Anti abortion ad to air during Super Bowl

[dreadgeek]

Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow

Change.org

[I]Here's hoping Tim Tebow knows what he's getting into, though. Does Tim Tebow know that he's supporting an organization that has called gay marriage perverted and has said that homosexuals want to destroy human civilization?

Almost certainly he does, to the degree he thinks about that at all.

Does Tim Tebow know that he's supporting an organization that believes you can repair homosexuality, and that sexual orientation is a condition that can be treated?

If I were a betting woman (which I'm not) I'd put better than even odds that, in fact, he does.

Does Tim Tebow know he's supporting an organization whose founder has said that sex education strips girls of their modesty?

Again, almost certainly.

One of the things that I think we forget is that the anti-choice movement is also a profoundly anti-sex movement. They believe that sex is sinful EXCEPT in the context of a heterosexual couple and then only when the man is calling the shots and the woman is complying at which point pretty much anything goes. The pro-choice movement would do well to remind the voting public of this.

Cheers
Aj

[Soon]

Originally Posted by dreadgeek

Almost certainly he does, to the degree he thinks about that at all.



If I were a betting woman (which I'm not) I'd put better than even odds that, in fact, he does.



Again, almost certainly.

One of the things that I think we forget is that the anti-choice movement is also a profoundly anti-sex movement. They believe that sex is sinful EXCEPT in the context of a heterosexual couple and then only when the man is calling the shots and the woman is complying at which point pretty much anything goes. The pro-choice movement would do well to remind the voting public of this.

Cheers
Aj

I don't forget that (underlined part) and agree with all your answers to the questions that change.org posed.

He's all about flaunting his virginity and biblical verses, (until a suitable heterosexual wife/marriage occurs) and it is unsurprising that he is connected to and wishes to espouse the rhetoric of the anti-choice movement.

[Apocalipstic]

Superbowl?

[IttyBittyFem]

HOW DARE THEY!!!!!

I truly believe their minds would change should something (unfortunately) happen to one of their children. Say for example, one of their children was a victim of a violent rape. Would they condone that pregnancy? What if it was incest? What if it the pregnancy threatened the life of the birth mother?

How DARE anyone believe they have the right to tell me (or anyone else) what to do with my own body? They have NO RIGHT dammit.

Shame shame shame on anyone that financially benefits from this. And the Super Bowl no less. It takes alot to get me to the point where I verbally express my anger, however, when I do, I have the ability to chew you up and spit you out into the gutter you crawled out from. I know NO fear. This topic is so irritating to me that I don't believe I could physically be in the company of anyone that feels so strongly they have the right to tell a complete stranger what to do with their own bodies.

[Queerasfck]

I just read CBS has received numerous calls and emails both critical and supportive of it's abortion ad. They said they would welcome more advocacy ads. You can read the story here.

[Soon]

Thank God for Tim Tebow--Right After These Messages

--Jodi Kasten


Tim Tebow is the second coming of the Christ child according to most Florida fans. If you ask them, he single-handedly delivered two BCS championships, won the 2007 Heisman Trophy and just one touch from Tebow can heal leprosy or rickets. There’s no doubt that Tebow is a magnificent ball player. He’s a great role model, a leader and a very public proponent of abstinence until marriage. I have to applaud the dude’s tenacity in that arena. I can only imagine the legions of women who have thrown themselves at Tim Tebow’s cleats.

Like any admirable young man, he loves his mother. He loves his mother so much that he’s going to appear with her in an ad during the Super Bowl on CBS. Evidently, while on a Christian mission trip to the Philippines in 1987, Pam Tebow got sick while pregnant with her fifth child. Doctors counseled her to have an abortion. She refused and Tim Tebow was born.

All abortion debate aside, that is a heartwarming story. Tebow is a fine young man with amazing prospects. His leadership and squeaky clean image are a welcome change in a world of sports stars who work games into their schedules between weapons arrests and affairs. We do need more Tim Tebows in the world.

But, in spite of the message, many believe that this anti-abortion ad has no place in the commercial line-up on Super Bowl Sunday. My first yellow flag was thrown when I saw who sponsored the ad. This isn’t Nike saying, “Just Do It.” This is Focus on the Family – a conservative Christian group. The funds for the ad, according to Focus on the Family spokesman Gary Schneeberger, came from “very generous friends” rather than the group’s general fund. One thirty second commercial during the Super Bowl is selling for $2.5 - $2.8 million.

Schneeberger was “a little surprised” that the proposed ad has caused a furor. The Women’s Media Center’s Jemhu Greene says, “An ad that uses sports to divide rather than to unite has no place in the biggest national sports event of the year – an event designed to bring Americans together.” She went on to say, “By offering one of the most coveted advertising spots of the year to an anti-equality, anti-choice, homophobic organization, CBS is aligning itself with a political stance that will damage its reputation, alienate viewers and discourage consumers from supporting its shows and advertisers.”

As election seasons stretch out to cover 90% of the year, it’s conceivable that instead of seeing flatulent horses selling Budweiser, we could soon be seeing many more ads bought by political action committees at the Super Bowl. Furthermore, with the recent Supreme Court ruling about corporate political funding, we could soon be seeing “Proposition 8 – Brought to you by Sarah Palin for President and Pepsi. Palin & Pepsi – two great tastes that taste great together!”

I’m sure that Focus on the Family believes that this is not an anti-abortion message on the surface. Instead, they are reminding every woman who is in the heartbreaking position of terminating a pregnancy for any reason that they could be “killing” a Heisman trophy winner. The worst of this for me is that Tebow’s mother is sending the message that women should ignore the advice of their doctors and continue any and all pregnancies, no matter what the peril may be to their own lives.

If Tebow and his mother were telling a different story, perhaps one where she thought she didn’t have the money for another child or she was pregnant out of wedlock, I’d shake my head and say, “There’s another anti-choice ad riding on the backs of someone’s fame and money.” But, this ad actually endangers the lives of women. How many women, just like me, who are told that they might die if they continue a pregnancy, will refuse abortions because they are reminded that the baby they have could be a star?

Football fame is powerful stuff in the south, as is religion and the Focus on the Family group. There is a distinct possibility that women will die because of this ad. It has no place in the Super Bowl or anywhere else. Considering Focus on the Family’s deep association with Rev. Ted Haggard's prostitution and drug scandal, it appears that they would do best to focus on their own families for once.

[SuperFemme]

I wonder if the Courage Campaign will sponsor a similar ad.

After all, I'm adopted and the Christ Camp thinks that is an easy answer.

My bio mom (whoever she is) can tell the world that this blonde in a pony outfit could have been murdered. Behold. I've gone on to the the best damn Queer that I can be.

Wipes a tear.

I feel so inspirational. I mean, I made it all the way through Catholic High School and abstained from being a heterosexual.

sniffle.

[owen4u1904]

Originally Posted by IttyBittyFem

HOW DARE THEY!!!!!

I truly believe their minds would change should something (unfortunately) happen to one of their children. Say for example, one of their children was a victim of a violent rape. Would they condone that pregnancy? What if it was incest? What if it the pregnancy threatened the life of the birth mother?

How DARE anyone believe they have the right to tell me (or anyone else) what to do with my own body? They have NO RIGHT dammit.

Shame shame shame on anyone that financially benefits from this. And the Super Bowl no less. It takes alot to get me to the point where I verbally express my anger, however, when I do, I have the ability to chew you up and spit you out into the gutter you crawled out from. I know NO fear. This topic is so irritating to me that I don't believe I could physically be in the company of anyone that feels so strongly they have the right to tell a complete stranger what to do with their own bodies.

I very much agree with you on all this. I am a person who did the adoption thing, but it was very hard emotionally. With having my adoption I fully support pro choice. I do not like abortion, but I am not going to tell someone else to do with their body for the reasons you stated above. What if it was a rape, what if the mother would be hurt in the pregnancy process? And then you have to think about just not the baby though. What if a year after the person who gave their child up for adoption got so depressed because they was told to not have an abortion and do something they should not do. I know it is not something good to think about, but its the truth. I will argue this point till the end of time and I will speak it loud and clear too.

[Soon]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oNWi8fXOfg&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube- Raging Grannies Rip CBS Anti-Choice Super Bowl Ad[/ame]

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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utcxpuHF7jg"]YouTube- Sean James and Al Joyner respond to the Tebow Super Bowl ad[/ame]

[IttyBittyFem]

Originally Posted by rbentley1904

I very much agree with you on all this. I am a person who did the adoption thing, but it was very hard emotionally. With having my adoption I fully support pro choice. I do not like abortion, but I am not going to tell someone else to do with their body for the reasons you stated above. What if it was a rape, what if the mother would be hurt in the pregnancy process? And then you have to think about just not the baby though. What if a year after the person who gave their child up for adoption got so depressed because they was told to not have an abortion and do something they should not do. I know it is not something good to think about, but its the truth. I will argue this point till the end of time and I will speak it loud and clear too.

Thank you so much for writing this. I AM an adoptive parent also. I adopted my identical boys 23 years ago at birth.

HOWEVER, as a victim of a BRUTAL rape, I feel VERY STRONGLY that every woman has the choice to do what she wants to do to her body.

I often wonder if any of these people who so strongly believe they have a right to tell other people what to do with their own bodies have every been, or had a very close loved one brutally raped. Would they want that victim to go through an entire pregnancy carrying a child from a rape that practically KILLED them?

I acknowledge how blessed I am for the opportunity to adopt my two sons. Their birth mother made her choice, hence, I have the opportunity to now be a mother.

And one more thing - I'm not so sure how I would feel about going through a pregnancy resulting from a brutal rape (by 3 men) and then giving that child up for adoption. If these sick men passed their brutal genes on to the child, what type of person would they turn out to be? Perhaps it wouldn't have effected that child at all, however, what if it did?

[Andrew, Jr.]

I thought the ad was weak. I had no clue it was actually about pro-life. I thought it was about Timmy Tebow being a Heisman Trophy winner, and a Univ. of Florida star QB. I thought maybe it had to do with a new medicine for hyperactivity. Go figure.