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Old 09-05-2011, 08:52 AM   #1
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Cher Slams Bigots, Rallies Support For Chaz Bono on Dancing With the Stars
September 1st, 2011 7:09 AM by Free Britney


Upset by the harsh criticism of Chaz Bono being cast on Dancing With the Stars, his famous mom is rallying to transgendered contestant's defense.

Cher, who fully backed Chaz's decision to become a man, offered overwhelming support of Chaz on Twitter and urged her followers to do the same, writing:

"Lovelies! Chaz is Being Viciously Attacked on Blogs & Message boards about being on DWTS! This is Still America right? It took guts 2 do it."

"I support him no matter what he chooses 2do! God! will here always be haters! It took COURAGE 2 do dwts! TG Chaz has Unlimited supply."
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September 1st, 2011 7:09 AM by Free Britney


Upset by the harsh criticism of Chaz Bono being cast on Dancing With the Stars, his famous mom is rallying to transgendered contestant's defense.

Cher, who fully backed Chaz's decision to become a man, offered overwhelming support of Chaz on Twitter and urged her followers to do the same, writing:

"Lovelies! Chaz is Being Viciously Attacked on Blogs & Message boards about being on DWTS! This is Still America right? It took guts 2 do it."

"I support him no matter what he chooses 2do! God! will here always be haters! It took COURAGE 2 do dwts! TG Chaz has Unlimited supply."
Just voted on this link- thanks for posting it! He is seriously trying to get in shape for this- and maybe all of us voting on just this blog could help him out with all the bigoted garbage that has been floating around. GO VOTE!!!


Chaz on Dancing With the Stars: What's your take? (http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/20...ith-the-stars/)

Look at this! The assbites are winning!!! VOTE in support of him!!!

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I fully support Chaz and ABC!
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It undermines American values!
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Who cares, it's Dancing with the Stars?!?
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Humanity never ceases to amaze me with their gross comments and antiquated ideas about how children are going to react to Chazz dancing with a woman. DUH who else would he dance with? Plus if your 5 year old is up watching Dancing With The Stars perhaps you should take a look at your parenting skills and ask yourself why is my child who is still developing not getting ready for bed and rest time?


There is no *gay agenda* that's being plotted to pervert or pursuade your Barbie playing daughter to leave the Dream House and start working on cars, though if she doesn't know about cars perhaps these parent should take the time and teach their daughter about changing a tire in case anything happens when she's out on the road.

I am also AMAZED on how some of these concerned parents weren't throwing fits when Kendra Wilkinson was on there FFS she was in a polyamorous relationship with the kindgof all things perverted Hugh Heffner, I didn't see all these concerned parents wondering how they were going to explain Kendra's stripper pole dancing moves to them. I certainly didn't see the same hoopla happen when Pam Anderson was on there and she has an infamous sex tape as did Kim Kardashian. These people men and women are not the poster people for all things pure.

I'm curious to see how the sexist douche bag judge Bruno Tonioli reacts towards Chazz he was pretty gross with Ralph Macchio about how he wasn't man enough to handle his dancing partner.


As for Chazz weight or lack of shape he is in, there have been A LOT of DWTS *so called stars* that were not slender and lost A LOT of weight and have managed to keep it off. I hope that is the case for him if that is what he WANTS. His dancing can't be no worse than these past participants:

Bristol Palin--SUCKED!! who btw came in 3rd cause she kept getting votes even though she SUCKED

Pam Anderson--SUCKED!!

Mike *The Situation*--SUCKED AND HE's a DOUCHEBAG

Kendra Wilkinson-- SUCKED AND SHE WHINED

Kate from Kate + 8= SUCKED

I could go on and on. I'll watch cause I love Ricky Lake!!! I'll vote for Chazz because I'll be damned if I watch him get chased out cause some folks don't know how to explain to their children that gender is fluid and Chazz is just a guy who wants to dance.
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Humanity never ceases to amaze me with their gross comments and antiquated ideas about how children are going to react to Chazz dancing with a woman. DUH who else would he dance with? Plus if your 5 year old is up watching Dancing With The Stars perhaps you should take a look at your parenting skills and ask yourself why is my child who is still developing not getting ready for bed and rest time?


There is no *gay agenda* that's being plotted to pervert or pursuade your Barbie playing daughter to leave the Dream House and start working on cars, though if she doesn't know about cars perhaps these parent should take the time and teach their daughter about changing a tire in case anything happens when she's out on the road.

I am also AMAZED on how some of these concerned parents weren't throwing fits when Kendra Wilkinson was on there FFS she was in a polyamorous relationship with the kindgof all things perverted Hugh Heffner, I didn't see all these concerned parents wondering how they were going to explain Kendra's stripper pole dancing moves to them. I certainly didn't see the same hoopla happen when Pam Anderson was on there and she has an infamous sex tape as did Kim Kardashian. These people men and women are not the poster people for all things pure.

I'm curious to see how the sexist douche bag judge Bruno Tonioli reacts towards Chazz he was pretty gross with Ralph Macchio about how he wasn't man enough to handle his dancing partner.


As for Chazz weight or lack of shape he is in, there have been A LOT of DWTS *so called stars* that were not slender and lost A LOT of weight and have managed to keep it off. I hope that is the case for him if that is what he WANTS. His dancing can't be no worse than these past participants:

Bristol Palin--SUCKED!! who btw came in 3rd cause she kept getting votes even though she SUCKED

Pam Anderson--SUCKED!!

Mike *The Situation*--SUCKED AND HE's a DOUCHEBAG

Kendra Wilkinson-- SUCKED AND SHE WHINED

Kate from Kate + 8= SUCKED

I could go on and on. I'll watch cause I love Ricky Lake!!! I'll vote for Chazz because I'll be damned if I watch him get chased out cause some folks don't know how to explain to their children that gender is fluid and Chazz is just a guy who wants to dance.
Like the kids know the difference anyway. Kids see a man or a woman.
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I voted.I just hope the folks who voted negatively one of these days take a deep breath and just get over themselves,I mean this is 2011 ..we are suposed to be liveing in a modern world where being part of the colective isnt the way its is any more.Individuality is what makes the world go around,if we were the same what a boreing plce we would live in.Chaz has done something becomeing who he wanted to be..how many people can say that and be at peace with it?No mater where we go or what we do there will always be someone who wont feel the same as the next person,all Ican say is if you dont like how anyone lives there life just move on and do your own thing somewhere else.Go Chaz!
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I'm sorry I didn't mean to make a comment about his weight like that. I meant that while watching him on interviews and such this past year he was having difficulty even breathing. I would love to see him go the duration and kick some serious ass. In fact I'll be sure to vote and if I lived in his town I'd personally go there and bring him fresh organic veggie juice, salads and vitamins to help him kick that serious ass.

I agree there are some people that are a waste of time on the show. More then anything I would love to see him win and a big FUCK YOU to bigots.
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I'm sorry I didn't mean to make a comment about his weight like that. I meant that while watching him on interviews and such this past year he was having difficulty even breathing. I would love to see him go the duration and kick some serious ass. In fact I'll be sure to vote and if I lived in his town I'd personally go there and bring him fresh organic veggie juice, salads and vitamins to help him kick that serious ass.

I agree there are some people that are a waste of time on the show. More then anything I would love to see him win and a big FUCK YOU to bigots.

Oh I know you didn't mean anything ugly by it, the Kardashian boy is on there cause he is over 200 lbs and this is the heaviest he's been so he liked the idea of DWTS helping him out with that which btw I think it's great I know when my big ass goes dancing I come home sore as hell and tired. Kelly Osbourne lost weight and has kept it off so if that is his goal to be healthy I hope DWTS gives him that opportunity!
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I have never watched DWTS. I am this year thought!!!!!
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One really great thing is going to come out of all this uproar. Kids will be learning about it, little pitchers really do have big ears. I expect to hear about it on the playground any day. This is going to help more kids see themselves and their options in a positive light.
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I'm curious about reaction from the community on Chaz Bono's upcoming appearance on Dancing With The Stars.

I'd love to hear opinions on anything, but the thing I'm most curious about is what the queer community thinks about in terms of awareness.

**Will this be a positive thing for the trans community?
**Will it bring positive awareness or be dissected by the media/general population and catologued under "freak". (No disrespect intended there. Just speaking in terms of how JQ Public often views queer)
**Is the awareness raised good regardless of people's general perception?


As for my views, I think it's pretty cool, even though I'm not a huge fan of the show and only watch it randomly. I just wonder what kind of reaction it will get.

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Will it raise awareness? Absolutely. Now, whether it's positive or negative depends on how well Chaz is able to cope with the crap thrown at him by the show as well as the viewers and asshats in general and also how the show spins things. If there are no 'ooopsie' moments with pronouns and whatnot and they address him respectfully, I think it could sow a seed of acceptance in the viewers. However, if the show goes the way of ratings scavaging, then it might not turn out so well.

There have been some larger contestants in previous seasons that have gone for quite a while on the show. It all comes down to Chaz. He's got a tremendous weight on his shoulders right now, as all eyes will be turned to him. Those against him will be looking for the slightest misstep (pun intended) and those in our community could be looking to him as a role model, which is not only casting extreme pressure on the guy but could be potentially damaging to him and our community, depending on the outcome. He's been in the spotlight all his life, so I hope that he's got the coping skills in line that he'll need to proceed.

Personally, I hope he kicks ass and that Lacey's nice to him. As she has progressed on DWTS she's gotten meaner, but that's another story.
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Just voted on this link- thanks for posting it! He is seriously trying to get in shape for this- and maybe all of us voting on just this blog could help him out with all the bigoted garbage that has been floating around. GO VOTE!!!


Chaz on Dancing With the Stars: What's your take? (http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/20...ith-the-stars/)

Look at this! The assbites are winning!!! VOTE in support of him!!!

Thanks for voting!
54.5%

I fully support Chaz and ABC!
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It undermines American values!
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Who cares, it's Dancing with the Stars?!?
Total Votes: 3799
Read more celebrity gossip at: http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/20...#ixzz1X5f754WC

GO Chaz!!!
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It undermines American values!
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Who cares, it's Dancing with the Stars?!?
Total Votes: 4579

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Who cares, it's Dancing with the Stars?!?
Total Votes: 4579


I think this is great! Rather then a high rating freak show a venue to show support for diversity.
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Honestly, I'm not sure that all the exposure Chaz is getting is doing any good, and I'm more inclined to think it's doing harm. I don't like the image he portrayed of transguys on Becoming Chaz, or that he seems to be acting as the spokesperson/poster boy for transguys and trans people in general. I really do wonder why he chose to go on the show, and if it had anything to do with with his coming out/his documentary and so on to gain more publicity for himself and his book/doc. I've never watched the show, nor do I have an interest in it, but I've already seen the bigoted reactions at work when people read about him and his participation in the newspapers. It doesn't make things any better for me in the work place, and seems to give people more incentive to talk passive aggressive shit about "people who *think* they're men" as though, "oh yeah, we're just discussing the news." If it was simply people's bigotry and he was actually doing some good for trans rights, that would be fine. But he isn't, and his image/personality isn't helping. I would prefer activism, even if it creates difficult situations for transfolks not interested in remaining "stealth" or "passing" as "normal," to occur on a level that truly does raise awareness on sex/gender diversity, rather than seem to make a mockery of transguys on some tv show. As though we don't have enough tv show episodes making mockeries of us (seems like the "thing to do" for crime shows, anyway).

If he were someone who seemed interested in portraying an image of transmen that didn't live up to the macho, misogynist male stereotype already peddled, that would be a nice start. I don't think him remaining in the spotlight is going to make things any better for transguys in the world. I would prefer to see more shows like Transformation, that aired on Global, TransGenerationand Our America. At least they seek to educate, and provide a diversity of trans experiences.

As far as the comments people made online about his participation. Not exactly a shock, unfortunately.
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Standing On The Side Of My Man, Chaz Bono!
By Russell Simmons September 7, 2011

The first time I saw Chaz Bono she went by the name Chastity and I was moving into her mother, Cher's, house in New York's Greenwich Village as her mother was moving out. Chas (as she was known as then) had long blonde hair, was in a band and looked like a pretty young woman.

When Chastity began her transition (which by the way is the title of his book) from female to male and became known as Chaz, my first thought was "Good for her..er, him. Whatever makes him happy" and I didn't think anything more of it. It also didn't turn my head when I heard Chaz was going to be on Dancing With the Stars, partnering with a female.

To each their own. But what did get my attention was reports of public outcries for boycotts of Dancing With The Stars, protests and hate mail being slammed at both ABC and Chaz himself.

This, I thought to myself, is sadly what America, in many ways, still is... A far cry from my own insular reality of progressive friends, co-workers and neighborhood big city folk who have seen it all, embrace change and stand as beacons for tolerance.

Only a few months ago, New York City, the biggest melting pot in the world, passed the same sex marriage bill which was a long time coming. And we have many more states to go before we can call America a gay friendly country.

When you throw in the transgender lifestyle and all that it implies, many people still view that as a choice (and a sinful one at that).

Personally, I cannot imagine anyone waking up one morning and saying to themselves "Hey! Today I think it would be cool to book an appointment to have my breasts removed and take hormone shots to grow a beard!" just because they are bored.

So, when I heard about the call for parents to NOT allow their children to watch Chaz compete as a man with a female partner on Dancing With The Stars, I felt compelled to throw my public support to Chaz Bono and ALL transgendered people.

I have made it my business to visit homeless shelters for LGBT teens and have heard their stories first hand of the struggles they endure to be accepted or to simply survive.

Transgender youth often suffer from depression, victimization, harassment, discrimination, sexual assaults, beatings, taunting and are even more prone to being victims of homicide.

Over at Lauras-Playground.com, a support site for transsexuals, transgender and crossdressers, 50% of their users 13 and up have had at least one suicide attempt by their 20th birthday! Some trans people find themselves so desperate to change their bodies that they will self-mutilate ..specifically engaging in genital mutilation.

Transsexuals have been known to cut off their breasts and penises just to feel whole.

That is what judgment does. That is what fear does. That is what hatred does.

The call for a DWTS boycott is a dangerous step backwards in our quest for human liberation and equality.

Instead of embracing the courageous act of both Chaz and ABC for showcasing the first transgender celebrity to join the cast of of DWTS and using it as a way to send a clear message of tolerance and love to the millions of viewers who watch, intolerant people/groups are instead using ABC's progressive choice to instill fear into parents' minds.

Sadly, these very parents may very well have their own Chastity/Chaz at home desperately looking for a sign that says "I'm OK." Or perhaps the parent that makes the choice to not watch the show is a school teacher who has a little Mark who believes he is in Mary's body sitting in their classroom with nobody else to turn to.

A viewer could easily be that child's doctor, nurse, psychiatrist, family counselor, camp leader, etc. A viewer could be the very person that could be the voice that talks that child down from the ledge when puberty hits and that child is the most vulnerable and most likely to end their own life.

If children are gently led to having open minds and open hearts they will, in my opinion, be stronger, more spiritual happy adults.

There is no harm, in my opinion, for children to understand that some kids have two moms, some have two dads, some are adopted, some don't have any parents at all and yes, some even have a dad that used to be their mom.

-Russell Simmons
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i'm with cowboi...i've never watched the show before either but i will be this season. i walked by chaz's restaurant in long beach while i was there this past week and was reminded how far we have come and what a poignant time period we are living in. it's pretty exciting and i am in full support of him!
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OMG... I am so horrified by this! http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/...ng-with-stars/

(oops, just noticed it's already been posted. I could barely read it however, it is awful!)
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so what if Chaz is a husky fella? Kirstie Alley was just on there and transformed right in front of us! He is an inspiration for all of us who need to get in better shape! Go Chaz!
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OMG... I am so horrified by this! http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/...ng-with-stars/

(oops, just noticed it's already been posted. I could barely read it however, it is awful!)

I posted this on my facebook page and very proud that my son decided to share it on his and make commentary to support.
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I am gonna watch it this time but only cuz he is on it.

I don't see why there has to be so much controversy of it anyways but thats just me.
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