Same-Sex Marriage Update

[UofMfan]

Our Next Marriage Equality Fight: Repealing DOMA

Well said Senator Gillibrand!

[Toughy]

Originally Posted by UofMfan

Our Next Marriage Equality Fight: Repealing DOMA

Well said Senator Gillibrand!

In Senator Gillibrand's article she says DADT has been repealed. It has NOT. The White House and the Pentagon must certify the military is ready to repeal DADT. They have only begun training and still have months to go. It is my understanding you can still be discharged under DADT>

[UofMfan]

Originally Posted by Toughy

In Senator Gillibrand's article she says DADT has been repealed. It has NOT. The White House and the Pentagon must certify the military is ready to repeal DADT. They have only begun training and still have months to go. It is my understanding you can still be discharged under DADT>

Unless my English comprehension is failing me, and it can happen I am not a native North American, in the context of the article she does not say it has been repealed, but rather infers that Congress did the work with DADT (and they did since as you stated it needs certification by the White House and the Pentagon) and it should do the same work with DOMA. I think she is speaking about Congress, being that she is a Senator.

Of course that is my opinion based on reading the article.

[AtLast]

Congrats to New York!

More and more I am considering moving to one of the states in the US that represents full citizenship. As I age, and even though I doubt I will ever legally marry, I find that it is getting more and more difficult to accept second class citizenship in my own country and state. Hopefully, here in CA, the appeals decision will be upheld on Prop 8 and same-sex marraige becomes legal once and for all (there is a pun within a pun in there)!

I don't want to die living somewhere that does recognize me a a full citizen. I really don't. I am so damn tired of this.

[tessie]

I am happy about living in NY. I have been here for almost 9 years now . In my home state WV, I doubt gay marriage will ever be legal. Its a wonderful thing to not be a second class citizen . It really made me think about rights,yesterday when I heard. It took all of these years ,of being an American to finally be equal. Its pretty staggering if you think about it . Only 6 states are equal , I wonder how many more years before any others are even close. I am very thankful for all the people who fought for these rights , they are the real heros.

My partner and I have discussed marriage several times ,over the past 9 years. It always came down to us wanting to wait until we could, right here in our state. So now we are discussing the whens and wheres etc. Just to think before the end of the year , I will be married . It kinda blows my mind

[iamkeri1]

Tessie,
I am so happy you have gained this right at last. I wish much joy to you and your partner in your future marriage. Congratulations!



Smooches,
Keri

Originally Posted by tessie

I am happy about living in NY. I have been here for almost 9 years now . In my home state WV, I doubt gay marriage will ever be legal. Its a wonderful thing to not be a second class citizen . It really made me think about rights,yesterday when I heard. It took all of these years ,of being an American to finally be equal. Its pretty staggering if you think about it . Only 6 states are equal , I wonder how many more years before any others are even close. I am very thankful for all the people who fought for these rights , they are the real heros.

My partner and I have discussed marriage several times ,over the past 9 years. It always came down to us wanting to wait until we could, right here in our state. So now we are discussing the whens and wheres etc. Just to think before the end of the year , I will be married . It kinda blows my mind

[UofMfan]

[Abigail Crabby]

CONGRATULATIONS NY

Well this flows right into my fantasy Wedding at the top of the Empire State building.

After being proposed to at a Red Sox/Yankee Game.
( yes I'm cheesy)
lol

Yes honey you read that right

[chefhottie25]

what a great day for queer new yorkers

[iamkeri1]

Originally Posted by AtLastHome

I don't want to die living somewhere that does recognize me a a full citizen. I really don't. I am so damn tired of this.

ALH
I have said exactly the same thing over the last few years since Florida banned domestic partnerships both for gay and hetero people in the last presidential election cycle.

My mother was a Canadian citizen. I have dual citizenship and have many times considered a move to Canada, where most of my remaining family still lives, and where I would gain not only full citizenship, but national health insurance. My weak excuse for not making this move is my unwillingness to return to cold weather. Seeking a warmer weather solution, I have researched Cali's domestic partnership act. It's wording reserves domestic partnership to same-sex couples, and promises all rights designated and accruing to hetero couples in a hetero marriage. I don't know if this is actually the practice, I only know what I have read. This partnership is so much better than anything available in Florida. While it is not "marriage" it is at least a legally recognized relationship, so I've been seriously considering a return to CA. Kind of chicken-shit on my part, but like you I have no immmediate plans for marriage. Yet whether or not we choose to marry, we should have that right.

As Mister Bent says "what does matter to me is equal protection under the law and the right to do dumb shit just like anyone else. End the marginalization."

Smooches.
Keri

[Lynn]

I remember being a college student in the late 70's, demonstrating at the legislature for gay rights. What a long way we've come. I can hardly believe it! I did wake up feeling like it was a different world today. Of course, it isn't over yet. Most states do not recognize marriage equality, and there is still DOMA. I worry a little about the possibility of repeal. That doesn't look likely, but you never know.

My partner and I have been planning an October commitment ceremony. The invitations are already printed! Now we are considering the idea of a legal marriage. I'm glad that we *can* get married, but I'm not sure how I feel about it. I was previously married, for 20 years. The marriage wasn't so great, and the divorce was traumatic. I haven't been anxious to add that layer of complexity to a perfectly good relationship.

On the other hand, now that it's actually possible, it's easier for me to think about how we could make it work for us and our needs. Interesting how the mind works.

[iamkeri1]

Yes, Just because a right is available to you does not mean you have to use it. Do what is best for each of you and the two of you as a couple. This legal development will, for you, provide an opportunity to evaluate the depth of your commitment, or at least the type of committment you will choose to make. Congratulations to you both. Be happy
Smooches,
Keri

Originally Posted by Lynn

I remember being a college student in the late 70's, demonstrating at the legislature for gay rights. What a long way we've come. I can hardly believe it! I did wake up feeling like it was a different world today. Of course, it isn't over yet. Most states do not recognize marriage equality, and there is still DOMA. I worry a little about the possibility of repeal. That doesn't look likely, but you never know.

My partner and I have been planning an October commitment ceremony. The invitations are already printed! Now we are considering the idea of a legal marriage. I'm glad that we *can* get married, but I'm not sure how I feel about it. I was previously married, for 20 years. The marriage wasn't so great, and the divorce was traumatic. I haven't been anxious to add that layer of complexity to a perfectly good relationship.

On the other hand, now that it's actually possible, it's easier for me to think about how we could make it work for us and our needs. Interesting how the mind works.