OFOS Butches & Femmes

[OS Butch]

Good morning and Happy day to all. It has been months since I past through here. I trust all is well with folks.

I was thinking that my identity as OFOS is outdated. Old fashioned.....because it use to be how one was suppose to treat people? What kind of advancement is that in our society?

Shouldn't everyone be Old Fashioned?

I travel quite a bit between Virginia and Texas. Funny how things are different.

I went to a race track in West Virginia. A woman came out and sang our Nation Anthem. I stood and placed my hand over my heart, didn't sing cuz I can't carry a tune in a bucket. I was surprised how many people did not stand and how many men did not remove their hats.

I went to a rodeo in Texas. A woman came out and sang our Nation Anthem. I stood and placed my hand over my heart, didn't sing cuz I can't carry a tune in a bucket. I was surprised that EVERYONE stood and not 1 cowboy hat was on any head.

I know that I will continue to do my random acts of kindness as a rule of how I live and how I treat and respect others. If we all did these things, I hope it would catch on and it wouldn't be old fashioned or old school anymore.

[1ladyface]

As I was reading some of the previous posts about the loving actions of OFOS butches it struck me that being so respectful and sometimes even worshipful (is that the right word?) of femininity is, unfortunately radical in this world. As in, radically, eye-catchingly different from the behavior of the majority.

Just my two cents.

[kittygrrl]

Originally Posted by OS Butch

Good morning and Happy day to all. It has been months since I past through here. I trust all is well with folks.

I was thinking that my identity as OFOS is outdated. Old fashioned.....because it use to be how one was suppose to treat people? What kind of advancement is that in our society?

Shouldn't everyone be Old Fashioned?

I travel quite a bit between Virginia and Texas. Funny how things are different.

I went to a race track in West Virginia. A woman came out and sang our Nation Anthem. I stood and placed my hand over my heart, didn't sing cuz I can't carry a tune in a bucket. I was surprised how many people did not stand and how many men did not remove their hats.

I went to a rodeo in Texas. A woman came out and sang our Nation Anthem. I stood and placed my hand over my heart, didn't sing cuz I can't carry a tune in a bucket. I was surprised that EVERYONE stood and not 1 cowboy hat was on any head.

I know that I will continue to do my random acts of kindness as a rule of how I live and how I treat and respect others. If we all did these things, I hope it would catch on and it wouldn't be old fashioned or old school anymore.

Manners and chivalry are never outdated..Maybe we are all a dying breed and when we are gone the neos will take over..i suppose that's ok but the extinction of this beautiful dynamic is hard to think about. Surely the gods will provide a tiny space for us somewhere in the universe.

[clay]

Originally Posted by kittygrrl

Manners and chivalry are never outdated..Maybe we are all a dying breed and when we are gone the neos will take over..i suppose that's ok but the extinction of this beautiful dynamic is hard to think about. Surely the gods will provide a tiny space for us somewhere in the universe.

so true, kittygrrrl. Manners, chivalry, respect, courtesy, and being attentive & kind are qualities that make me OFOS. As someone said..."walk the walk and talk the talk".
I tend to place my palm under her elbow if we are walking in someplace...OR offer her my arm, pull out her chair, and even order for her IF I am certain of her tastes.
If walking on a sidewalk, I always take the outside, place my hand at the small of her back ever so lightly, and put my other hand under her elbow if pathway is uneven.
I help her take off her coat, and don it afterwards..and even so much as that small, genuine yet ever so innocently intimate pulling her hair out and fanning it just so off the collar....grinz...
After the date, I walk her to her door, ask if I may kiss top of her hand..and then watch her safely in...even using her key to unlock her door for her..and make sure door is closed and secure before I leave!
It isn't about the $$ BUT the genuine sincerity and quality of a date and using my manners, courtesy, respect, and chivalry.....these cost no money and are PRICELESS!
I am so OF I prefer to call her...initially anyway...and I will text her or call her the next day or so....just to tell her what a wonderful evening I had and how much I enjoyed the pleasure of her company!!
These attributes should be present with us....all places and at all times...mine continue even into a LTR...these aren't just for dates and such...they are with me FOR LIFE! just my .02...smiles

[kittygrrl]

Originally Posted by claybaby

so true, kittygrrrl. Manners, chivalry, respect, courtesy, and being attentive & kind are qualities that make me OFOS. As someone said..."walk the walk and talk the talk".
I tend to place my palm under her elbow if we are walking in someplace...OR offer her my arm, pull out her chair, and even order for her IF I am certain of her tastes.
If walking on a sidewalk, I always take the outside, place my hand at the small of her back ever so lightly, and put my other hand under her elbow if pathway is uneven.
I help her take off her coat, and don it afterwards..and even so much as that small, genuine yet ever so innocently intimate pulling her hair out and fanning it just so off the collar....grinz...
After the date, I walk her to her door, ask if I may kiss top of her hand..and then watch her safely in...even using her key to unlock her door for her..and make sure door is closed and secure before I leave!
It isn't about the $$ BUT the genuine sincerity and quality of a date and using my manners, courtesy, respect, and chivalry.....these cost no money and are PRICELESS!
I am so OF I prefer to call her...initially anyway...and I will text her or call her the next day or so....just to tell her what a wonderful evening I had and how much I enjoyed the pleasure of her company!!
These attributes should be present with us....all places and at all times...mine continue even into a LTR...these aren't just for dates and such...they are with me FOR LIFE! just my .02...smiles

This is perfection (to me)..it's not about going thru the motions of doing what someone (OS femme) might expect..it's all about believing in what you are doing and owning it (as part of who you are)..being otherwise is misleading..if that's not who you are, then don't try to pull it off..but if you're trying to figure it out if it feels right (for you)then that is exciting and it would be a privilege to have hym take my hand.

[1ladyface]

I've been relatively quiet but I just want to say that this is my most favorite thread to lurk! Thanks for the good reads.

[1QuirkyKiwi]

I can’t say if I’m OFOS or not, simply because I was raised within the Maori culture where politeness, respect, consideration and loyalty are common place; even amongst family members.

Very often I’m told that I’m painfully polite….it’s a part of who I am. I’m proud to be well mannered and courteous regardless of what others think.

[genghisfawn]

Where oh where is my OF/OS butch? They say chivalry isn't dead, they say old-fashioned isn't out of fashion, etc. but where is hy?



Never mind me and my whining. I'm struggling with broken heat, a broken toilet and not enough blankets. If I could find hym, at least I wouldn't be cold!

[Bootsandheels]

Originally Posted by claybaby

so true, kittygrrrl. Manners, chivalry, respect, courtesy, and being attentive & kind are qualities that make me OFOS. As someone said..."walk the walk and talk the talk".
I tend to place my palm under her elbow if we are walking in someplace...OR offer her my arm, pull out her chair, and even order for her IF I am certain of her tastes.
If walking on a sidewalk, I always take the outside, place my hand at the small of her back ever so lightly, and put my other hand under her elbow if pathway is uneven.
I help her take off her coat, and don it afterwards..and even so much as that small, genuine yet ever so innocently intimate pulling her hair out and fanning it just so off the collar....grinz...
After the date, I walk her to her door, ask if I may kiss top of her hand..and then watch her safely in...even using her key to unlock her door for her..and make sure door is closed and secure before I leave!
It isn't about the $$ BUT the genuine sincerity and quality of a date and using my manners, courtesy, respect, and chivalry.....these cost no money and are PRICELESS!
I am so OF I prefer to call her...initially anyway...and I will text her or call her the next day or so....just to tell her what a wonderful evening I had and how much I enjoyed the pleasure of her company!!
These attributes should be present with us....all places and at all times...mine continue even into a LTR...these aren't just for dates and such...they are with me FOR LIFE! just my .02...smiles

Originally Posted by kittygrrl

This is perfection (to me)..it's not about going thru the motions of doing what someone (OS femme) might expect..it's all about believing in what you are doing and owning it (as part of who you are)..being otherwise is misleading..if that's not who you are, then don't try to pull it off..but if you're trying to figure it out if it feels right (for you)then that is exciting and it would be a privilege to have hym take my hand.

*Struts in so you all can hear me coming... Oh can I get an "AMEN" here?! THANK YOU for sharing everyone! OFOS is SO misunderstood and mistaken out here in the pacific NW...the butches seem terrified of me or something...haven't they ever seen or been around a real lady with integrity, honesty and a femme who knows how to treat them like gold and drop them to their knees with one well placed touch? Good Lord...I'm about to lose faith and heart. However...I will NOT lose these vital 'ingredients' that make me who I am...a fierce sexy OFOS femme with high standards who knows what she wants and needs and will not settle for less. Maybe that means I'll be alone but that's ok...I'd rather be alone than settle for anything less than a gentlmyn butch! *Curtsies and exits stage left....

[clay]

Originally Posted by Bootsandheels

*Struts in so you all can hear me coming... Oh can I get an "AMEN" here?! THANK YOU for sharing everyone! OFOS is SO misunderstood and mistaken out here in the pacific NW...the butches seem terrified of me or something...haven't they ever seen or been around a real lady with integrity, honesty and a femme who knows how to treat them like gold and drop them to their knees with one well placed touch? Good Lord...I'm about to lose faith and heart. However...I will NOT lose these vital 'ingredients' that make me who I am...a fierce sexy OFOS femme with high standards who knows what she wants and needs and will not settle for less. Maybe that means I'll be alone but that's ok...I'd rather be alone than settle for anything less than a gentlmyn butch! *Curtsies and exits stage left....

Bootsie...YOU are an amazingly beautiful soul...your presence illuminates the room....as does your impeccable manners, refined elegance, a true lady in every sense of the word, and your aura...of how you are who you are...and apologize to no one..you OWN you...you are "felt" long before you enter a room...powerful, sensuous, and so decadently elegant! Have a cup of mexican hot chocolate, gorgeous!!! THANKS for the validation, the affirmations, and being YOU, my friend!! You exude "old fashioned" and "respect"..you carry YOU well.. WORK it Girl!!! bows and tip brim of fedora to all the ladies......Clay

[1QuirkyKiwi]

I love it when K gently kisses my hands and forehead and leads me gracefully to the table or door, etc, before doing the gentle(wo)manly thing of pulling out the chair or opening the door.

Yesterday, she escorted my to the Uni reception, wished me ‘Good luck’ and waited in the car with a book to read. Whilst helping me in and out of the car hy help my coat.

It’s too early to say whether this is her Army training and the rank she held of Major, or if it’s how she was also raised….it’s fun discovering! LOL!

Is this chivalry common place among veterans of the Military, or is it just a typical British Army thing?

[mariamma]

Originally Posted by claybaby

Bootsie...YOU are an amazingly beautiful soul...your presence illuminates the room....as does your impeccable manners, refined elegance, a true lady in every sense of the word, and your aura...of how you are who you are...and apologize to no one..you OWN you...you are "felt" long before you enter a room...powerful, sensuous, and so decadently elegant! Have a cup of mexican hot chocolate, gorgeous!!! THANKS for the validation, the affirmations, and being YOU, my friend!! You exude "old fashioned" and "respect"..you carry YOU well.. WORK it Girl!!! bows and tip brim of fedora to all the ladies......Clay

Such a gentlemyn claybaby Keep it up. Keep setting the bar for what an honorable butch/boi/stud is to us gratefully femmes.

[Firedance]

*Fire hugs her Fierce-Femme-Sista as she exits.*

"Amen, Sister. I know you and Clay have heard this before, but I'm going to say my piece."

*Fire confidently strides to the mic in her black strappy heels, with just the slights swish of her hips, and proclaims...*


"Give me a Butch that knows how to kiss the back of my hand when we meet,
and I'll give you one entranced Femme!


Pull out my chair,
and as I sit, I'll look over my shoulder and smile, just for you.


Open my door,
and I'll step out with enough grace to take your breath away.


Place your hand in the small of my back,
and I'll shudder with delight. My body will react to the smallest pressure, and we will walk together seamlessly.


Offer me your arm,
and I shall take it with pride, and walk just suggestively enough that everyone will look at us, and see how happy I am to be with you.


Give me your respect,
and I will give you mine, and everywhere we go, people will stare, and wish they were us."

~Fire.

Originally Posted by Bootsandheels

*Struts in so you all can hear me coming... Oh can I get an "AMEN" here?! THANK YOU for sharing everyone! OFOS is SO misunderstood and mistaken out here in the pacific NW...the butches seem terrified of me or something...haven't they ever seen or been around a real lady with integrity, honesty and a femme who knows how to treat them like gold and drop them to their knees with one well placed touch? Good Lord...I'm about to lose faith and heart. However...I will NOT lose these vital 'ingredients' that make me who I am...a fierce sexy OFOS femme with high standards who knows what she wants and needs and will not settle for less. Maybe that means I'll be alone but that's ok...I'd rather be alone than settle for anything less than a gentlmyn butch! *Curtsies and exits stage left....

[gaea]

Originally Posted by Firedance

*Fire hugs her Fierce-Femme-Sista as she exits.*

"Amen, Sister. I know you and Clay have heard this before, but I'm going to say my piece."

*Fire confidently strides to the mic in her black strappy heels, with just the slights swish of her hips, and proclaims...*


"Give me a Butch that knows how to kiss the back of my hand when we meet,
and I'll give you one entranced Femme!


Pull out my chair,
and as I sit, I'll look over my shoulder and smile, just for you.


Open my door,
and I'll step out with enough grace to take your breath away.


Place your hand in the small of my back,
and I'll shudder with delight. My body will react to the smallest pressure, and we will walk together seamlessly.


Offer me your arm,
and I shall take it with pride, and walk just suggestively enough that everyone will look at us, and see how happy I am to be with you.


Give me your respect,
and I will give you mine, and everywhere we go, people will stare, and wish they were us."

~Fire.

Beautiful....

[Justin]

Originally Posted by Firedance

*Fire hugs her Fierce-Femme-Sista as she exits.*

"Amen, Sister. I know you and Clay have heard this before, but I'm going to say my piece."

*Fire confidently strides to the mic in her black strappy heels, with just the slights swish of her hips, and proclaims...*


"Give me a Butch that knows how to kiss the back of my hand when we meet,
and I'll give you one entranced Femme!


Pull out my chair,
and as I sit, I'll look over my shoulder and smile, just for you.


Open my door,
and I'll step out with enough grace to take your breath away.


Place your hand in the small of my back,
and I'll shudder with delight. My body will react to the smallest pressure, and we will walk together seamlessly.


Offer me your arm,
and I shall take it with pride, and walk just suggestively enough that everyone will look at us, and see how happy I am to be with you.


Give me your respect,
and I will give you mine, and everywhere we go, people will stare, and wish they were us."

~Fire.

This is very well said !!! I love it

How did I miss this thread?......oh yea work and SCHOOL LOL

I am very much Old School and somewhat Old Fashioned in that I do believe in manners and respect. There is just something within me that makes me that way, its just natural and what makes me feel right. Its something that sometimes I feel has gotten lost through the years through cultural changes and our style of dynamic (Butch-femme) becoming less popular and more of the misunderstood sect.

Have a great night all !!!