Misogyny and Sexism in the News

BullDog · 05-08-2011, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Toughy

Besides Hilary, there was a woman staffer who was removed from the picture.....she was standing in the back

I really wish fundamentalists could understand how damamging this kind of thing is to boys and men. It tells boys/men they have no control over their own sexuality....the mere picture of a fully clothed woman (with no cleavage or arms showing) makes their dicks hard and they have go out and find a woman right now..........that is an ugly messages for boys and men.....

I agree. It also erases women from history- in this case the erasure of the Secretary of State and other woman staffer who indeed were there and part of the mission.

Martina · 05-08-2011, 08:31 PM

they must not post many pictures of world events. i am thinking i'd find it more acceptable if they said in the caption that Hillary was there, but they photoshopped her out for religious reasons. What annoys me is not the religious prohibition against images of women, but erasing women from history -- and letting hasidic women believe that only men rule the world outside theirs. i am sure they know better. They live in cities, but . . .

Soon · 05-08-2011, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Martina

they must not post many pictures of world events. i am thinking i'd find it more acceptable if they said in the caption that Hillary was there, but they photoshopped her out for religious reasons. What annoys me is not the religious prohibition against images of women, but erasing women from history -- and letting hasidic women believe that only men rule the world outside theirs. i am sure they know better. They live in cities, but . . .

hmm...it really DOES annoy me that they photoshopped her (and, apparently, another woman...nods to Toughy) out b/c of religious prohibitions against images of women AND, thereby, erasing women from history.

I am not a cultural relativist, though. (not saying you are)

Soon · 05-09-2011, 03:24 PM

INVISIBLE

Hasidic Newspaper Explains Why It Airbrushed Out Hillary Clinton

Irin Carmon — Di Tzeitung, the Hasidic newspaper that Photoshopically removed Hillary Clinton and Audrey Tomason from the famous situation room photo, has explained its actions as follows:

Our photo editor realized the significance of this historic moment, and published the picture, but in his haste he did not read the "fine print" that accompanied the picture, forbidding any changes. We should not have published the altered picture, and we have conveyed our regrets and apologies to the White House and to the State Department.

The allegations that religious Jews denigrate women or do not respect women in public office, is a malicious slander and libel. The current Secretary of State, the Honorable Hillary R. Clinton, was a Senator representing New York State with great distinction 8 years. She won overwhelming majorities in the Orthodox Jewish communities in her initial campaign in '00, and when she was re-elected in '06, because the religious community appreciated her unique capabilities and compassion to all communities. The Jewish religion does not allow for discrimination based on gender, race, etc. We respect all government officials. We even have special prayers for the welfare of our Government and the government leaders, and there is no mention of gender in such prayers.

In accord with our religious beliefs, we do not publish photos of women, which in no way relegates them to a lower status. Publishing a newspaper is a big responsibility, and our policies are guided by a Rabbinical Board. Because of laws of modesty, we are not allowed to publish pictures of women, and we regret if this gives an impression of disparaging to women, which is certainly never our intention. We apologize if this was seen as offensive.

It's not only this paper that is consistent on this front; in Israel, ultra-Orthodox papers don't publish photos of Kadima party leader Tzipi Livi, nor use her first name. In one newspaper photo, the two out of 30 cabinet ministers that happened to be female were replaced with a black hole.

Martina · 05-09-2011, 03:30 PM

God, a black hole. If that's not symbolic. . .

But i think that's better than photoshopping. i mean, say the Secy of State was there, say that whatever her name was there, and you have just removed their images. That's at least better than what seems like a lie, like pretending they weren't there.

Quintease · 05-09-2011, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow

The allegations that religious Jews denigrate women or do not respect women in public office, is a malicious slander and libel.

Because of laws of modesty, we are not allowed to publish pictures of women, and we regret if this gives an impression of disparaging to women

WTF??

They respect women SO MUCH, they can't actually discuss their achievements in the local media! *Head spin*

Martina · 05-09-2011, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Quintease

WTF??

They respect women SO MUCH, they can't actually discuss their achievements in the local media! *Head spin*

i am not sure they can't. In fact i bet they do discuss Hillary's work and did particularly when she was the U.S. Senator for New York. Didn't something we read say they had done this once before to Hillary when she was meeting with some Hasidic rabbis?

The point is the article probably talked about the Senator meeting with Rabbi So and So, etc. They just didn't show her picture.

BullDog · 05-09-2011, 03:36 PM

The pic without Hilary Clinton in it has a big, gaping hole. I guess that laptop is just sitting there for a ghost.

WTF does modesty have to do with reporting news. If you can't report news accurately then don't report it at all.

Martina · 05-09-2011, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BullDog

The pic without Hilary Clinton in it has a big, gaping hole. I guess that laptop is just sitting there for a ghost.

WTF does modesty have to do with reporting news. If you can't report news accurately then don't report it at all.

Small newspapers are ways that communities maintain themselves. They do not report all the same news or from the same perspective. i do think that photoshopping women out without making sure that their presence is noted is rewriting history without women, which is misrepresenting it. i don't defend their right to do that.

But i think that if they don't want images of women because of their religious beliefs, then they don't have to put them in. Perhaps they should just not include pictures that origninally had women. But they have to struggle with that and the criticism they receive.

i do think it's a freedom of religion issue. It's one of the things i am proudest of about the U.S. If we didn't protect freedom of religion, we would suffer because fundamentalist Christianity would overwhelm parts of our public culture, especially in some regions.

In any case, it's an important basic freedom. Way more important than the fact that you or i might be offended by what they do.

Soon · 05-14-2011, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BullDog

I agree. It also erases women from history- in this case the erasure of the Secretary of State and other woman staffer who indeed were there and part of the mission.

CITING MODESTY CONCERNS, HIPSTER WEBSITE REMOVES “SEXUALLY SUGGESTIVE” MALE IMAGES FROM SIT ROOM PHOTO

BullDog · 05-14-2011, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow

CITING MODESTY CONCERNS, HIPSTER WEBSITE REMOVES “SEXUALLY SUGGESTIVE” MALE IMAGES FROM SIT ROOM PHOTO

Yes, exactly! We don't want the women (or men

) to get overheated while reading the news!

It really is amazing the different takes you get from the edited pics.

Mister Bent · 05-20-2011, 07:48 PM

Humiliation, sexism and eugenics all rolled into one disturbing new law.

Women seeking an abortion in Texas will have to view a picture of the embryo or fetus and hear a description of its development before having the procedure, under a law that takes effect September 1.

The bill stirred some controversy in Texas, but it easily passed through the state House and Senate, both of which are controlled by Republicans. It was signed into law Thursday by Republican Gov. Rick Perry.

The law says that at least 24 hours before an abortion is performed, women must undergo a sonogram, a procedure that uses ultrasound to create an image.

The doctor, then, is required to give, "in a manner understandable to a layperson, a verbal explanation of the results of the sonogram images, including a medical description of the dimensions of the embryo or fetus, the presence of cardiac activity, and the presence of external members and internal organs," the law states.

There are some exceptions, including pregnancies that resulted from sexual assault, incest or other violations of law.

Women seeking abortions also are exempt if the fetus has been found to have an irreversible medical condition that will cause a disability.

. . .

"What no one is focusing on is that this is a mandate to humiliate women who want an abortion," said Yvonne Gutierrez, vice president for public affairs at the Planned Parenthood Trust of South Texas.

UofMfan · 05-21-2011, 05:13 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_865146.html

Soon · 05-25-2011, 05:51 PM

House Refuses To Vote On Abortion Coverage For Military Rape Victims

The House Committee on Rules blocked an amendment from going to vote on Wednesday that would have allowed military rape victims to access abortion care through their government-provided health plans.

Earlier this week, Rep. Susan Davis (D-Calif.) and five other House Democrats submitted an amendment to the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act that would reverse the current policy of denying abortion coverage to military women who are raped and become pregnant during their service. As the bill currently stands, servicewomen have to pay out of pocket for an expensive abortion procedure unless they can prove that their lives are in danger.

By contrast, other federal bans on abortion coverage, including those for Medicaid recipients, federal employees, and women in federal prisons, all include exceptions for victims of rape and incest. The ban on abortion coverage for military rape victims is actually more extreme than the Hyde Amendment, which has prohibited federally-funded abortions for the past 30 years except in the cases of rape, incest and life endangerment.

"I think it's outrageous that we have young women who are serving our country and sacrificing their lives, and if they are raped and a pregnancy happens then they cannot utilize federal resources in order to have an abortion," Rep. Davis told HuffPost. "How can we tell a servicewoman that we would provide funding for her if she were sitting in a safe office in Washington, DC, but because she's fighting for our freedom in Afghanistan we tell her no? It's just not acceptable."

Instances of rape in the armed services are alarmingly common: The Pentagon reported more than 3,000 cases in FY 2009, and the Department of Defense estimates that reported incidents only account for a small fraction of the sexual assaults that actually occur.

Davis said it is unclear exactly why the House Committee on Rules, led by Rep. David Dreier (R-Calif.), decided that the amendment did not deserve to be debated or get a vote.

"I think they just don't want this to come up," she told HuffPost, "so they used a rule to block it."

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Dreier's office did not return calls for comment.

NARAL Pro-Choice America said it was outraged by the House leadership's ongoing campaign to limit women's access to abortion care.

"Apparently Speaker John Boehner and his allies believe that women who put their lives on the line for their country should face more obstacles than women stateside when it comes to making personal, private decisions," said Nancy Keenan, president of NARAL. "It is unconscionable."

Soon · 05-28-2011, 01:20 PM

Turkish Women Advised To "Stay Home" If They Don’t Want To Be Sexually Harassed

“Do not walk around, sit in your homes,” 71-year-old Justice and Development Party, or AKP, Mayor Necmittin Dede recently told Muş representatives of the Women’s Center, or KAMER, when they told authorities that high employment in the city had resulted in men spilling out of the overcrowded teahouses in the area to verbally harass female passersby.

05-09-2011, 03:24 PM	#4
Soon Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: femme Relationship Status: attached Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: . Posts: 6,896 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 29,046 Thanked 13,094 Times in 3,386 Posts Rep Power: 21474858	Um, Ok. INVISIBLE Hasidic Newspaper Explains Why It Airbrushed Out Hillary Clinton Irin Carmon — Di Tzeitung, the Hasidic newspaper that Photoshopically removed Hillary Clinton and Audrey Tomason from the famous situation room photo, has explained its actions as follows: Our photo editor realized the significance of this historic moment, and published the picture, but in his haste he did not read the "fine print" that accompanied the picture, forbidding any changes. We should not have published the altered picture, and we have conveyed our regrets and apologies to the White House and to the State Department. The allegations that religious Jews denigrate women or do not respect women in public office, is a malicious slander and libel. The current Secretary of State, the Honorable Hillary R. Clinton, was a Senator representing New York State with great distinction 8 years. She won overwhelming majorities in the Orthodox Jewish communities in her initial campaign in '00, and when she was re-elected in '06, because the religious community appreciated her unique capabilities and compassion to all communities. The Jewish religion does not allow for discrimination based on gender, race, etc. We respect all government officials. We even have special prayers for the welfare of our Government and the government leaders, and there is no mention of gender in such prayers. In accord with our religious beliefs, we do not publish photos of women, which in no way relegates them to a lower status. Publishing a newspaper is a big responsibility, and our policies are guided by a Rabbinical Board. Because of laws of modesty, we are not allowed to publish pictures of women, and we regret if this gives an impression of disparaging to women, which is certainly never our intention. We apologize if this was seen as offensive. It's not only this paper that is consistent on this front; in Israel, ultra-Orthodox papers don't publish photos of Kadima party leader Tzipi Livi, nor use her first name. In one newspaper photo, the two out of 30 cabinet ministers that happened to be female were replaced with a black hole.

05-09-2011, 03:36 PM	#8
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05-20-2011, 07:48 PM	#12
Mister Bent Senior Member How Do You Identify?: . Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: . Posts: 2,905 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 4,151 Thanked 5,825 Times in 1,722 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	Texas law requires sonograms, explanations before abortions Humiliation, sexism and eugenics all rolled into one disturbing new law. Women seeking an abortion in Texas will have to view a picture of the embryo or fetus and hear a description of its development before having the procedure, under a law that takes effect September 1. The bill stirred some controversy in Texas, but it easily passed through the state House and Senate, both of which are controlled by Republicans. It was signed into law Thursday by Republican Gov. Rick Perry. The law says that at least 24 hours before an abortion is performed, women must undergo a sonogram, a procedure that uses ultrasound to create an image. The doctor, then, is required to give, "in a manner understandable to a layperson, a verbal explanation of the results of the sonogram images, including a medical description of the dimensions of the embryo or fetus, the presence of cardiac activity, and the presence of external members and internal organs," the law states. There are some exceptions, including pregnancies that resulted from sexual assault, incest or other violations of law. Women seeking abortions also are exempt if the fetus has been found to have an irreversible medical condition that will cause a disability. . . . "What no one is focusing on is that this is a mandate to humiliate women who want an abortion," said Yvonne Gutierrez, vice president for public affairs at the Planned Parenthood Trust of South Texas. __________________ Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

05-21-2011, 05:13 PM	#13
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05-25-2011, 05:51 PM	#14
Soon Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: femme Relationship Status: attached Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: . Posts: 6,896 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 29,046 Thanked 13,094 Times in 3,386 Posts Rep Power: 21474858	When will it stop?! House Refuses To Vote On Abortion Coverage For Military Rape Victims The House Committee on Rules blocked an amendment from going to vote on Wednesday that would have allowed military rape victims to access abortion care through their government-provided health plans. Earlier this week, Rep. Susan Davis (D-Calif.) and five other House Democrats submitted an amendment to the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act that would reverse the current policy of denying abortion coverage to military women who are raped and become pregnant during their service. As the bill currently stands, servicewomen have to pay out of pocket for an expensive abortion procedure unless they can prove that their lives are in danger. By contrast, other federal bans on abortion coverage, including those for Medicaid recipients, federal employees, and women in federal prisons, all include exceptions for victims of rape and incest. The ban on abortion coverage for military rape victims is actually more extreme than the Hyde Amendment, which has prohibited federally-funded abortions for the past 30 years except in the cases of rape, incest and life endangerment. "I think it's outrageous that we have young women who are serving our country and sacrificing their lives, and if they are raped and a pregnancy happens then they cannot utilize federal resources in order to have an abortion," Rep. Davis told HuffPost. "How can we tell a servicewoman that we would provide funding for her if she were sitting in a safe office in Washington, DC, but because she's fighting for our freedom in Afghanistan we tell her no? It's just not acceptable." Instances of rape in the armed services are alarmingly common: The Pentagon reported more than 3,000 cases in FY 2009, and the Department of Defense estimates that reported incidents only account for a small fraction of the sexual assaults that actually occur. Davis said it is unclear exactly why the House Committee on Rules, led by Rep. David Dreier (R-Calif.), decided that the amendment did not deserve to be debated or get a vote. "I think they just don't want this to come up," she told HuffPost, "so they used a rule to block it." ADVERTISEMENT Dreier's office did not return calls for comment. NARAL Pro-Choice America said it was outraged by the House leadership's ongoing campaign to limit women's access to abortion care. "Apparently Speaker John Boehner and his allies believe that women who put their lives on the line for their country should face more obstacles than women stateside when it comes to making personal, private decisions," said Nancy Keenan, president of NARAL. "It is unconscionable."

05-08-2011, 08:31 PM	#2
Martina Senior Member How Do You Identify?: * Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: * Posts: 4,999 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 13,409 Thanked 18,283 Times in 4,166 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	they must not post many pictures of world events. i am thinking i'd find it more acceptable if they said in the caption that Hillary was there, but they photoshopped her out for religious reasons. What annoys me is not the religious prohibition against images of women, but erasing women from history -- and letting hasidic women believe that only men rule the world outside theirs. i am sure they know better. They live in cities, but . . .

05-09-2011, 03:30 PM	#5
Martina Senior Member How Do You Identify?: * Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: * Posts: 4,999 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 13,409 Thanked 18,283 Times in 4,166 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	God, a black hole. If that's not symbolic. . . But i think that's better than photoshopping. i mean, say the Secy of State was there, say that whatever her name was there, and you have just removed their images. That's at least better than what seems like a lie, like pretending they weren't there.

05-28-2011, 01:20 PM	#15
Soon Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: femme Relationship Status: attached Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: . Posts: 6,896 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 29,046 Thanked 13,094 Times in 3,386 Posts Rep Power: 21474858	Turkish Women Advised To "Stay Home" If They Don’t Want To Be Sexually Harassed “Do not walk around, sit in your homes,” 71-year-old Justice and Development Party, or AKP, Mayor Necmittin Dede recently told Muş representatives of the Women’s Center, or KAMER, when they told authorities that high employment in the city had resulted in men spilling out of the overcrowded teahouses in the area to verbally harass female passersby.