Vegan/Vegetarian Thread (discussion, recipes, laughs)

Dominique · 06-10-2011, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maria

I read that cucumbers got a bad rap and it was actually bean sprouts that were to blame for the food poisoning outbreak.

Good to know! I grow my own bean sprouts in a window planter box, they are quick and easy. I always have them.

Sure makes me wonder how bean sprous were carrying that nasty disease, unless it was the soil....(uuugh, I don't want to think about that)

Thanks for the info.

Greco · 06-10-2011, 06:31 AM

What a difference rest from negativity makes! The Sun was gorgeous this morning and I feel myself again

So this morning's juicing:

dandelion greens
lemon
kale
celery
apple

delicious! cool and energizing

BTW E.Coli comes from cow manure or other animal's manure

I just don't buy that sprouts and cucumbers contain manure
unless they're being washed with the contaminated water from
the factory farm next door

Off for a long hot run have a great day everyone!

Greco

Maria · 06-10-2011, 07:42 AM

Hi there, Greco.

From what I've read, the e.coli was likely in the seeds.

If you google GMO and e.coli, there's lots of info.

3,000 people have been made ill and 30 have died from the outbreak in Germany.

Of course, If you grow your own, using trustworthy seed sources, no worries.

http://www.biofortified.org/2011/06/...gene-transfer/

Greco · 06-10-2011, 02:49 PM

Key words you've given us Maria is GMO (genetically
modified organism and e. coli) so they've figured out a way to destroy Nature's most precious beginnings, the seed. Imagine that.

I won't get into it further here except to say that gmo's are present in our highly processed industrial food complex, here in the States they've gotten away with not labeling them so not the same in other countries ie., europe, asia, etc

What to do? Buy and eat organic whenever possible, and clean all veggies meats etc well before cooking.

One last thing to consider when researching these topics or any I would say is know who is giving you the info

Like, what do you think a gmo funded media would tell you?

Thanks Maria for your links for people to check out

Greco

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maria

Hi there, Greco.

From what I've read, the e.coli was likely in the seeds.

If you google GMO and e.coli, there's lots of info.

3,000 people have been made ill and 30 have died from the outbreak in Germany.

Of course, If you grow your own, using trustworthy seed sources, no worries.

http://www.biofortified.org/2011/06/...gene-transfer/

Greco · 06-10-2011, 03:07 PM

FYI:

one hour in-depth learning

sad but true

Greco

Greco · 06-10-2011, 03:14 PM

The documentary "Food, Inc" for those interested

you can find it on youtube

Greco

Dominique · 06-10-2011, 04:25 PM

I worked too long, didn't eat enough and have a low grade head ache.....

I have to whip up a green shake....be back shortly

Maria · 06-10-2011, 04:57 PM

Re. Europe and GMOs -- I may be wrong about this but I read (in a "non-GMO funded" source I can't recall right now) that organic farms in Europe may purchase and use GMO seeds just as conventional farms do. So in practice, while the organic process may protect vegetables from acquiring topical e.coli, the seed may already be contaminated by GMO injection methods.

Food, Inc. is a great flick. Another good resource to look at is Michael Pollan's writing, especially Omnivore's Dilemma and In Defense of Food. He has lots of smart stuff to say about genetic engineering, the food industrial complex, it's origins in politics, what it's done to the American way of eating, and the havoc it's wreaked on our health. I really can't recommend his books enough.

Sorry for the derail-ishness.

I'd like to write more but I have to run while I'm still motivated.

Dominique · 06-10-2011, 05:06 PM

Thats not a derail, thats great information that we (those that read this thread) would like to know about. Thank you for posting it.

Hope you had a great run.

Greco, did you havea great half day off?

Greco · 06-10-2011, 05:45 PM

Today's long run was intense hot humid

I happen to do well in this type of heat
but not in running so late

In any case did my run with tons of H2O

then came home and made after work out
smoothie:

protein powder
berry powder
Kale
carrots
apple
lemon
tofu

Tonight having more H2O with lemon

Have a good evening everyone

Greco

06-10-2011, 06:31 AM	#2
Greco Senior Member How Do You Identify?: GNC, not Trans, REAL. TIME. ONLY. Preferred Pronoun?: REAL. TIME. ONLY. Relationship Status: REAL. TIME. ONLY. Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: In a good life. Posts: 3,200 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 11,160 Thanked 6,616 Times in 2,285 Posts Rep Power: 0	Sun What a difference rest from negativity makes! The Sun was gorgeous this morning and I feel myself again So this morning's juicing: dandelion greens lemon kale celery apple delicious! cool and energizing BTW E.Coli comes from cow manure or other animal's manure I just don't buy that sprouts and cucumbers contain manure unless they're being washed with the contaminated water from the factory farm next door Off for a long hot run have a great day everyone! Greco

06-10-2011, 07:42 AM	#3
Maria Member How Do You Identify?: Regular, with sugar Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: . Posts: 681 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 472 Thanked 1,333 Times in 501 Posts Rep Power: 21474852	Hi there, Greco. From what I've read, the e.coli was likely in the seeds. If you google GMO and e.coli, there's lots of info. 3,000 people have been made ill and 30 have died from the outbreak in Germany. Of course, If you grow your own, using trustworthy seed sources, no worries. http://www.biofortified.org/2011/06/...gene-transfer/ Last edited by Maria; 06-10-2011 at 07:44 AM. Reason: added link

06-10-2011, 03:07 PM	#5
Greco Senior Member How Do You Identify?: GNC, not Trans, REAL. TIME. ONLY. Preferred Pronoun?: REAL. TIME. ONLY. Relationship Status: REAL. TIME. ONLY. Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: In a good life. Posts: 3,200 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 11,160 Thanked 6,616 Times in 2,285 Posts Rep Power: 0	Dr Shiva an activist for her country and the planet FYI: one hour in-depth learning sad but true Greco

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Greco Senior Member How Do You Identify?: GNC, not Trans, REAL. TIME. ONLY. Preferred Pronoun?: REAL. TIME. ONLY. Relationship Status: REAL. TIME. ONLY. Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: In a good life. Posts: 3,200 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 11,160 Thanked 6,616 Times in 2,285 Posts Rep Power: 0	Food, Inc trailer The documentary "Food, Inc" for those interested you can find it on youtube Greco

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Dominique Member How Do You Identify?: Female/Lesbian/half the athlete I used to be Preferred Pronoun?: she/her Relationship Status: Dates Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: So proud to be a Pittsburgher Posts: 1,484 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,645 Thanked 3,730 Times in 1,166 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	I worked too long, didn't eat enough and have a low grade head ache..... I have to whip up a green shake....be back shortly __________________ As long as there was coffee in the world, how bad could things be??

06-10-2011, 04:57 PM	#8
Maria Member How Do You Identify?: Regular, with sugar Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: . Posts: 681 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 472 Thanked 1,333 Times in 501 Posts Rep Power: 21474852	Re. Europe and GMOs -- I may be wrong about this but I read (in a "non-GMO funded" source I can't recall right now) that organic farms in Europe may purchase and use GMO seeds just as conventional farms do. So in practice, while the organic process may protect vegetables from acquiring topical e.coli, the seed may already be contaminated by GMO injection methods. Food, Inc. is a great flick. Another good resource to look at is Michael Pollan's writing, especially Omnivore's Dilemma and In Defense of Food. He has lots of smart stuff to say about genetic engineering, the food industrial complex, it's origins in politics, what it's done to the American way of eating, and the havoc it's wreaked on our health. I really can't recommend his books enough. Sorry for the derail-ishness. I'd like to write more but I have to run while I'm still motivated.

06-10-2011, 05:06 PM	#9
Dominique Member How Do You Identify?: Female/Lesbian/half the athlete I used to be Preferred Pronoun?: she/her Relationship Status: Dates Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: So proud to be a Pittsburgher Posts: 1,484 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,645 Thanked 3,730 Times in 1,166 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	Thats not a derail, thats great information that we (those that read this thread) would like to know about. Thank you for posting it. Hope you had a great run. Greco, did you havea great half day off? __________________ As long as there was coffee in the world, how bad could things be??

06-10-2011, 05:45 PM	#10
Greco Senior Member How Do You Identify?: GNC, not Trans, REAL. TIME. ONLY. Preferred Pronoun?: REAL. TIME. ONLY. Relationship Status: REAL. TIME. ONLY. Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: In a good life. Posts: 3,200 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 11,160 Thanked 6,616 Times in 2,285 Posts Rep Power: 0	long run Today's long run was intense hot humid I happen to do well in this type of heat but not in running so late In any case did my run with tons of H2O then came home and made after work out smoothie: protein powder berry powder Kale carrots apple lemon tofu Tonight having more H2O with lemon Have a good evening everyone Greco