BASEBALL!

[Kobi]

Originally Posted by Yellow band

Yes, you beat us on two errors, a pop fly tag up and a fielders choice. Thats how all four of your runs were scored. But, as is the case in baseball. The better team prevailed. You guys also had 2 errors. And left 8 runners on base. It could have been much worse. We'll take two out of three from one of the best teams in baseball. Your fan's pumped 4 million dollars into our economy in three days (thank you for that) tickets, hotel rooms, parking, eating out, buying things ect... and I found every one I came in contact with to be genuinely nice people who, just like me, love baseball.

I completely missed what happened to Tabata. Your pitcher came off the mound to field the ball, and the third baseman came over and somehow their legs became entangled and they layed motionless on the field. Then I looked over at first, when I saw Hurdle running out and saw Tabata laying
on the field. They gave us an update, it's a quad related injury.

We got another catcher (?) This was a super weekend, if you love baseball. Sold out on a Sunday!. I don't think that has happened in 10 years.

Alarm Kat is sleeping. I think I am going to go to bed too. We head to Toronto and I will be Jonesing it for baseball, as they are away until the fourth of july. No inside out Shirts today!......(and no ice cream)

4 million in 3 days? Wow. Great baseball AND an economic boost AND a sold out stadium.

Maybe Pittsburgh is beginning to believe in their guys again.

[Dominique]

Originally Posted by Kobi

4 million in 3 days? Wow. Great baseball AND an economic boost AND a sold out stadium. That figure came from the news, via the Pgh Visitor and Convention Center, and yes attendance was just shy of 112,000 (never has it been more) for three games

Maybe Pittsburgh is beginning to believe in their guys again.
I tried to get into all three Sports and Gear shops at the ball park (I wanted a Jolly Roger flag/ skull and cross bones)...and the stores were so packed I couldn't get in. My sweetie was *thrilled* because as you may have already summized, I carry only my purse....hy gets to drag all the other crap.....

And yes, we die hard fans call them band wagon fans, that would be all the ones buying pirate hats and shirts all week end to make it look like they've been a fan....forever....so I'll have to get my Jolly Roger flag while the Buc's are away

[AtLast]

We swept the Indians!! WOOT!! On another winning streak, but damn, we need some consistent hitting. Every game is a 1 or 2 run win only.

I love this thread- I'm starting to watch for other team stats and learn about other players, etc. that the rest of you are posting about so I can follow your team's standings. This will come in handy following the All Stars game and the play-offs. I'll have other teams to root for if the Giants don't end up back in.

OK, so I need to follow the Pirates, the Tigers, and the Red Sox for sure.... and study them up! Hey, as the play-offs get closer, other members will be posting (yanno, not the "real" baseball fanatics, ;?), those that don't follow the game all season) and I will have some savy about these other teams earlier on!!! Great! I really miss both my parents, one sister and my brother that I talked, maybe "lived" baseball with as a kid and young adulthood. Baseball loving family from way back.

Kind of fun that my older sister has actually gotten interested in it the last couple of years as she was never into any kind of athletics, to participate in or follow ever even within our family of sports nuts. Too bad she doesn't live close- but she and her husband have started going to AZ in the winter (they are in their 70s & 80's) and go to watch Spring training, so she has become interested. Cracks me up because our parents in retirement loved taking off in their truck and travel trailer to AZ every year to follow teams in Spring training as well as fish along the way at camping/RV areas- especially any near casinos!!

Yup, Corkey, America's favorite pastime!! You, betcha'!!!

[Dominique]

[QUOTE=AtLastHome;366608]We swept the Indians!! WOOT!!

The Indians are my second favorite team.....That Bumgarner took us all by surprise with 11 K's. I never heard of him before last week, when he pitched 2/3 of an inning and gave up what (?) 9 hits/8 runs. Sorry for my Indians. They also are a small market team, with a low payroll and nothing great about them, just fundamental baseball. They started out very well, and now....they are struggeling. They had 16 strike outs. I think that is a major problem!

I hate to say it Atlast, I really stopped paying attention to the Giants because of Barry-Roid-Bonds. He disgraced baseball. Just my opinion. (also a former pirate)

[AtLast]

[quote=Yellow band;366610]

Originally Posted by AtLastHome

We swept the Indians!! WOOT!!

The Indians are my second favorite team.....That Bumgarner took us all by surprise with 11 K's. I never heard of him before last week, when he pitched 2/3 of an inning and gave up what (?) 9 hits/8 runs. Sorry for my Indians. They also are a small market team, with a low payroll and nothing great about them, just fundamental baseball. They started out very well, and now....they are struggeling. They had 16 strike outs. I think that is a major problem!

I hate to say it Atlast, I really stopped paying attention to the Giants because of Barry-Roid-Bonds. He disgraced baseball. Just my opinion. (also a former pirate)

Oh, Bumgarner's mess with that twins game was a very unusual game for him. Poor guy. He is quite a pitcher all around. Even Lincecum went through a slump for awhile- all players do. I was glad to see Bumgarner get his stuff back- Isshhh... the Twins in that game hit everything he threw!! My jaw dropped to the floor because I have followed him (rookie last year and a big part of the Giants winning the WS).

Oh, Bonds was hard to take as a long time Giants fan. Yes, he disgraced the team and the game. Still is as far as I'm concerned. I do remember him early on when he first started out, but he became a primadonna fast and then the steroids. I guess it is kind of like die-hard Reds fans and dealing with Pete Rose- the team is not one player. I could smack Bonds and when he is at a home game, I wish they didn't even put him on the camera.

I have been watching the Giants since they arrived in SF in the 1950's (yup, I was 7 or 8 when they moved here from NY= my parents courted by going to see them back in new York before that). Been with them through thick and thin and Bonds and won't leave them due to one ass.

Probably the most rewarding thing about the team since Bonds left is that it is a team again, no stand out stars really. I love that about them even though there are a few players that I guess are top in the entire league- but there are those players on every team. It made my heart fly to see a bunch of scruffy guys out there last year working together, none of which was a super star and playing together. many are still on the team, but not all. But, the "style" of the ball club is very much post-Bonds and "lets not let the Bonds era take us down." There is a lot of sensitivity about him here and what he did and the pandering to his conceited, superficial self. I guess as an earlier player, the guy did have talent, but I remember him looking like he only needed to hit home runs and that was it. The guy moved like a snail in the out field and at times it looked like he felt like he didn't have to do his job other than hit balls and that he was the only reason the Giants ever won a game. The guy was good enough to be a great hitter actually without steroids- and look at all of the "star" players throughout the MLB that have been nailed for using them. Thinking of Mike McGwire, too. It is sad, but bonds is not the only one.
I never thought his defensive play was all that great.

I hate having my team associated with Bonds but have to remember other greats that were nothing like him like Willie Mays, Will Clark, Urebe, Willie McCovey, and Juan Marichal to name a few.

Gotta stick with my team, but there are some other players out there on other teams that I love to watch, too.

[Dominique]

[quote=AtLastHome;366632]

Originally Posted by Yellow band

. The guy was good enough to be a great hitter actually without steroids- and look at all of the "star" players throughout the MLB that have been nailed for using them. Thinking of Mike McGwire, too. It is sad, but bonds is not the only one.
I never thought his defensive play was all that great.

I hate having my team associated with Bonds but have to remember other greats that were nothing like him like Willie Mays, Will Clark, Urebe, Willie McCovey, and Juan Marichal to name a few.

Gotta stick with my team, but there are some other players out there on other teams that I love to watch, too.

A very public moment in Pittsburgh was the spring training confrontation Jim Leyland had with Bonds, as you said *primadonna* and Leyland got in his face and screamed *I'm tired of kissing your ass* Bonds was traded at the end of that season. Mark McGuire, even more disgusting than Barry- Roid, is in a coaching position some where in baseball. After being on television and adamently denying any involvement of steroid use.......I was also very turned off on Baseball after the *strike*, it took years for it, (the sport) to recover from that.

We have a very young and extremely talented center fielder named Andrew McCutchen. Last I looked, he wasn't in the running for the All star Bid, and thats a shame, as he is outstanding. He runs, Bats and throws. Some have said he is a reminder of a young Barry Bonds......I hate to say being good, when he was young (barry-roid) went to his head.....but will end on a pun. Did you ever notice the disproportionate size of his head near the end of his playing days?

[AtLast]

[quote=Yellow band;366668]

Originally Posted by AtLastHome

A very public moment in Pittsburgh was the spring training confrontation Jim Leyland had with Bonds, as you said *primadonna* and Leyland got in his face and screamed *I'm tired of kissing your ass* Bonds was traded at the end of that season. Mark McGuire, even more disgusting than Barry- Roid, is in a coaching position some where in baseball. After being on television and adamently denying any involvement of steroid use.......I was also very turned off on Baseball after the *strike*, it took years for it, (the sport) to recover from that.

We have a very young and extremely talented center fielder named Andrew McCutchen. Last I looked, he wasn't in the running for the All star Bid, and thats a shame, as he is outstanding. He runs, Bats and throws. Some have said he is a reminder of a young Barry Bonds......I hate to say being good, when he was young (barry-roid) went to his head.....but will end on a pun. Did you ever notice the disproportionate size of his head near the end of his playing days?

Yes, Bonds really stands out when you see footage of him pre-roids. I did see him play in SF then a few times at the park and later- why the hell his use didn't get discussed much earlier is amazing. I just hope the hell that he (and many others) didn't mess up their hearts and we hear of early deaths.

Mainly, I want to see the raw talent and love of the game for the game out there. Baseball is really a game of athletic ability and strategy that takes brains to be good at it. I really appreciate watching how managers know their guy's strengths and how and when to use this on the field to try and score or defend.

[Kobi]

Originally Posted by AtLastHome

Oh, Bumgarner's mess with that twins game was a very unusual game for him. Poor guy. He is quite a pitcher all around. Even Lincecum went through a slump for awhile- all players do. I was glad to see Bumgarner get his stuff back- Isshhh... the Twins in that game hit everything he threw!! My jaw dropped to the floor because I have followed him (rookie last year and a big part of the Giants winning the WS).

Oh, Bonds was hard to take as a long time Giants fan. Yes, he disgraced the team and the game. Still is as far as I'm concerned. I do remember him early on when he first started out, but he became a primadonna fast and then the steroids. I guess it is kind of like die-hard Reds fans and dealing with Pete Rose- the team is not one player. I could smack Bonds and when he is at a home game, I wish they didn't even put him on the camera.

I have been watching the Giants since they arrived in SF in the 1950's (yup, I was 7 or 8 when they moved here from NY= my parents courted by going to see them back in new York before that). Been with them through thick and thin and Bonds and won't leave them due to one ass.

Probably the most rewarding thing about the team since Bonds left is that it is a team again, no stand out stars really. I love that about them even though there are a few players that I guess are top in the entire league- but there are those players on every team. It made my heart fly to see a bunch of scruffy guys out there last year working together, none of which was a super star and playing together. many are still on the team, but not all. But, the "style" of the ball club is very much post-Bonds and "lets not let the Bonds era take us down." There is a lot of sensitivity about him here and what he did and the pandering to his conceited, superficial self. I guess as an earlier player, the guy did have talent, but I remember him looking like he only needed to hit home runs and that was it. The guy moved like a snail in the out field and at times it looked like he felt like he didn't have to do his job other than hit balls and that he was the only reason the Giants ever won a game. The guy was good enough to be a great hitter actually without steroids- and look at all of the "star" players throughout the MLB that have been nailed for using them. Thinking of Mike McGwire, too. It is sad, but bonds is not the only one.
I never thought his defensive play was all that great.

I hate having my team associated with Bonds but have to remember other greats that were nothing like him like Willie Mays, Will Clark, Urebe, Willie McCovey, and Juan Marichal to name a few.

Gotta stick with my team, but there are some other players out there on other teams that I love to watch, too.

I never got to see Bonds play even on tv, but what you describe sounds very much like what we went thru here in Boston with Manny Ramirez. The press used to call it "Manny being Manny". First it seemed like a personality thing but then when he was fluffing in the outfield and on the bases and claiming he was hurt but refusing tests, it got very distracting in the clubhouse and brought down the morale of the team.

The players showed themselves to be a class act when they refused to address the problem publicly. But there was a very noticeable change on the field once he was traded to the Dodgers.

And then Manny tested positive for banned substances in LA and was suspended for much of the season. He was never the same player again. He was good in his day but was it talent or substances? Is there a way to distinguish between the two?

Seems a lot of old timers are having problems this year i.e. Dunne, Guerrero, Abreu, Posada.....is it age?

I love watching these new guys...Jemile Weeks of the Athletics is on my radar for my fantasy team. Very fast, good base stealing stats.

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by Kobi

I never got to see Bonds play even on tv, but what you describe sounds very much like what we went thru here in Boston with Manny Ramirez. The press used to call it "Manny being Manny". First it seemed like a personality thing but then when he was fluffing in the outfield and on the bases and claiming he was hurt but refusing tests, it got very distracting in the clubhouse and brought down the morale of the team.

The players showed themselves to be a class act when they refused to address the problem publicly. But there was a very noticeable change on the field once he was traded to the Dodgers.

And then Manny tested positive for banned substances in LA and was suspended for much of the season. He was never the same player again. He was good in his day but was it talent or substances? Is there a way to distinguish between the two?

Seems a lot of old timers are having problems this year i.e. Dunne, Guerrero, Abreu, Posada.....is it age?

I love watching these new guys...Jemile Weeks of the Athletics is on my radar for my fantasy team. Very fast, good base stealing stats.

You are right on. The "talent v. substances" question will always cloud any achievement players like Bonds have. Really sad when you think about all the players, old and new that are so good at playing and really work hard to play their best.

I so agree about some of the new guys out there. Weeks is going to be a good one I think, too. He not only has speed, he has hands! Seems comfortable out there and yes, he might be one of the greats in progress. I like it that he and one of my other favorite rookies, Crawford are both with Bay Area teams. I'll be able to watch them a lot.

Although, I'm a die-hard Giants fan, I miss Tony La Russa as the A's manager here. He is just a good human being. His support for his daughter and standing up about date rape a few years ago, plus his work for shelter animals puts him in my way good guy column.

The giant organization this season during Pride Month has also backed the Glenn Burke story of being a gay player (as well as POC). http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...rke/index.html. Kudos to the organization!

Hey- who are some of the other rookie year players that interest us? It would be fun to see who other posters are watching.