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Old 08-30-2011, 10:15 AM   #1
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Exposure is good in itself.

Exposure in the media of the full spectrum of gay folk has been instrumental in reforming the opinion of the public regarding gay people. People love Ellen, they love Rachel Maddow, they love "Queer Eye", therefore they give other gay people a chance.

If Chaz dances well and/or behaves well, he will change peoples minds about trans folk. Peoples opinion of him will transfer at least in part to their feelings about others that they perceive to be like him. If they like Chaz, they will give other trans folk a chance.

In general, people don't have a lot of exposure to trans folk, so it they see one it helps form or re-form their opinions about the group in general. The more they see, the more "particular" their opinion becomes. I like THAT trans person, but THAT one is an asshole. Sounds pretty much like they judge all people doesn't it? That's what we want, to be judged like other people, so the more exposure the better.

Personally I think he is a handsome young man, not too mature in his new "self" yet as could be expected in one so newly transitioned. I rarely watch DWTS, but his being there may raise my interest level enough to watch it this season. I wish him well.
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Hmmm I've been thinking about this since I first heard the rumour...

I haven't watched the show but here are my thoughts:

If it's population vote off - he will most likely be the first one voted off strictly because the general public just doesn't get it - and right now they don't wanna get it... UNLESS more people hate Nancy Grace - that may be a close one. Of course he may have the entire LGBTQI voting base - so that may help quite a bit as well...

If it's by talent - well he's a bigger boy.. how hard are the first dances? How well have bigger guys / girls fared in the past? And if he is honestly the worst dancer - is the LGBTQI community willing to accept that - or will we be up in arms regardless?

Several thoughts - but I will say that this is the closest I've come to watching DWTS - so if their aim is to increase viewership than they are dead on.

I am humoured however that there are articles out there saying "Chaz Bono to Dance with WOMEN on DWTS"... so many more miles to go
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[quote=iamkeri1;408728]Exposure is good in itself.

Exposure in the media of the full spectrum of gay folk has been instrumental in reforming the opinion of the public regarding gay people. People love Ellen, they love Rachel Maddow, they love "Queer Eye", therefore they give other gay people a chance.

That's a good point. I've always been of the notion that people aren't as quick to hate someone they "know" whether it's their son/daughter/other relative or someone they like on TV. I tend to think the exposure is really good in the long run, although in the short term, it could just be mocked.


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Agreed. All the speculation centered on who he'd be partnered with. When I first heard it, my reaction was, "Of course he'll be with a woman."

As for the format, I haven't watch it enough to know, but I think it's a combination of judging/voting.
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Everyone votes the way they do for their own reasons. I didn't vote for Bristol, no matter how well she did because I do not like her mother.

Some people might not vote for him because they don't like Cher and it will have nothing to do with the trans thing.

Hopefully the story they back him up with will be put together well and people will see him as just another dancer on the show. I bet some people don't even have a clue who he is! The ones that do, will see him as in inspiration...and if he makes a difference in one person's life after being on the show, then it was awesome that he was on there!

I don't think he will last long because those dances get pretty complicated and I think he is out of shape for that type of dancing....I am hoping I am wrong though.

I will be pulling for him; I think it is pretty damn cool that they asked him to be on the show!
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Everyone votes the way they do for their own reasons. I didn't vote for Bristol, no matter how well she did because I do not like her mother.

Some people might not vote for him because they don't like Cher and it will have nothing to do with the trans thing.

Hopefully the story they back him up with will be put together well and people will see him as just another dancer on the show. I bet some people don't even have a clue who he is! The ones that do, will see him as in inspiration...and if he makes a difference in one person's life after being on the show, then it was awesome that he was on there!

I don't think he will last long because those dances get pretty complicated and I think he is out of shape for that type of dancing....I am hoping I am wrong though.

I will be pulling for him; I think it is pretty damn cool that they asked him to be on the show!
Thanks G. I too am wondering about his physical ability. I am a big guy too. I go up and down and I know how much carrying the extra weight and aging can take out of a person.

I like some others think that having a transman come into their homes via TV on a weekly schedule may help change the opinions of some. I was not 100% thrilled with everything Chaz said or did in his documentary. People are humans, even celebrities. I like to think all humans can change, be teachable.

For my own personal stuff, I am looking forward to seeing what Chaz wears. I really like some of the suits I have seen him wearing. I think Chaz is a handsome guy. I would like to think I am handsome too, with the help of some fashion tips.
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I figure Chaz has to have some dancing ability because nobody just goes on this show if they are horrendous. It's too embarrassing. Plus, I'd like to think he took into account how he wants to represent himself.

I also wonder if the physical nature of the dancing will be what knocks him out. I hope he has twinkle toes and can dance like a dream. I hope the queer community gets behind him and there's lots of positive things to come from this.

And yes, I can't wait to see how Chaz dresses. I like the suits I've seen him in, as well.
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This was an utterly ridiculous piece on Chaz that a psychiatrist for Fox News team posted. Unbelievable.

HERE

A couple of articles calling out the good Doctor:

HERE and HERE
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I figure Chaz has to have some dancing ability because nobody just goes on this show if they are horrendous. It's too embarrassing. Plus, I'd like to think he took into account how he wants to represent himself.

I also wonder if the physical nature of the dancing will be what knocks him out. I hope he has twinkle toes and can dance like a dream. I hope the queer community gets behind him and there's lots of positive things to come from this.

And yes, I can't wait to see how Chaz dresses. I like the suits I've seen him in, as well.
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