Casey Anthony - guilty, or not?

[Semantics]

Originally Posted by Kobi

princessbelle,

With all due respect, the woman was tried and found not guilty.

Even saying in your opinion that a "murderer was set free" is not healthy discourse. She was not proven to be a murderer. Saying she is one is deliberately inflammatory and drama provoking.

I have seen this dynamic run amok before under the guise of healthy discourse. I saw it when Michael Vick returned to the NFL and was praised by the President. Suddenly a man who was tried, convicted, and served his time needed to be raked over the coals in a very unnice way cuz people were disappointed with Obama's words on Vick.

I saw it with the "victims of the Superbowl". I saw it with bullying, saw it in "a site unexamined".

Ya'll have a thing for drama and anger. That isnt healthy discourse. Thats just drama and rage.

But we can agree to disagree.

Why is it that people have to come in and try and parent other adults?

That's not really offering healthy discourse. It's silencing.

Originally Posted by Kobi

With all due respect,

Originally Posted by Kobi

Ya'll have a thing for drama and anger. That isnt healthy discourse. Thats just drama and rage.

I saw very little drama and rage and plenty of thoughtful discussion.

The drama I saw was someone (you) coming in and starting off a lecturing post with "with all due respect" and then accusing the rest of us (I assume that's what you meant by ya'll) of being dramatic and full of rage.

What's also strange is that you directed it at a member who is neither dramatic or full of rage, so it looks like you're just annoyed in general and may have been looking for an opportunity to get it off your mind.

I'm sure you can consider your opinion noted.

[Novelafemme]

Casey's actions after the fact can't be ignored. Someone dumped her body like trash. Someone drove around with her dead body in Casey's car. Someone put duct tape on her mouth. If it was truly an accident, she wouldn't have been out partying like nothing was wrong.

If your kid goes missing for 30 minutes and you don't report it you're a bad parent. 30 days and you go partying and never report it, you most likely killed her - sometimes written law sucks and common sense must take over.

[NJFemmie]

Originally Posted by Novelafemme

Casey's actions after the fact can't be ignored. Someone dumped her body like trash. Someone drove around with her dead body in Casey's car. Someone put duct tape on her mouth. If it was truly an accident, she wouldn't have been out partying like nothing was wrong.

If your kid goes missing for 30 minutes and you don't report it you're a bad parent. 30 days and you go partying and never report it, you most likely killed her - sometimes written law sucks and common sense must take over.

....even if it was an accident, and this body was dumped somewhere to maybe hide the fact that you are a negligent parent ....

Remember - Casey lied about having a job - she took it further to claim that this imaginary job gave her a promotion that would require her to work nights - just so she could go out and party. Cindy (her mother) expressed that she was getting a little tired of being used as a constant babysitter ... Casey didn't want to own up to her responsibility as a parent .... Casey had some decisions to make.

Originally Posted by Kobi

With all due respect, the woman was tried and found not guilty.

Even saying in your opinion that a "murderer was set free" is not healthy discourse. She was not proven to be a murderer. Saying she is one is deliberately inflammatory and drama provoking.

Ya'll have a thing for drama and anger. That isnt healthy discourse. Thats just drama and rage.

It doesn't take rocket science to do simple math. She may have been found not guilty, and for all intents and purposes, the jury says she is not a murderer. Why is it that most people in this country (and around the world) feel otherwise?

Yes, there are judgments, heated emotions, anger and disappointment in the way this case played out. Normally, I myself try not to let certain things get to me - and I don't consider myself a drama mama - but when it comes to baby and animal abuse - I go insane with anger - and admittingly, sometimes rage. But you know what? Expressing it is normal. Venting is normal. Sharing it is normal. What is unhealthy is not letting it out if it affects you in such a way. If you aren't affected by anything in the same manner as someone else, that's totally fine but I don't believe it necessary to tell someone to tone it down unless they are totally out of control and intentionally hurting someone else because of misdirected emotion. And I certainly don't think it's ok to tell someone how and what they should think, or how they should feel about it.

[girl_dee]

Hell I'm outraged and angry! It's very hard not to wish the same fate to the murderer, tenfold. I am not there yet. I may never get there. I want this woman to suffer.

Fuck the reverent manner in which we speak about this. We are respectful to each other and without being told to do so.

This bitch killed her beautiful innocent baby. NO one should get away with that no matter what !

[girl_dee]

The jury did not say she is not a murderer, they said it wasn't proven.

[always2late]

The fact is that "we" (the public) saw more evidence than the jury did. Things that may be judged inadmissible in court are still allowed in the public forum. It is based on those facts that I have formed the OPINION that Caylee's mother is guilty of her murder. And, as such, I am outraged that she is free.

I am sickened that a beautiful little girl is dead. I am saddened that a child never had the chance to live or reach her full potential, whatever that may have been. And it breaks my heart that in ten years when Caylee would have been 15, most people will have forgotten that she even existed at all. I believe her mother is the one responsible for removing her from existence. I think that the only logical response to what I perceive to be true IS outrage. But, of course, that is MY opinion.

[NJFemmie]

It's part of human nature to try and make sense of irrational actions. The bottom line truly is that a beautiful little girl is dead and her death is shrouded in mystery and foul play. As a mother, whether it was an accident or not, there is responsibility as a parent. I'm not saying that George may or may not have had anything to do with this .... that in itself is it's own ugly web of lies. But lying to the police, IMO, was not enough for Casey. Covering up an accidental death is also a crime.

Unfortunately, everything is and always has been speculation, and all I can say is Casey dodged a bullet - she showed more emotion when she was found not guilty than she did when she was accused of killing her daughter or during the whole time her daughter was "missing". Her attorney - just got lucky.

[NJFemmie]

Originally Posted by sassy_girl

The jury did not say she is not a murderer, they said it wasn't proven.

You are correct. I should have been more precise and said the jury acquitted her of murder.

[girl_dee]

Originally Posted by NJFemmie

You are correct. I should have been more precise and said the jury acquitted her of murder.

I'm sorry, I was not correcting you, I just want to point out that even if every jury member felt she was guilty, they also felt they could not convict without more evidence.