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Old 07-04-2011, 10:26 AM   #1
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The child should not have to suffer for the fathers relationship in public. However the adult has every right to his relationship. I think someone should talk to the adult about it, but really it is no ones business what the adults do, but the child should not have to be involved if the child doesn't want to be.
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The child should not have to suffer for the fathers relationship in public. However the adult has every right to his relationship. I think someone should talk to the adult about it, but really it is no ones business what the adults do, but the child should not have to be involved if the child doesn't want to be.
The father has already told Nick and us that it's a packaged deal. Nick's mother has custody and she is not aware of the situation.
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Bingo! Mom needs to know..... Ever hear the saying, "if momma ain't happy ain't nobody happy"?
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The father has already told Nick and us that it's a packaged deal. Nick's mother has custody and she is not aware of the situation.

There would be your answer then, yes?
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If his father isn't open to discussion about it, then maybe it would be good to offer to have him spend more time with Aunts Red and Okiebug. Just having other role models and an opportunity for venting and asking questions may help mitigate some of the discomfort or trauma he may be experiencing.
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Nick might need counseling or even family counseling to help him/them work thru the issues he is obviously facing. Depending on how he absorbs and accepts these issues, he could easily be headed down a self destructive path in the future. The various ways children act out in response to things going on in their lives can make for an ugly experience transitioning from preteen and all of its pressures and peer pressure to teen to young adult with unresolved issues.

If I were the custodial parent, I certainly would want to know. At least it would give me the chance to talk to him and to the noncustodial parent and see if we could work out something in the best interest of the child.
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I think his mom should know. I think Red should tell her brother he as a certain amount of time to tell Nick's mom what is going on or she is going to tell him. I think her biggest fear right now is not getting to see Nick!

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I think his mom should know. I think Red should tell her brother he as a certain amount of time to tell Nick's mom what is going on or she is going to tell him. I think her biggest fear right now is not getting to see Nick!

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why would she not get to see him?? if its ok to ask
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To me, this has very little to do with anyone's personal ID and everything to do with what is appropriate, or rather inappropriate in this case, behavior to display in front of a 12 year old.

It's one thing for a person to say that they are staying true to their personal ID and proudly displaying that for the world to see but something completely different when that ID impacts a child. It takes it to yet another completely different level when the people involved are actually raising the child and not just walking past them on the street.

Claiming that a 12 year old is just going to have to deal with it, is so beyond wrong that I really don't even have words for it.

Although, I'd be happy to go for hours about the long term affects of the "dealing" options.
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To those that find this situation offensive:

How is this any different than people who are offended by gay parenting and how much that is harmful to the children?

The idea of a Transgendered Furry Slave makes me go yewwww but I fail to see how this is anymore harmful for the child than other things parents do.

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To those that find this situation offensive:

How is this any different than people who are offended by gay parenting and how much that is harmful to the children?

The idea of a Transgendered Furry Slave makes me go yewwww but I fail to see how this is anymore harmful for the child than other things parents do.

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Andrea - Do you really not see a difference between exposing a sexual kink to a 12 year old and gay parents raising children?
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To me, this has very little to do with anyone's personal ID and everything to do with what is appropriate, or rather inappropriate in this case, behavior to display in front of a 12 year old.

It's one thing for a person to say that they are staying true to their personal ID and proudly displaying that for the world to see but something completely different when that ID impacts a child. It takes it to yet another completely different level when the people involved are actually raising the child and not just walking past them on the street.

Claiming that a 12 year old is just going to have to deal with it, is so beyond wrong that I really don't even have words for it.

Although, I'd be happy to go for hours about the long term affects of the "dealing" options.
Well said!

Some refs for folks- take your pick- concerning if this has a kink/fetish sexual theme in terms of exposure to a minor and appropriate boundaries with kids and adults.

http://www.bing.com/search?q=furry+t...ox&FORM=IE8SRC
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I think his mom should know. I think Red should tell her brother he as a certain amount of time to tell Nick's mom what is going on or she is going to tell him. I think her biggest fear right now is not getting to see Nick!

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Personally, I don't think he should be given a warning. I'd just call the mom and tell her. If you wanted to see your nephew then I'd just call the mom and ask if you could see him, I'm sure she'd respect ya'll more for coming straight to her with the info and would allow ya'll to see him because she would know ya'll had his best interests at heart. No child should be subjected to their parents/caregivers kink and sexual fetishes, it is abusive at best. A child should not have their sexual identities shaped by their parents, this is something a child should explore and define for themselves just like we all did.
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For me it is offensive because the father is not respecting his child. Just because he wants to live his kink, it doesn't give him the right to force his child to live it with him. That is child abuse.
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Personally, I don't think he should be given a warning. I'd just call the mom and tell her. If you wanted to see your nephew then I'd just call the mom and ask if you could see him, I'm sure she'd respect ya'll more for coming straight to her with the info and would allow ya'll to see him because she would know ya'll had his best interests at heart. No child should be subjected to their parents/caregivers kink and sexual fetishes, it is abusive at best. A child should not have their sexual identities shaped by their parents, this is something a child should explore and define for themselves just like we all did.
i agree with you if they have not already done so, they need to contact the mother and let her know what's going on.

No child should be exposed to their parents' sexual anything...it's creepy at 12 and still creepy at 51. Obviously this father and the g/f have some maturity issues if they cannot reel it in and keep things private. If g/f must wear her collar and tail in public...we all know there are smaller collars and locks and as for the tail, i am fairly certain there is a discreet way for wearing that in public as well...
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i agree with you if they have not already done so, they need to contact the mother and let her know what's going on.

No child should be exposed to their parents' sexual anything...it's creepy at 12 and still creepy at 51. Obviously this father and the g/f have some maturity issues if they cannot reel it in and keep things private. If g/f must wear her collar and tail in public...we all know there are smaller collars and locks and as for the tail, i am fairly certain there is a discreet way for wearing that in public as well...
I still do not see where Okie has stated the child has been exposed to anything sexual. Where was that stated? Is it being assumed due to a belief that furrie = sexual and therefore the child must know what is going on?
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