Is it BAD art if you love it?

AlphaDrug · 08-24-2011, 10:25 AM

I'm a HUGE Salvidor Dali fan, I even have a clock melting in my kitchen. ^_^

MissItalianDiva · 08-24-2011, 10:35 AM

I agree with some previous comments here.

Art is just that Art. I think Art definitely is one of those things where the beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There are no standards of what constitutes art and what doesn't.

I have some pretty out there pieces in my home that I know a lot of people don't "get" or appreciate but to me they resonate and I connect with them. So while they are in no way shape or form mainstream I consider them beautiful pieces.

dark_crystal · 08-24-2011, 11:51 AM

I am of two minds on the subject.

In the first place, this quote from Thomas Kinkade makes me feel quite stabby:

There's been million-seller books and million-seller CDs. But there hasn't been, until now, million-seller art. We have found a way to bring to millions of people, an art that they can understand.

On the other hand, having been through a very formal fine arts conservatory program, it was my experience that art which is considered "capital "a" Art," as in the Fine Art that makes it into NYC galleries and the Venice Biennale, is largely unintelligible to 99.99% of the population.

Art that only makes sense to people who have been through very formal fine arts conservatory programs also makes me feel stabby

i don't like the pandering Thomas Kinkade does, but i don't like that ivory tower crap either.

ETA: all of my toys are in dioramas. the most awesomely ridiculous being the three cabbage patch kids sitting naked in a galvanized tub, up to their chins in bubbles painstakingly cut from an entire roll of bubblewrap

Gráinne · 08-24-2011, 02:50 PM

I confess I LIKED some of the art in the Museum of Bad Art link!

The problem with art, music, literature is, of course, that someone's trash is another's treasure. How do you define "bad"-that it doesn't follow the rules of how to draw, uses the "wrong" colors, or is just weird? Picasso was weird for his time, and obviously has many fans today.

Same with literature and music-what's cutting edge at one time was probably labeled bad, immoral, or both.

In the eye of the beholder, and all that

deb_U_taunt · 08-24-2011, 03:41 PM

I am guilty of owning 'bad' art.
I have older tapestries of dogs playing poker and billards. I have a bronze mermaid lamp, her nipples light, too. I have a large spoon and fork hanging in my kitchen, present from a friends grandma.
I have a few cheese pieces around the house.

Reader · 08-24-2011, 03:57 PM

Is any art bad? Isn't "bad art" an oxymoron?

Dean Thoreau · 08-24-2011, 04:20 PM

Is it a question of being good or bad art or just if it is
ART?

I mean some stuff..u just have to wonder.....
many years ago when my one daughter was aobut 5 we went to this gallery opening and there in the corner was about 30 computer monitors..in a pile....
my daughter says oh mommy look at the mess......the artist got kind of upset, seems it was an installation.....(I was the one writing the review on it for a local paper)....and quoted my daughter....

Just as beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I believe art is as well......
My style taste,,,is different than yours..thank goodness there are different forms, types and genres of it so we all can hang what we think is wonderful and beautiful on our walls..or in my case...put on my lawn.....
Dont get art cause u think it is what u are supposed to like...then it truly is bad art..cause it is inhibiting your self excpression throu the style of art you truly love.

dark_crystal · 08-24-2011, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Debby

I have older tapestries of dogs playing poker and billards. I have a bronze mermaid lamp, her nipples light, too. I have a large spoon and fork hanging in my kitchen

Dean Thoreau · 08-24-2011, 05:41 PM

Debby!!! I love those giant forks and spoons..I saw some at Pier one the other day....jen and I both wanted them actually if they go on sale they will probably be in our kitchen....I dont like to pay full price.......I keep hoping one of the auctions i go to will have some.....

View Poll Results: Is it BAD art if you love it? They say beauty is in the eye of the beholder; is appreciation in the
Is there a velvet Elvis over your mantel?	7	14.89%
Do Dali's clocks drip from your table top?	16	34.04%
Do you have a pyramid of Brillo boxes in your pantry?	4	8.51%
Did you paint your mother's portrait as a cube with three eyes?	5	10.64%
Have all your leftover marshmallow Peeps been glued and framed?	7	14.89%
Are your Barbies in dioramas?	7	14.89%
Are all the clowns crying in their frames?	1	2.13%
If you look hard can you see the numbers though the paint?	8	17.02%
Are balloon animals involved?	4	8.51%
If shrunk down to its original size is it a comic strip?	13	27.66%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 47. You may not vote on this poll

08-24-2011, 10:25 AM	#1
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08-24-2011, 10:35 AM	#2
MissItalianDiva Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Miss Twiggy Preferred Pronoun?: Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious and that shit doesn't sound atrocious! Relationship Status: divorce happens..all that glitters ain't gold Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: SLC Utah Posts: 2,284 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,768 Thanked 7,159 Times in 1,793 Posts Rep Power: 21474855	I agree with some previous comments here. Art is just that Art. I think Art definitely is one of those things where the beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There are no standards of what constitutes art and what doesn't. I have some pretty out there pieces in my home that I know a lot of people don't "get" or appreciate but to me they resonate and I connect with them. So while they are in no way shape or form mainstream I consider them beautiful pieces.

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deb_U_taunt Senior Member How Do You Identify?: ........ Join Date: May 2011 Location: ....... Posts: 1,748 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 5,324 Thanked 5,256 Times in 1,361 Posts Rep Power: 21474852	I am guilty of owning 'bad' art. I have older tapestries of dogs playing poker and billards. I have a bronze mermaid lamp, her nipples light, too. I have a large spoon and fork hanging in my kitchen, present from a friends grandma. I have a few cheese pieces around the house.

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08-24-2011, 05:41 PM	#9
Dean Thoreau Member How Do You Identify?: Ftm - Male- exfemale Preferred Pronoun?: He’s Him Relationship Status: Has a gf Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Philadelphia pa Posts: 889 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 251 Thanked 763 Times in 219 Posts Rep Power: 4529750	Debby!!! I love those giant forks and spoons..I saw some at Pier one the other day....jen and I both wanted them actually if they go on sale they will probably be in our kitchen....I dont like to pay full price.......I keep hoping one of the auctions i go to will have some..... __________________ Dean Thoreau