I am... and I prefer the term...

The_Lady_Snow · 05-21-2011, 05:06 PM

Sorry dude, wasn't trying to make you mad, I'll bow out

DapperButch · 05-21-2011, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

Sorry dude, wasn't trying to make you mad, I'll bow out

Not mad, but thank you.

I have no problem when questions come from a genuine place of a desire for understanding. If that is where you were coming from, then it is all good.

And certainly I have no interest in you bowing out.

DapperButch · 05-21-2011, 05:13 PM

Getting offline.

If others would like to use this thread they are more than welcome.

Thanks.

Quintease · 05-21-2011, 06:06 PM

I like bio male/female as in biologically born, with no reference to the now.

I don't like cisgendered at all and I have no discernible reason for that.

I also use XX and XY, but written rather than spoken.

Linus · 05-21-2011, 06:53 PM

I'm just a transmale on hormones. I do not claim any of the other terms as I do not find they describe me well enough.

noneoftheabove · 05-21-2011, 06:53 PM

I'm third gendered and I dislike the term cisgender. The wikipedia definition: "Cisgender (or cisgendered) is an adjective used in the context of gender issues and counselling to refer to a class of gender identities formed by a match between an individual's gender identity and the behavior or role considered appropriate for one's sex.[1] I don't think we should be labeling people according to what society thinks is appropriate behavior. I find this definition particularly offensive to women.

BullDog · 05-21-2011, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by noneoftheabove

I'm third gendered and I dislike the term cisgender. The wikipedia definition: "Cisgender (or cisgendered) is an adjective used in the context of gender issues and counselling to refer to a class of gender identities formed by a match between an individual's gender identity and the behavior or role considered appropriate for one's sex.[1] I don't think we should be labeling people according to what society thinks is appropriate behavior. I find this definition particularly offensive to women.

It doesn't seem to me like anyone here would fit that definition of- an individual's gender identity matching the behavior or role considered appropriate for one's sex. How many people's gender here actually matches with what society expects of us?

And yes I agree on the woman part. The cost of conformity is high for women (as is non-conformity).

Venus007 · 05-21-2011, 07:10 PM

I am a femme and I use the term woman if they present as a woman and man if they present as a man unless they tell me they prefer some other pronoun and I use what they ask me to.

DapperButch · 05-21-2011, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by noneoftheabove

I'm third gendered and I dislike the term cisgender. The wikipedia definition: "Cisgender (or cisgendered) is an adjective used in the context of gender issues and counselling to refer to a class of gender identities formed by a match between an individual's gender identity and the behavior or role considered appropriate for one's sex.[1] I don't think we should be labeling people according to what society thinks is appropriate behavior. I find this definition particularly offensive to women.

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Originally Posted by BullDog

It doesn't seem to me like anyone here would fit that definition of- an individual's gender identity matching the behavior or role considered appropriate for one's sex. How many people's gender here actually matches with what society expects of us?

And yes I agree on the woman part. The cost of conformity is high for women (as is non-conformity).

I agree and this is also the reason why I used the term cissexed in my opening statement and the poll.

I put cisgendered in the tags because that term is often used in place of cissexed.

View Poll Results: I am a _____ and I prefer the term ______
Femme and I prefer the term cissexed	11	16.67%
Femme and I prefer the terms XY Male / XX Female	2	3.03%
Femme and I prefer the terms Bio Male/ Bio Female	20	30.30%
Female Identified Butch and I prefer the term cissexed	2	3.03%
Female Identified Butch and I prefer the terms XY Male/XX Female	1	1.52%
Female Identified Butch and I prefer the terms Bio Male/Bio Female	5	7.58%
Transgendered Butch (neither male nor female) and I prefer the term cissexed	2	3.03%
Transgendered Butch (neither male nor female) and I prefer the terms XY Male and XX Female	3	4.55%
Transgendered Butch (neither male nor female) and I prefer the terms Bio Male and Bio Female	5	7.58%
Male Identified Butch and I prefer the term transsexed	0	0%
Male Identified Butch and I prefer the terms XY Male and XX Female	0	0%
Male Identified Butch and I prefer the terms Bio Male and Bio Female	2	3.03%
Transsexed person ON hormones and prefer the term cissexed	1	1.52%
Transsexed person ON hormones and I prefer the terms XY Male and XX Female	3	4.55%
Transsexed person ON hormones and I prefer the terms Bio Male and Bio Female	5	7.58%
Transsexed person NOT on hormones and I prefer the term cissexed	1	1.52%
Transsexed person NOT on hormones and I prefer the terms XY Male and XX Female	0	0%
Transsexed person NOT on hormone and I prefer the terms Bio Male and Bio Female	3	4.55%
Voters: 66. You may not vote on this poll

05-21-2011, 05:06 PM	#1
The_Lady_Snow MILLION $$$ PUSSY How Do You Identify?: Kinky, Raw, Perverted, Uber Queer Alpha Femme Preferred Pronoun?: Iconic Ms. Relationship Status: Keeper of 3, only one has the map to my freckles Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: La Reina del Sur Posts: 22,488 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 32,231 Thanked 80,081 Times in 15,669 Posts Rep Power: 21474874	Sorry dude, wasn't trying to make you mad, I'll bow out __________________ "If you’re going to play these dirty games of ours, then you might as well indulge completely. It’s all about turning back into an animal and that’s the beauty of it. Place your guilt on the sidewalk and take a blow torch to it (guilt is usually worthless anyway). Be perverted, be filthy, do things that mannered people shouldn’t do. If you’re going to be gross then go for it and don’t wimp out."---Master Aiden

05-21-2011, 05:13 PM	#3
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05-21-2011, 06:06 PM	#4
Quintease Member How Do You Identify?: Rainbow femme Preferred Pronoun?: princess Relationship Status: Married Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 514 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 508 Thanked 1,817 Times in 417 Posts Rep Power: 10560327	I like bio male/female as in biologically born, with no reference to the now. I don't like cisgendered at all and I have no discernible reason for that. I also use XX and XY, but written rather than spoken. __________________ It is not worth an intelligent person's time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

05-21-2011, 06:53 PM	#5
Linus The Planet's Technical Bubba How Do You Identify?: FTM Preferred Pronoun?: He/Him/Geek Relationship Status: Married to my forever! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 5,440 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,929 Thanked 10,727 Times in 3,172 Posts Rep Power: 21474857	I'm just a transmale on hormones. I do not claim any of the other terms as I do not find they describe me well enough. __________________ Personal Blog \|\| [] \|\| Cigar Blog "We become Human Doings instead of Human Beings." -- Ram Dass

05-21-2011, 06:53 PM	#6
noneoftheabove Junior Member How Do You Identify?: butch Preferred Pronoun?: don't care Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: United States Posts: 8 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 17 Thanked 25 Times in 6 Posts Rep Power: 0	I'm third gendered and I dislike the term cisgender. The wikipedia definition: "Cisgender (or cisgendered) is an adjective used in the context of gender issues and counselling to refer to a class of gender identities formed by a match between an individual's gender identity and the behavior or role considered appropriate for one's sex.[1] I don't think we should be labeling people according to what society thinks is appropriate behavior. I find this definition particularly offensive to women.

05-21-2011, 07:10 PM	#8
Venus007 Member How Do You Identify?: Femme Preferred Pronoun?: Serene Highness ;} Relationship Status: Dreamily contemplating some outrage against conventional morality Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Houston area Posts: 1,362 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,417 Thanked 4,750 Times in 1,139 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	None of the above I am a femme and I use the term woman if they present as a woman and man if they present as a man unless they tell me they prefer some other pronoun and I use what they ask me to. __________________ . "I need no warrant for being, and no word of sanction upon my being. I am the warrant and the sanction. " Ayn Rand, Anthem "So you'll die happily for your sins. You'd rather die in guilt then live in love?" Timothy Leary