that the case will be dismissed because she won't be seen a as a woman trying to use the women's washroom, but as a man. If they dismiss this case they're pretty much giving the green light to any asshole to go beat up a trans person and get away with it. There is no excuse for assaulting someone like this.

If this is a case of a 22 year old man entering a bathroom while a 14 year old girl was using it – get ready for a legal showdown. Any sleazeball criminal defense attorney will have enough facts to argue for a dismissal. I am sure the two girls have already been called by attorneys willing to take the case pro bono, trying to make a name. LGBT rights will spend more time on trial during this soon to be circus than the girls will. Still all must agree the assault without a doubt is heinous.

http://www.tmrzoo.com/2011/24106

If a state is not going to allow laws protecting trans people as far as which bathroom they can use, then it at least needs to address the issue of...which fucking bathroom is it safe to use? Make more gender neutral washrooms if you're not going to protect people's basic right to use a washroom. This could have just as well have happened had this woman tried to use the men's bathroom. What is she supposed to do?

Just last week or the week before there was a rally by the SanFran lgbt community over the beating over another transwoman, and I hope this brutality brings people out to speak out against it in the same way. There needs to be a way for the entire community of lgbt folks everywhere to come together against this kind of violence, and put up a fight to end this kind of violence.

And I agree, this is a problem that faces the entire lgbt community and all gender variant people.

[weatherboi]

Ms and i both called McDonalds last night. They have already sent a team of corporate investigators to the location to try and evaluate what happened and to evaluate the needs of the person that was assaulted. They are encouraging people to call the toll free hot line and comment if they feel the need to do so. They do ask for contact information.

1-800-244-6227
7 days a week
7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. CST

[Ms. Tabitha]

Another article:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/upda...beating-video/

also:

McDonald's Employee Took Credit For Filming Brutal Beating In Baltimore Fast Food Joint

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/...medium=twitter

[DapperButch]

Originally Posted by EnderD_503

If a state is not going to allow laws protecting trans people as far as which bathroom they can use, then it at least needs to address the issue of...which fucking bathroom is it safe to use? Make more gender neutral washrooms if you're not going to protect people's basic right to use a washroom. This could have just as well have happened had this woman tried to use the men's bathroom. What is she supposed to do?

Unfortunately, in Maryland, the answer is "be the male you are and use the men's room And look like a guy if you don't want to get beat up there."

[Mister Bent]

Originally Posted by sassy_girl

This has not much to do with our interpersonal relationships but everything to do with mankind. I chose not to watch the video after reading the details posted about it. I don't need to see horror to believe it.

This is not exclusive to transgendered folks, unfortunately. ANYone who stands out as different is a target. Sometimes it does not take that much. It breaks my heart that this happens in this day and age to people in our queer community.

Sadly this sort of thing will keep people in the closet.

While I agree that attacks like these may keep some in the closet, it also speaks to the strength of those before us - and today - who won't hide. The only way our civilization will evolve is through necessity, which can only come through the constant and persistent presence of transpeople.

Sometimes it's scary as shit. Some of us will be hurt, some will lose their lives. So when will it end? It won't. Racially motivated crimes are still being perpetuated against people who have been fighting the battle of acceptance and integration longer than transpeople, so why should we think it will end anytime soon?

Once, I was confronted on the subway by two men. The situation became heated, and one of them tried to intimidate me by getting in my space, pushing his chest at me and threatening me. I told him to bring it, because if he was going to threaten to kill me and if he touched me, then he better be sure to kill me, because I was sure enough going to try to kill him. Maybe it was foolish of me, but in that moment, I believed it was all I had and he did back off. There may be a time I won't be that fortunate, but on that day, I was willing to face whatever came as a result of living true to myself. I can't imagine any other way to be.

I understand there are some situations and places too dangerous to be "out," but we won't be accepted if we hide. When we hide, we let those who think we are "wrong" win.

[girl_dee]

Originally Posted by Mister Bent

While I agree that attacks like these may keep some in the closet, it also speaks to the strength of those before us - and today - who won't hide. The only way our civilization will evolve is through necessity, which can only come through the constant and persistent presence of transpeople.

Sometimes it's scary as shit. Some of us will be hurt, some will lose their lives. So when will it end? It won't. Racially motivated crimes are still being perpetuated against people who have been fighting the battle of acceptance and integration longer than transpeople, so why should we think it will end anytime soon?

Once, I was confronted on the subway by two men. The situation became heated, and one of them tried to intimidate me by getting in my space, pushing his chest at me and threatening me. I told him to bring it, because if he was going to threaten to kill me and if he touched me, then he better be sure to kill me, because I was sure enough going to try to kill him. Maybe it was foolish of me, but in that moment, I believed it was all I had and he did back off. There may be a time I won't be that fortunate, but on that day, I was willing to face whatever came as a result of living true to myself. I can't imagine any other way to be.

I understand there are some situations and places too dangerous to be "out," but we won't be accepted if we hide. When we hide, we let those who think we are "wrong" win.

I should have finished my thought, which was that if we DO allow this to keep us hidden, (I don't even like using "us" here because I am not TG and have no idea what struggles they have first hand, but I do have empathy in this situation) they keep the power. This video should be enough to cause outrage. It will keep some people hidden, but I hope it doesn't!

I don't believe in giving attention to negative attention (Churches who gay bash, for example) but I believe when it is this extreme it needs to exposed to everyone.