OCCUPY WALL STREET

[PumaJ]

Dance break during Occupy Portland/OWS

[Cin]

I've been wondering what path those with power will take to sabotage OWS. I mean this can't go on unchecked. Unless, as Heart alluded to in an earlier post, the timing of this will be seen as a way to ensure a republican victory in 2012. I suppose plants that challenge the police and cause confrontations will be part of the plan. Escalating the violence perpetrated against the protestors by the police using plants to instigate will work well and will allow mainstream america to shrug it off as the protestors getting what they deserve. Hopefully nothing too drastic will take place, but if it does let's hope they employ exceedingly stupid infiltrators like this assistant editor of the American Spectator who could not keep his mouth shut about his actions and the reasons behind them.

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/10/11-3

[SoNotHer]

I've been wondering the same, Miss Tick, and waiting for the "other shoe to drop."

Tapu posted a link to a Fox (horrors!) news report that began with long quotes in response to OWS by Cain and Cantor, which necessarily condemned the movement in snarly words.

But here's the positive take away of this: they're paying attention, and they're nervous. And I am hopeful that transmutes into the kind of change we have needed to work in concert with the President's initiatives.

Originally Posted by Miss Tick

I've been wondering what path those with power will take to sabotage OWS. I mean this can't go on unchecked. Unless, as Heart alluded to in an earlier post, the timing of this will be seen as a way to ensure a republican victory in 2012. I suppose plants that challenge the police and cause confrontations will be part of the plan. Escalating the violence perpetrated against the protestors by the police using plants to instigate will work well and will allow mainstream america to shrug it off as the protestors getting what they deserve. Hopefully nothing too drastic will take place, but if it does let's hope they employ exceedingly stupid infiltrators like this assistant editor of the American Spectator who could not keep his mouth shut about his actions and the reasons behind them.

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/10/11-3

[Cin]

Originally Posted by SoNotHer

I've been wondering the same, Miss Tick, and waiting for the "other shoe to drop."

Tapu posted a link to a Fox (horrors!) news report that began with long quotes in response to OWS by Cain and Cantor, which necessarily condemned the movement in snarly words.

But here's the positive take away of this: they're paying attention, and they're nervous. And I am hopeful that transmutes into the kind of change we have needed to work in concert with the President's initiatives.

Absolutely. I'm all for positives. And there are many here. And watching our backs is also positive. I'm sure there are things that can be done, especially mentally, to prepare for these kinds of probable attacks during a protest. I'm sure organizers are aware and have anticipated this. No one could believe that the 1% is unprepared.

[Novelafemme]

Originally Posted by PumaJ

Dance break during Occupy Portland/OWS

This is awesome, PumaJ!! I would totally be out there bustin' a move with them

[Novelafemme]

[Corkey]

Is this from a protest or is it something else? It appears that they are at the mall, yes I used to live there, and the cops have APC's for SWAT, the pics are not coherent. Could you give some perspective on this?

[Cin]

Originally Posted by Corkey

Is this from a protest or is it something else? It appears that they are at the mall, yes I used to live there, and the cops have APC's for SWAT, the pics are not coherent. Could you give some perspective on this?

I stumbled across this article while reading stuff online. I don't know why Ventura California is using armored vehicles or IF they are or really what is going on. It does say ventura police on the vehicle. Here is the link http://uswgo.com/ventura-ca-police-u...he-streets.htm

I thought it was interesting, but I don't know the law about armored vehicles and the police or if there is one. Perhaps police departments often use armored vehicles. They certainly used them in Pittsburgh during the G20 summit. I don't remember seeing them before though. But that doesn't mean it isn't a usual thing. It seems scary though. What do police departments need armored vehicles for?

They are at the mall? Is it usual for armed vehicles with Ventura Police on them to be at the mall? Even if there is a protest or whatever. I mean do police departments have armored vehicles?

[Corkey]

Originally Posted by Miss Tick

I stumbled across this article while reading stuff online. I don't know why Ventura California is using armored vehicles or IF they are or really what is going on. It does say ventura police on the vehicle. Here is the link http://uswgo.com/ventura-ca-police-u...he-streets.htm

I thought it was interesting, but I don't know the law about armored vehicles and the police or if there is one. Perhaps police departments often use armored vehicles. They certainly used them in Pittsburgh during the G20 summit. I don't remember seeing them before though. But that doesn't mean it isn't a usual thing. It seems scary though. What do police departments need armored vehicles for?

Ok thank you. Yes, police departments do use APC's for SWAT teams, they also show them off at all kinds of events for recruiting police officers. In California most cities that have a large population i.e.: LA, SF, Oakland, San Diego, Ventura, San Bernardino have these vehicles. They are nothing new.

[Cin]

Originally Posted by Corkey

Ok thank you. Yes, police departments do use APC's for SWAT teams, they also show them off at all kinds of events for recruiting police officers. In California most cities that have a large population i.e.: LA, SF, Oakland, San Diego, Ventura, San Bernardino have these vehicles. They are nothing new.

Ah okay just some bullshit propaganda. I'm going to delete it then. Thanks.

[Daywalker]

Originally Posted by Corkey

Ok thank you. Yes, police departments do use APC's for SWAT teams, they also show them off at all kinds of events for recruiting police officers. In California most cities that have a large population i.e.: LA, SF, Oakland, San Diego, Ventura, San Bernardino have these vehicles. They are nothing new.

And of course, the Daywalkers' 'hood of South Sacramento.


Couple months ago,
I snapped this shot of one across the street:


There was a 'Hostage Incident' that garnered the attentions of hella
Media trucks n what have you. Of course that also gathered lots of
local folks out to look-see at all the hooplah.


Naturally Sac SWAT was called in.

[ruffryder]

Occupy Wall Street goes global. Arrests in Rome as people fight with the police. hmmm. . I am wondering if people are just using all this Occupy protesting as a way to show their anger on everything they are upset about and cause violence. no bueno.

[citybutch]

[Corkey]

http://www.businessinsider.com/occup...hering-2011-10

Plans for a coordinated national gathering.

[atomiczombie]

Originally Posted by Corkey

http://www.businessinsider.com/occup...hering-2011-10

Plans for a coordinated national gathering.

I'm gonna post the list of plans from your link:

1. The Occupy Wall Street movement, through the local general assembly, should elect an executive committee comprised of 11 people or some other odd number of people that is manageable for meetings. Ideally this committee should represent each city in the U.S. that is being occupied.
2. The executive committee will then attend to local issues such as obtaining permits, paying for public sanitation and dealing with the media. More important, the executive committee shall plan and organize the election of the 870 delegates to a National General Assembly between now and July 4, 2012.
3. As stated in the 99% declaration, each of the 435 congressional districts will form an election committee to prepare ballots and invite citizens in those districts to run as delegates to a National General Assembly in Philadelphia beginning on July 4, 2012 and convening until October 2012.
4. Each of the 435 congressional districts will elect one man and one woman to attend the National General Assembly. The vote will be by direct democratic ballot regardless of voter registration status as long as the voter has reached the age of 18 and is a US citizen. This is not a sexist provision. Women are dramatically under-represented in politics even though they comprise more than 50% of the U.S. population.
5. The executive committee will act as a central point to solve problems, raise money to pay for the expenses of the election of the National General Assembly and make sure all 870 delegates are elected prior to the meeting on July 4th.
6. The executive committee would also arrange a venue in Philadelphia to accommodate the delegates attending the National General Assembly where the declaration of values, petition of grievances and platform would be proposed, debated, voted on and approved. The delegates would also elect a chair from their own ranks to run the meetings of the congress and break any tie votes. We will also need the expertise of a gifted parliamentarian to keep the meetings moving smoothly and efficiently.
7. The final declaration, platform and petition of grievances, after being voted upon by the 870 delegates to the National General Assembly would be formally presented by the 870 delegates to all three branches of government and all candidates running for federal public office in November 2012. Thus, the delegates would meet from July 4, 2012 to sometime in early to late October 2012.
8. The delegates to the National General Assembly would then vote on a time period, presently suggested as one year, to give the newly elected government in November an opportunity to redress the petition of grievances. This is our right as a People under the First Amendment.
9. If the government fails to redress the petition of grievances and drastically change the path this country is on, the delegates will demand the resignation and recall of all members of congress, the president and even the Supreme Court and call for new elections by, of and for the PEOPLE with 99 days of the resignation demand.
10. There will NEVER be any call for violence by the delegates even if the government refuses to redress the grievances and new elections are called for by the delegates. Nor will any delegate agree to take any money, job promise, or gifts from corporations, unions or any other private source. Any money donated or raised by the executive committee may only be used for publicizing the vote, the National General Assembly, and for travel expenses and accommodation at the National General Assembly ONLY. All books and records will be published openly online so that everyone may see how much money is raised and how the money is spent each month. There will be no money allowed to "purchase" delegate votes as we have in the current government. No corporate "sponsorship".

[SoNotHer]

I joined a credit union on Friday (yeah!). Looking forward to checking out Chicago protests tomorrow.

Warren Buffet's son has sided with the OWS protestors -

From -
http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...s-happen-.html

Oct. 13 (Bloomberg) -- Howard Buffett, the Berkshire Hathaway Inc. director and son of Chairman Warren Buffett, said Wall Street protesters were provoked by abuses from corporations amid a widening disparity between rich and poor.

“I think it takes that to make things happen sometimes,” Howard Buffett, 56, said of the demonstrations in an interview yesterday in Des Moines, Iowa. Over the past 15 years, “we saw large corporations really screw people.”

Occupy Wall Street has drawn out protesters from New York to Seattle and gained empathizers among the top executives at Citigroup Inc. and BlackRock Inc. Warren Buffett, the world’s third-richest person, has said he is concerned about inequity in the U.S. The younger Buffett, a farmer and philanthropist, said obtaining enough food has become more difficult for more people.

“There has never been a larger gap between earnings in this country,” said Howard Buffett, who was in Des Moines to deliver a speech at the World Food Prize conference. “There has never been a time in my lifetime when the government is going to cut an incredible amount of programs that support poor people and feed them.”

Protesters criticized the government for propping up financial firms including Citigroup and Bank of America Corp. in 2008 while individuals struggled with unemployment, depressed wages, foreclosures and reduced retirement savings. Republican lawmakers oppose raising taxes to reduce the U.S. deficit and have pushed for cuts to government programs.

‘Get Some Balance’

“We’ve had protesting in the name of the Tea Party on the right side, and now we’re having protesting from the left side,” BlackRock Chief Executive Officer Laurence D. Fink, head of the world’s biggest asset manager, said today at a conference in New York. “Maybe we’re going to get some balance this way. But I do believe that we should not turn our backs to this protesting.”

Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor and a candidate for the Republican presidential nomination, said protesters are targeting “a scapegoat” and are wrong to divide the country. President Barack Obama, who joined Warren Buffett in a push to raise taxes on the wealthy, is guilty of “class warfare,” Romney has said.

“There has been class warfare going on,” Buffett, 81, said in a Sept. 30 interview with Charlie Rose on PBS. “It’s just that my class is winning. And my class isn’t just winning, I mean we’re killing them.”

Howard Buffett, a Berkshire director since 1993, said hunger is rising in the U.S. as well as in poorer nations. A record 45.3 million Americans received food stamps in July and almost one in six live in poverty, the government said. Buffett is president of the Howard G. Buffett Foundation, which advances agriculture in developing nations.

Buffett’s Wagers

Warren Buffett has backed some of the biggest financial firms while chiding bankers for excesses in risk-taking and compensation. Omaha, Nebraska-based Berkshire invested $700 million in Salomon Inc. in 1987, $5 billion in Goldman Sachs Group Inc. in 2008 and $5 billion in Bank of America this year. Buffett, the father, has compared Wall Street to “a church that’s running raffles on the weekend.”

Wall Street “does a lot of good things and then it has this casino,” Buffett said in October 2010. “One of the problems we still have is we have unbalanced incentives for managers of huge financial institutions.”

Jim Chanos of hedge fund Kynikos Associates said this month he understands the anger directed at financial companies. Bill Gross, who runs the biggest bond fund at Pacific Investment Management Co., said in a Twitter post that wage earners are fighting back after three decades of class warfare in which they were “being shot at.” Citigroup CEO Vikram Pandit said yesterday he’d be happy to talk with protesters.

--With assistance from Beth Jinks in New York. Editors: Dan Reichl, Peter Eichenbaum.

To contact the reporters on this story: Andrew Frye in New York at afrye@bloomberg.net; Alan Bjerga in Des Moines, Iowa, at abjerga@bloomberg.net.

To contact the editors responsible for this story: Steve Stroth at sstroth@bloomberg.net; Dan Kraut at dkraut2@bloomberg.net.

[atomiczombie]

Originally Posted by citybutch

LOVE IT!!!

[Gráinne]

I'm staying apart from this, seeing how it's going to pan out. There are some reports of anti-Semitism sneaking in, i.e. "the Jews control Wall Street" and the old saw of Jews=greedy and cheap. I don't know enough about exactly who is demonstrating or if they represent my beliefs.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...treet-movement

[atomiczombie]

Originally Posted by guihong

I'm staying apart from this, seeing how it's going to pan out. There are some reports of anti-Semitism sneaking in, i.e. "the Jews control Wall Street" and the old saw of Jews=greedy and cheap. I don't know enough about exactly who is demonstrating or if they represent my beliefs.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...treet-movement

The New American website is a right-wing news source. I looked at some of their other articles and they are all skewed heavily to the right.

[Glenn]

Alot of those angry and poor Italians realize that a CEO's world works much like the Mafia. For example, how does a recent college grad become a VP in a major corporation when all the others have worked just as hard to qualify? It's because her/his family or friend of the family knew the Don who started the corporation, and greased the skids for that kid to go sliding. I think MOST people who are in the 1% make it from the inside through CONNECTIONS not qualifications. One kid spent 1.5 mil on a Bugatti after the Corp. gets 20mil. in funding, and the VP or Don looks the other way because her/his father is on the board. Then a few innocent programers have to get fired because of mismanagement which is never admitted. This is how their world works sometimes.
So, anyone on the outside should be pissed, because if your not on the inside, you may get left out in the cold. If anything, I think the poor should be angrier.

Originally Posted by ruffryder

Occupy Wall Street goes global. Arrests in Rome as people fight with the police. hmmm. . I am wondering if people are just using all this Occupy protesting as a way to show their anger on everything they are upset about and cause violence. no bueno.