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Im on this low carb thing,I have 135 a day to use but am keeping it mostly at something like 70 to 80 pr day,tho hear lately its been 102 cause of some things im allowed but dont eat much of cause of the high carbs.Tonight I had a cup of sea shell noodles with skettie sause with spicy italan sasuage cooked in it.. the noodles had 30 carbs for the amount I had.I know im well within my allowed carbs but im trying to keep them as low as I can...im half way wanting to change my food plan or stay on what the doc gave me cause I feel I should be loseing more than I am.I just feel a pound aweek isnt enough with all im doing,Oh and my calorie count runs atound 6 to 700 calories a day,I tryed to up the cals and lower the carbs but I feel like a stuffed pig .
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Im on this low carb thing,I have 135 a day to use but am keeping it mostly at something like 70 to 80 pr day,tho hear lately its been 102 cause of some things im allowed but dont eat much of cause of the high carbs.Tonight I had a cup of sea shell noodles with skettie sause with spicy italan sasuage cooked in it.. the noodles had 30 carbs for the amount I had.I know im well within my allowed carbs but im trying to keep them as low as I can...im half way wanting to change my food plan or stay on what the doc gave me cause I feel I should be loseing more than I am.I just feel a pound aweek isnt enough with all im doing,Oh and my calorie count runs atound 6 to 700 calories a day,I tryed to up the cals and lower the carbs but I feel like a stuffed pig .
Realize that you are unique and that a pound a week may be all your specific metabolism may be doing. You should talk to your doctor about ramping up your metabolism. Remember we have to eat to burn the calories, the carbs are what help to break down the proteins. If you aren't eating enough carbs, the proteins will not break down and you will not loose weight. On the flip side if one eats too many carbs it turns to sugar, without any proteins to eat. Finding the balance is at times difficult.
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Hey Healthies,

I just ran across an article on lifehacker that may be of interest. 10 Stubborn Food Myths That Just Won’t Die, Debunked by Science.
It has some interesting things, I have not gone through all of the included links, but it is a good quick layperson oriented overview.

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I just came back from weighing in and I am down four pounds in the last two weeks. I am 6.4 lbs away from my November 18 goal. I gave myself 10 weeks to lose 10 pounds to make it to my new mini goal.

So you can say "I told you so"... no one... c'mon I bet someone is gonna say it but - tracking works. I have tracked for the last two weeks and voila down I went. I also worked my hiney off at the gym the last two weeks. I measured my thighs on the weekend. Now I measured four times in case I had it wrong. But I lost six inches off my thighs since mid August. Squats and Zumba... they really do work.

So, this weekend is Canadian Thanksgiving. We have a big dinner planned. I am fortunate that I don't eat meat and I can't eat bread. My son has asked me to make his favorite peanut butter cookies. I agreed as long as he took the rest of the PB home with him. He agreed, as long as he could take the rest of the cookies too. He is a smart one that boy.

I have a couple of questions for my more seasoned peeps:

When does weight training in women start to create muscles (bulk) as opposed to toning? I am squatting in my five minute segment with 55 lbs. Not much weight, but I am afraid to increase (well really after 5 minutes I cannot always lift more than that off my shoulders and over my head) incase I create bigger muscles and not fat burning.

My second question. I find that when I stop eating certain foods for periods of time and re-introduce them I can no longer tolerate it. Peanut Butter is one. I used to love it. Now if I eat it, even just a Teaspoon I am nauseated. My coffee house was out of soy milk today so I got skim. My body reacted within two sips. Nothing serious, just my body saying Do others experience this as well?

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Wooooooooooohooooooooooo foxyshaman! We are all so proud of you! It's awesome when you finally find a program that clicks for you and your lifestyle. Even better when you start to see results.... that's motivation right there! Keep up the great work! We are all so super proud of you!!!!!

As for cooking around the holidays, you are smart about sending the cookies home. I did that the other night, when I invited my brother over for dinner. He always requests that I make him a chocolate pie (nothing but chocolate pudding, cool whip, graham cracker crust & chocolate shavings)... like you, I sent the remainder with it home with him. No, don't want that kind of temptation! I did manage to make it a lil' healthier using 2% milk and sugar free cool whip...so that one piece I did allow myself wasn't too bad. He didn't even notice

I plan on cooking Thanksgiving dinner at our house this year for my family. My dad is diabetic & my mom is pre diabetic, so I'm gonna do my best to make some healthy modifications whether they like it or not!

As for the muscle instead of toning... I don't really have a clue. Maybe if Candace, Kelt or Thinker (the workout gurus) make it in here they can let us know. Hell, I'm still trying to just work off the fat

I totally hear what you are saying about the what you can/can't eat anymore after starting this journey. I have the same problem with regular rice and pasta. Once I switched to brown rice or wheat pasta, my stomach can't handle the old white products anymore. Who knows, maybe our body is giving us a reminder of how bad that stuff actually was for us.
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I have been extra bad this week! Have been sick and for me that means comfort food. Have to to turn it back around! *sigh*
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Muscle mass is a tricky thing. First how much do you start with and how much are you looking to put on? If one for instance has lean muscle mass bulking would look very different than say Miss Universe. More like a swimmers body. We are all different and what works for one will not work for another. If we're older and lord knows I'm old, I probably would only gain muscles that I've had over the years. Toning them is preferable to me than bulking because I need to retain the elasticity of the muscles. I'm sure everyone here has heard of "too big to stretch out". It happens to some who put too much muscle mass on. So you need to decide which is preferable to you.
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I just came back from weighing in and I am down four pounds in the last two weeks. I am 6.4 lbs away from my November 18 goal. I gave myself 10 weeks to lose 10 pounds to make it to my new mini goal.

So you can say "I told you so"... no one... c'mon I bet someone is gonna say it but - tracking works. I have tracked for the last two weeks and voila down I went. I also worked my hiney off at the gym the last two weeks. I measured my thighs on the weekend. Now I measured four times in case I had it wrong. But I lost six inches off my thighs since mid August. Squats and Zumba... they really do work.

So, this weekend is Canadian Thanksgiving. We have a big dinner planned. I am fortunate that I don't eat meat and I can't eat bread. My son has asked me to make his favorite peanut butter cookies. I agreed as long as he took the rest of the PB home with him. He agreed, as long as he could take the rest of the cookies too. He is a smart one that boy.

I have a couple of questions for my more seasoned peeps:

When does weight training in women start to create muscles (bulk) as opposed to toning? I am squatting in my five minute segment with 55 lbs. Not much weight, but I am afraid to increase (well really after 5 minutes I cannot always lift more than that off my shoulders and over my head) incase I create bigger muscles and not fat burning.

My second question. I find that when I stop eating certain foods for periods of time and re-introduce them I can no longer tolerate it. Peanut Butter is one. I used to love it. Now if I eat it, even just a Teaspoon I am nauseated. My coffee house was out of soy milk today so I got skim. My body reacted within two sips. Nothing serious, just my body saying Do others experience this as well?

Thoughts?? Ideas??
Hey Foxy,

Congratulations! This is terrific!

I don’t know about all this tracking and measuring stuff...sounds a little sketchy to me.

I kinda think you might have answered your own question at least partially on the workout/muscle thing. It sounds like you’ve been working out really hard and doing a lot of things with your lower body and yet it gets smaller. We could speculate about your fast vs slow twitch fibers and all of that, but a couple of things stand out to me; you are vegan or at least close to it, so I think it would be hard for you to get the really large amounts of protein that would accompany the extra heavy slower work of gaining much bulk without resorting to isolates. Of course you may be doing HIIT intervals, but still the dietary stuff...hmm, well, I would tend towards experimenting , you have your current thigh measurements, why not go for the workout you want and check the measurements again in two or three months and see how your body is reacting? Then just adjust the workout accordingly.

Are you meeting your goals as to how you want to perform in endurance, strength, and flexibility? I don’t know your end point, but it sounds like you are paying attention and trying things, and that will lead you to your own answers.

Food tolerance is sure an interesting development for me also, so, I hear where you’re coming from. Who knew wheat could be a sleep aid?? Trial and error....at least it’s not boring, lol.

P.S. cashew butter is brilliant stuff
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Wow Foxy,what a way to go..so glad its working for ya.AS for bulking up,ive been trying my best to do that but with weight restrictions because of my back I cant lift the weight I can because it gets me right between the shoulder blades bad...think hot burning stab in the back...ouch.Back to the suybject,,I am geting some bulking up but it is more toneing up of what muscle I have plus reshapeing my body in relation to the kind oif exersiseing im doing.My worst place is my mid section everything else was comeing along nicely but im still down with this sinus thing that dosent want to give in.I cant do squats but do use a leg press thing that dose some of the same resultsso far im moveing 165 pounds,sometimes I feel like a wimp cause I can ony use anywhere fron 30 to 70 pounds on some of the other things.
Today I went to the gum for this first time in a while but my vertago really put me in my place,all I could do was sit on the floor and hold my head till the spinning stoped and hope I didnt puke when it dose.
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Im on this low carb thing,I have 135 a day to use but am keeping it mostly at something like 70 to 80 pr day,tho hear lately its been 102 cause of some things im allowed but dont eat much of cause of the high carbs.Tonight I had a cup of sea shell noodles with skettie sause with spicy italan sasuage cooked in it.. the noodles had 30 carbs for the amount I had.I know im well within my allowed carbs but im trying to keep them as low as I can...im half way wanting to change my food plan or stay on what the doc gave me cause I feel I should be loseing more than I am.I just feel a pound aweek isnt enough with all im doing,Oh and my calorie count runs atound 6 to 700 calories a day,I tryed to up the cals and lower the carbs but I feel like a stuffed pig .


and be sure to eat the slow digesting carbs. Like sweet potato, brown rice, oatmeal, The only time I have a fast digesting carb is right after my workout.
I try take in less carbs later in the day also.
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and be sure to eat the slow digesting carbs. Like sweet potato, brown rice, oatmeal, The only time I have a fast digesting carb is right after my workout.
I try take in less carbs later in the day also.
That may be part of my problem because I dont eat anywhere a normal meal drueing the day,I usely have cottage chees and some fruit..not much fruit just a little...then for lunch I have a respectable sise salad with a home made dressing,mostly a vinnagarett type.Then a snack of cheese and ceackers with or on its own celery with pimento sperad on...dinner is my main meal.I would east much the same but my son dosent hardly eat much druering the day for lunch so I fix a good meal wich is mostly whatever I can eat with an etra thing or so for him...then a very light something about nine cause if I dont my stomach with be growling at me befopre I get up.I use to have a real bad habbit of eating at all hours of the night so the late snack stops that.
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That may be part of my problem because I dont eat anywhere a normal meal drueing the day,I usely have cottage chees and some fruit..not much fruit just a little...then for lunch I have a respectable sise salad with a home made dressing,mostly a vinnagarett type.Then a snack of cheese and ceackers with or on its own celery with pimento sperad on...dinner is my main meal.I would east much the same but my son dosent hardly eat much druering the day for lunch so I fix a good meal wich is mostly whatever I can eat with an etra thing or so for him...then a very light something about nine cause if I dont my stomach with be growling at me befopre I get up.I use to have a real bad habbit of eating at all hours of the night so the late snack stops that.


For fat loss diet(not to be confused with a heathly diet) one should cut out all sugars, dairy products, fruits(natures candies) and the bad carbs. Get plenty of protien (1.5-2 grams per lb of body weight) Chicken, fish, lean red meat. Asparagus, broccoli, spinach, green beans, cabbage.
Try to use only fresh or frozen instead of canned. In a perfect world one should eat every 2.5 hours. I am able to do this on the weekends, but the type of job I have, I am not able to do this during the day.

If you need something to hold you over during the night, try using Casein. It is a slower digesting protein shake you can drink before bed.
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Shhhh,dont tell my ears ...but they havent had any vertago today...WOW!

No joke,it good to be able to move without feeling like a two day drunk,I hope tomorrow is the same.
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Corkey, Kelt and Rockin' and Pinkie Thank you for your suggestions and comments. I am not trying to bulk up at all. I was just worried that I was pushing too much weight and the result would be bigger muscles. I am going for lean. I have had big thighs long enough !! I have to play it by ear. I will do as you suggested Kelt, and measure them after working with X weight, tracking the changes.

I think it is the farm girl in me still coming out... trying be be all strong and what not!! I love my strong legs but I don't want big legs. I have noticed a huge change in their shape. I am losing weight where I thought would be the LAST place I would lose inches. I can only attribute it to the kinds of things I am doing in my workout.

I am loving my workout routine. I am enjoying my strength and endurance. And slowly but surely I am seeing a difference in my body shape. I don't know what my end goal will be. I guess one day I will look in the mirror and say..ok 10 more and I am done. I am a ways from there... but I am in no rush. I am exceptionally lucky to have the health that I do and a body that cooperates with me.

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Corkey, Kelt and Rockin' and Pinkie Thank you for your suggestions and comments. I am not trying to bulk up at all. I was just worried that I was pushing too much weight and the result would be bigger muscles. I am going for lean. I have had big thighs long enough !! I have to play it by ear. I will do as you suggested Kelt, and measure them after working with X weight, tracking the changes.

I think it is the farm girl in me still coming out... trying be be all strong and what not!! I love my strong legs but I don't want big legs. I have noticed a huge change in their shape. I am losing weight where I thought would be the LAST place I would lose inches. I can only attribute it to the kinds of things I am doing in my workout.

I am loving my workout routine. I am enjoying my strength and endurance. And slowly but surely I am seeing a difference in my body shape. I don't know what my end goal will be. I guess one day I will look in the mirror and say..ok 10 more and I am done. I am a ways from there... but I am in no rush. I am exceptionally lucky to have the health that I do and a body that cooperates with me.

Thank you again for supporting me.
Well, the good thing for you is that female bodies don't naturally bulk up like male bodies do. You would have to work extremely hard to get a good bulk to your muscles.

Congrats on your progress!
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