Can our Earth be Saved? Impact and Responsibility

[Greco]

We are already experiencing catastrophic events, and they are increasing in frequency, and intensity (ie., Oil spill in Alaska, tsunamis in Asia, Fukishima's tsunami, Oil volcano in the Gulf, Nuclear disaster in Fukimshima...the list goes on and on, Chile's earthquakes, Iceland ), and more around our planet .

This is not disaster thinking it is our reality. In this country, the nuclear accident threat is a real one.

Add to this the economic paradigm here, how mulit-national companies are "milking" the citizens, include here the banksters, the incredible debt of this nation.

So, what can we do? I agree Sachita, store food, water, if you don't have a community, find one, family, friends, like-minded people you can trust.

I get out and stand up for the issues that are important to me, put my body, and mind out there, not sit in fear. We're in this together, and together we must come to terms with resolving it, finding win-win solutions.

This is a multi-layered time of change, transition.

So, I filter my water, store food, and provisions for a time when it may all be needed. If it isn't needed, great, if it is, I'm prepared for myself, my family, and friends in the areas. I know that building groups to support each other through this time is a must.

There's much that can be done, and is being done by those who are aware, awake, and moving on it.

Much more to discuss on this...I have a friend who says that we have chosen to be here at this time for this transition time. I believe it, and I know it.

"Buckle your seat belts its going to be a bumpy ride." Bette Davis

No truer words have ever been spoken.

Greco

Originally Posted by Sachita

These are my predictions

yes, the earth is changing and always has. I believe in our lifetime we will catastrophic events, including a major earthquake in CA and a Tsunami on the East Coast. Actual continents being reformed. I believe we have hurt our natural resources and this will contribute to the magnitude of destruction.

The cost of fuels, food and water will create a huge problem forcing us to do what we should have done many moons ago... conserve and respect. People will be forced to live more simply and have no choice then to gather in small micro communities in order to survive. I believe our dollar will soon have no value and our government more corrupt in its last attempt to control us.

I believe that now is the time, if ever, you should at least be prepared for "anything". Clip coupons, shop, store and conserve. Ask yourself, "If lost my job tomorrow and electricity was not available to me, could I survive?"


I store seeds, food and I don't use chemicals on my land/plants. Not only because I don't want to ingest chemicals but have a responsibility to protect our wildlife including our Bee population. I support organic's not only because its health for me but to help promote changes in how our food supply is grown.

I am trying to create less waste by purchasing bulk and eating things that require less packaging. This isn't always so easy but I try and am very conscious of this. I don't buy bottled water and filter mine. I wonder what would happen if every single person in the USA stopped buying and drinking soda and commercial package drinks? Just one day if everyone drank water how much waste we would save? Think about it.

[Ebon]

Originally Posted by greco

We are already experiencing catastrophic events, and they are increasing in frequency, and intensity (ie., Oil spill in Alaska, tsunamis in Asia, Fukishima's tsunami, Oil volcano in the Gulf, Nuclear disaster in Fukimshima...the list goes on and on, Chile's earthquakes, Iceland ), and more around our planet .

This is not disaster thinking it is our reality. In this country, the nuclear accident threat is a real one.

Add to this the economic paradigm here, how mulit-national companies are "milking" the citizens, include here the banksters, the incredible debt of this nation.

So, what can we do? I agree Sachita, store food, water, if you don't have a community, find one, family, friends, like-minded people you can trust.

I get out and stand up for the issues that are important to me, put my body, and mind out there, not sit in fear. We're in this together, and together we must come to terms with resolving it, finding win-win solutions.

This is a multi-layered time of change, transition.

So, I filter my water, store food, and provisions for a time when it may all be needed. If it isn't needed, great, if it is, I'm prepared for myself, my family, and friends in the areas. I know that building groups to support each other through this time is a must.

There's much that can be done, and is being done by those who are aware, awake, and moving on it.

Much more to discuss on this...I have a friend who says that we have chosen to be here at this time for this transition time. I believe it, and I know it.

"Buckle your seat belts its going to be a bumpy ride." Bette Davis

No truer words have ever been spoken.

Greco

Agree with you 100%. Nothing wrong with being prepared. If nothing happens that's fine but at least we will be prepared.

Ebon

[Sachita]

I'm bumping this very important topic. Food safety is a major concern of mine these days. I was talking to a water specialist who claims there is more radiation in the rain and bodies of water then they want you to know. Of course this effects our food supply and everything else. Being on the east coast, mid Atlantic region I know there are a ton of nuclear plants all over. So if foul weather hits us we're doomed because of all the reactors.

[Dominique]

As I signed on to the site, via my personal ISP...the first thing I saw was a polar bear floating on a piece of broken off iceberg. Immediately (me being a skeptic) I thought UUgh, I hate when people use these kind of ploys to solicit money.

I live in the second oldest neighborhood in Pittsburgh. It's been in gentrification for 20 years but there is alot of old around. There is both good and bad to old. We had an EXTREMELY hot summer. Very little precipitation. The more elderly people were catching their rain water from their downspots into 55 gallon drums to water their gardens. In theory, this sounds good. But it isn't. The *old* part of the neighborhood, who knows what those roofs are made of, and have been repaired with. I'd say, since the majority of the historic part of this neighborhood was pre WWAR2, the elderly have INSELBRIC roofs and faux brick shingles. Made primarily of asbestos. Those box gutters have lead paint on then. Collection of poisonous water, feeding it to your plants, well you know the rest. I also worry about the run off.

The older infastructure had all water collection going into the sewer systems and running into the rivers where it is collected, treated and given back to us as tap water. I DO NOT DRINK THAT STUFF.

Think about that, we allow water run off from asbestos to go into our drinking water supply. I'm sort of on a soap box about prescription medicine (unused mainly) being flushed down the toilet. How is it possible for the water treatment plants to kill every medicine in the world?

Have you ever wondered what happens to the hazardous medicines that hospitals use when they are finished with them? What about the bloody sheets and guaze and gowns and everything else from operating rooms and suction machines? Where does that stuff all go (it gets incerated) is that safe? Is that the air that we breath? Eventually, we all breath the same air. The wind does blow, the earth does rotate.

[Glenn]

Folks should get together and invest now in good berkey filters and deep artesian well drilling machines like one at deeprock.com.

[Dominique]

Originally Posted by popcorninthesofa

Folks should invest now in a good berkey filter and a deep artesian well drilling machine like at deeprock.com.

Yes, they should. You really do not need alot of land.

[Sachita]

Originally Posted by popcorninthesofa

Folks should get together and invest now in good berkey filters and deep artesian well drilling machines like one at deeprock.com.

even though I live in the country and have a deep well I still use my berkey. When people ask me what I want for a gift I tell them filters! lol They are like 100 bucks but they filter 3500 gallons of water. I could not, however find if they removed radiation. Do you know?

I'm happy to network with anyone willing to work. I have 30 acres but not enough room to house people but if you have an RV, tent system and don't mind roughing it have at it! I would love to see a collection of people.

My biggest concern tho is the nuke plants. An earthquake could shake them all up. Check this out

http://www.nrc.gov/reactors/operatin...-reactors.html


actually a better map

http://www.nukepills.com/nuclear-reactor-maps.htm

[SoNotHer]

Well, there's a lot to be said about water alone - availability, quality and the social justice behind access or lack thereof.

I lived in an area of greatly concentrated industrial agriculture in my home state. There was arsenic in the well water and in the soil that I planted in and ate from. And I found this out the hard way after many months of symptoms. This is also an area in which the aquifers are dropping rapidly. Many people don't realize where there water comes from or what the effects are of aquifers that are getting drawn down faster than they are being recharged. A good half of us depend on ground water.

I was fortunate enough to have a doctor bright enough to ask the right questions and take a hair sample. My arsenic levels were the highest he had seen in years, and I can tell you the effects of this on the human body are not pleasant. I looked in the mirror and saw death.

I recommend working with an integrated doctor who looks at hair sample analysis (there are plenty of toxins already in our bodies). I also recommend these:

Blue Gold by Maude Barlow

http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/books/...?cookieCheck=1

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Water/Blue_Gold.html

http://books.google.com/books/about/...d=8KsONoioTb4C


and "The Pollution Within" by David Ewing Duncan

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/20...le/duncan-text

[Sachita]

Originally Posted by SoNotHer

Well, there's a lot to be said about water alone - availability, quality and the social justice behind access or lack thereof.

I lived in an area of greatly concentrated industrial agriculture in my home state. There was arsenic in the well water and in the soil that I planted in and ate from. And I found this out the hard way after many months of symptoms. This is also an area in which the aquifers are dropping rapidly. Many people don't realize where there water comes from or what the effects are of aquifers that are getting drawn down faster than they are being recharged. A good half of us depend on ground water.

I was fortunate enough to have a doctor bright enough to ask the right questions and take a hair sample. My arsenic levels were the highest he had seen in years, and I can tell you the effects of this on the human body are not pleasant. I looked in the mirror and saw death.

I recommend working with an integrated doctor who looks at hair sample analysis (there are plenty of toxins already in our bodies). I also recommend these:

Blue Gold by Maude Barlow

http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/books/...?cookieCheck=1

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Water/Blue_Gold.html

http://books.google.com/books/about/...d=8KsONoioTb4C


and "The Pollution Within" by David Ewing Duncan

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/20...le/duncan-text

So what did he do to bring your levels down? Do you know where he sent your hair sample to?

[SoNotHer]

He did some IV chelation and gave me a chelating drug for detoxifcation. I also started taking higher doses of vitamin C, the B vitamins and D for this and other purposes. I grow and eat raw cilantro, the only plant known to pull metal out of the body (and incredibly tasty).

I will look up the companies used, Sachita. Again, I highly recommend this for anyone. It's painless and very telling. A hair analysis can give a wider and more long term picture of toxins in the body.

I use something called "A Better Bottle" for filtration. The better bottle is BPA free and gives me filtered water at about eight cents a glass. The filter is entirely recyclable. I use over a water crock.

I also iodine, and I would highly recommend you looking into this in the context of radiation and in the context of the general iodine deficiency that affects the vast majority of us.

http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/iodine.htm

http://www.mbschachter.com/Iodine.htm

RO is great if you can afford it.

Originally Posted by Sachita

So what did he do to bring your levels down? Do you know where he sent your hair sample to?

[Dominique]

Originally Posted by SoNotHer

Well, there's a lot to be said about water alone - availability, quality and the social justice behind access or lack thereof.

When people are pulling fish out of the water that have three eyes and teeth....I think thats a pretty good indicator there is a problem. That is true. It was the days of the steel mills. They dumped everything and anything into the water. The real truth on the shut down of the steel mills was not exclusively cheaper to import. The EPA was created and began enforcing regulations to protect the waterways and the air quality. The mills didn't want to implement what they viewed as expensive, so they shut down. Rather than co operate. Took their money and ran.

And, you want to talk about toxic waste pits. They (the steel mill owners) abandoned those sites. Many sat for as long as 25 years. The real estate was prime, but it all had to be cleaned to meet EPA regulations. Many are now sitting as green spaces. Not safe for building or habitat. Translated. Cancer Pits

[Sachita]

I use to live in the Florida Everglades way back in a rural area surrounded by orange groves and sugar cane fields. There is a 2000 mile canal system that goes throughout the state and is part of irrigation and water (mis)management.
Whenever they would spray the groves I would get sick. I didn't give the water to my dogs. I filtered all the water. I would see EPA trucks out there all the time and stories people just don't want to hear. The chemicals used for pest on citrus and sugar cane are extremely harmful. I'm floored they still allow it... BUT all this runs off into the canal system that many use to water crops. I honestly question organic certification in Florida because of this. Not unless they are providing their own safe water source and even that is questionable.

Its really hard to escape it all. All we can do is limit our exposure and find ways to be safe as possible. I didn't put the poly on the greenhouse yet and it needs it badly. I wish I could afford 10 year solexx and not worry about it. But what I'd really like to find is which water filters remove radiation and the like.