Casey Anthony - guilty, or not?

purepisces · 07-05-2011, 11:41 AM

In situations like this I've heard that a short deliberation often means a guilty verdict. However, to me, it seems like they would have given more consideration if they were going to recommend the death penalty.

I had wondered if there would be a hung jury, because in jury selection, juror 4 said that she did not feel that she could judge someone. But, she must have found a way, because it would take quite some time to admit that they couldn't come to a decision.

I feel strange right now. I've followed this case on HLN since right after Caylee was reported missing three years ago. I've dvr'd the trial and watched it every night (I know, I need to get a life). It is hard for me to separate all the things I've heard from the media over that time and the evidence that was actually presented in court.

girl_dee · 07-05-2011, 11:52 AM

Verdict is in.. . Finally.

NJFemmie · 07-05-2011, 11:59 AM

That live feed link I provided seems to not be working now for some odd reason so here are alternates:

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusive...ar-live-stream

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/03/casey-anthony-trial-live-video_n_889522.html

Verdict to be read at 2:15

JustJo · 07-05-2011, 12:06 PM

I've always heard that a fast verdict is a guilty verdict...although I'm not sure how the actual statistics stack up.

I doubt they'd return with a recommendation for death that fast in any case, though....so I'm guessing guilty, but no death penalty recommendation.

We'll see...

Gráinne · 07-05-2011, 12:07 PM

I shouldn't be watching this either, but CNN is live from Orlando.

purepisces · 07-05-2011, 12:20 PM

Not guilty except for lying to police.

scootebaby · 07-05-2011, 12:22 PM

OMG!!!! they pulled it off....im even surprised that child abuse wasnt at least guilty..UNREAL!!!!!!

Medusa · 07-05-2011, 12:23 PM

WOW.

Scorp · 07-05-2011, 12:24 PM

Verdict: Not guilty of first degree murder

Only guilty of providing false info to law enforcement which she will be sentenced this thursday at 9 AM EST.

Nice, real nice...got away scott fuckin' free. I hope she's haunted by her little girl the rest of her life.

It will be a matter of time when she poses in Playboy and gets some celebrity status out of this.

This is a fuckin' shame. Karma is a bitch Casey.....Now don't forget to go and party it up and rejoice while your baby girl was just tossed out like garbage..I hope you get paid back....

Peach · 07-05-2011, 12:25 PM

I'm as shocked as I was when OJ Simpson was found not guilty. What kid of sentence can she get for the false info verdict?

NJFemmie · 07-05-2011, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorp

Verdict: Not guilty of first degree murder

Only guilty of providing false info to law enforcement which she will be sentenced this thursday at 9 AM EST.

Nice, real nice...got away scott fuckin' free. I hope she's haunted by her little girl the rest of her life.

It will be a matter of time when she poses in Playboy and gets some celebrity status out of this.

This is a fuckin' shame. Karma is a bitch Casey.....Now don't forget to go and party it up and rejoice while your baby girl was just tossed out like garbage..I hope you get paid back....

Sadly, she won't feel any remorse - she hasn't so far.

cinderella · 07-05-2011, 04:58 PM

From your lips, to God's ears!!!

If there is a God...please, please, please, don't let this woman get away with this - strike her down with lightning or something. That poor baby doesn't deserve this last insult.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorp

Verdict: Not guilty of first degree murder

..I hope you get paid back....

AtLast · 07-05-2011, 05:55 PM

Discussing the racial or class implications of this case does not mean that one believes that this woman is not guilty of murder. It is simply a side discussion about how very different POC are investigated, processed, represented, arrested and sentenced in our court systems. It is not equal justice for all.

On the other side of this, I firmly believed OJ Simpson murdered his ex-wife and the young man that was with her. No doubt what-so-ever. Yet, race played a part in that verdict as well (also a circumstantial case). Anyone from the LA area that is a POC can explain how very alive "Jim Crowe" is in the LAPD. And for may POC, that verdict was justified based upon years of biased treatment in the LAPD racially. I don’t agree with this thinking, but I see where it comes from and why.

I certainly had a problem with that verdict in terms of it allowing a psychopath free and I feel the same way about this case. But, I do see race and the media coverage as related- in both cases. POC with this kind of tragedy in their lives are not equally represented. Their missing children, are not subject to the same utilization of resources or support in attempting to find them in most cases.

I wouldn't mind the same thing happening to Casey Anthony that happened to OJ- eventually being convicted of a crime in which time is spent. Getting both of these people off the streets is a very good idea. So is Anthony not having any more children... but that brings me to...

.... the fact that POC have been the populations in the USA that have been subjected to forced/mandated sterilization types of proposed legislation. There is a lot of historical evidence supporting forced sterilization as a means to conduct genocide against POC. I do, however, support certain situations in which women could lose rights to a child/baby such as giving birth to one while being a chronic drug abuser and using while pregnant. But, I also think that under certain rehab situations, this should not be done. That is a whole other subject for another thread.

Talking forced sterilization makes me nervous. I wish Anthony would voluntarily get her tubes tied, but I doubt she will/would. I fear that since her having Kaylee, she was able to play her parents in many ways- it is so obvious to me that that little girl was thought of their "second chance" to raise a child more effectively. She was a very powerful means for Casey to manipulate her parents. This family is desperately dysfunctional. I can see Casey trying to get back in her parents graces by getting pregnant again in the future. That makes me want to scream- but I just can't go with forced sterilization given the history it has in the US in terms of racism.

There is no “excuse” for what this woman did, yet, in the eyes of the law, she was found not guilty. Consequently, the courts can’t do a thing in terms of her having children in the future. Scary.

I wonder now if her parents will attempt a wrongful death suit against her. They might have standing in terms of the care and housing they provided for her. Might be nice for them to get some of the money we all know Casey will be coming into with her “story” publication and donate it to missing children or victims of violent crimes organizations. If Kay lee’s biological father was ever around and cared, he could of brought such a suit. Yes, I am having trouble with this child’s death not having any kind of justice. But this case has a myriad of psychological, social and political implications. I fully expect to see her parents at a later date with Gloria Allred in tow at media events related to this case.

NJFemmie · 07-05-2011, 12:27 PM

She's figuring .... do some jail time and then I can get back to partying!

I am so beside myself right now.

Scorp · 07-05-2011, 12:28 PM

Exactly!...............

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJFemmie

She's figuring .... do some jail time and then I can get back to partying!

I am so beside myself right now.

07-05-2011, 11:41 AM	#1
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