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Old 10-15-2011, 12:36 PM   #1
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Occupy Wall Street goes global. Arrests in Rome as people fight with the police. hmmm. . I am wondering if people are just using all this Occupy protesting as a way to show their anger on everything they are upset about and cause violence. no bueno.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/occup...hering-2011-10

Plans for a coordinated national gathering.
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Plans for a coordinated national gathering.
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1. The Occupy Wall Street movement, through the local general assembly, should elect an executive committee comprised of 11 people or some other odd number of people that is manageable for meetings. Ideally this committee should represent each city in the U.S. that is being occupied.
2. The executive committee will then attend to local issues such as obtaining permits, paying for public sanitation and dealing with the media. More important, the executive committee shall plan and organize the election of the 870 delegates to a National General Assembly between now and July 4, 2012.
3. As stated in the 99% declaration, each of the 435 congressional districts will form an election committee to prepare ballots and invite citizens in those districts to run as delegates to a National General Assembly in Philadelphia beginning on July 4, 2012 and convening until October 2012.
4. Each of the 435 congressional districts will elect one man and one woman to attend the National General Assembly. The vote will be by direct democratic ballot regardless of voter registration status as long as the voter has reached the age of 18 and is a US citizen. This is not a sexist provision. Women are dramatically under-represented in politics even though they comprise more than 50% of the U.S. population.
5. The executive committee will act as a central point to solve problems, raise money to pay for the expenses of the election of the National General Assembly and make sure all 870 delegates are elected prior to the meeting on July 4th.
6. The executive committee would also arrange a venue in Philadelphia to accommodate the delegates attending the National General Assembly where the declaration of values, petition of grievances and platform would be proposed, debated, voted on and approved. The delegates would also elect a chair from their own ranks to run the meetings of the congress and break any tie votes. We will also need the expertise of a gifted parliamentarian to keep the meetings moving smoothly and efficiently.
7. The final declaration, platform and petition of grievances, after being voted upon by the 870 delegates to the National General Assembly would be formally presented by the 870 delegates to all three branches of government and all candidates running for federal public office in November 2012. Thus, the delegates would meet from July 4, 2012 to sometime in early to late October 2012.
8. The delegates to the National General Assembly would then vote on a time period, presently suggested as one year, to give the newly elected government in November an opportunity to redress the petition of grievances. This is our right as a People under the First Amendment.
9. If the government fails to redress the petition of grievances and drastically change the path this country is on, the delegates will demand the resignation and recall of all members of congress, the president and even the Supreme Court and call for new elections by, of and for the PEOPLE with 99 days of the resignation demand.
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I joined a credit union on Friday (yeah!). Looking forward to checking out Chicago protests tomorrow.

Warren Buffet's son has sided with the OWS protestors -

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http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...s-happen-.html

Oct. 13 (Bloomberg) -- Howard Buffett, the Berkshire Hathaway Inc. director and son of Chairman Warren Buffett, said Wall Street protesters were provoked by abuses from corporations amid a widening disparity between rich and poor.

“I think it takes that to make things happen sometimes,” Howard Buffett, 56, said of the demonstrations in an interview yesterday in Des Moines, Iowa. Over the past 15 years, “we saw large corporations really screw people.”

Occupy Wall Street has drawn out protesters from New York to Seattle and gained empathizers among the top executives at Citigroup Inc. and BlackRock Inc. Warren Buffett, the world’s third-richest person, has said he is concerned about inequity in the U.S. The younger Buffett, a farmer and philanthropist, said obtaining enough food has become more difficult for more people.

“There has never been a larger gap between earnings in this country,” said Howard Buffett, who was in Des Moines to deliver a speech at the World Food Prize conference. “There has never been a time in my lifetime when the government is going to cut an incredible amount of programs that support poor people and feed them.”

Protesters criticized the government for propping up financial firms including Citigroup and Bank of America Corp. in 2008 while individuals struggled with unemployment, depressed wages, foreclosures and reduced retirement savings. Republican lawmakers oppose raising taxes to reduce the U.S. deficit and have pushed for cuts to government programs.

‘Get Some Balance’

“We’ve had protesting in the name of the Tea Party on the right side, and now we’re having protesting from the left side,” BlackRock Chief Executive Officer Laurence D. Fink, head of the world’s biggest asset manager, said today at a conference in New York. “Maybe we’re going to get some balance this way. But I do believe that we should not turn our backs to this protesting.”

Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor and a candidate for the Republican presidential nomination, said protesters are targeting “a scapegoat” and are wrong to divide the country. President Barack Obama, who joined Warren Buffett in a push to raise taxes on the wealthy, is guilty of “class warfare,” Romney has said.

“There has been class warfare going on,” Buffett, 81, said in a Sept. 30 interview with Charlie Rose on PBS. “It’s just that my class is winning. And my class isn’t just winning, I mean we’re killing them.”

Howard Buffett, a Berkshire director since 1993, said hunger is rising in the U.S. as well as in poorer nations. A record 45.3 million Americans received food stamps in July and almost one in six live in poverty, the government said. Buffett is president of the Howard G. Buffett Foundation, which advances agriculture in developing nations.

Buffett’s Wagers

Warren Buffett has backed some of the biggest financial firms while chiding bankers for excesses in risk-taking and compensation. Omaha, Nebraska-based Berkshire invested $700 million in Salomon Inc. in 1987, $5 billion in Goldman Sachs Group Inc. in 2008 and $5 billion in Bank of America this year. Buffett, the father, has compared Wall Street to “a church that’s running raffles on the weekend.”

Wall Street “does a lot of good things and then it has this casino,” Buffett said in October 2010. “One of the problems we still have is we have unbalanced incentives for managers of huge financial institutions.”

Jim Chanos of hedge fund Kynikos Associates said this month he understands the anger directed at financial companies. Bill Gross, who runs the biggest bond fund at Pacific Investment Management Co., said in a Twitter post that wage earners are fighting back after three decades of class warfare in which they were “being shot at.” Citigroup CEO Vikram Pandit said yesterday he’d be happy to talk with protesters.

--With assistance from Beth Jinks in New York. Editors: Dan Reichl, Peter Eichenbaum.

To contact the reporters on this story: Andrew Frye in New York at afrye@bloomberg.net; Alan Bjerga in Des Moines, Iowa, at abjerga@bloomberg.net.

To contact the editors responsible for this story: Steve Stroth at sstroth@bloomberg.net; Dan Kraut at dkraut2@bloomberg.net.
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I'm staying apart from this, seeing how it's going to pan out. There are some reports of anti-Semitism sneaking in, i.e. "the Jews control Wall Street" and the old saw of Jews=greedy and cheap. I don't know enough about exactly who is demonstrating or if they represent my beliefs.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...treet-movement
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I'm staying apart from this, seeing how it's going to pan out. There are some reports of anti-Semitism sneaking in, i.e. "the Jews control Wall Street" and the old saw of Jews=greedy and cheap. I don't know enough about exactly who is demonstrating or if they represent my beliefs.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...treet-movement
The New American website is a right-wing news source. I looked at some of their other articles and they are all skewed heavily to the right.
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Alot of those angry and poor Italians realize that a CEO's world works much like the Mafia. For example, how does a recent college grad become a VP in a major corporation when all the others have worked just as hard to qualify? It's because her/his family or friend of the family knew the Don who started the corporation, and greased the skids for that kid to go sliding. I think MOST people who are in the 1% make it from the inside through CONNECTIONS not qualifications. One kid spent 1.5 mil on a Bugatti after the Corp. gets 20mil. in funding, and the VP or Don looks the other way because her/his father is on the board. Then a few innocent programers have to get fired because of mismanagement which is never admitted. This is how their world works sometimes.
So, anyone on the outside should be pissed, because if your not on the inside, you may get left out in the cold. If anything, I think the poor should be angrier.

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Occupy Wall Street goes global. Arrests in Rome as people fight with the police. hmmm. . I am wondering if people are just using all this Occupy protesting as a way to show their anger on everything they are upset about and cause violence. no bueno.
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This would actually be funny if it wasn't so fucking sad!

VIDEO: 24 Arrested at Citibank for Attempting to Move Their Money?

As part of Saturday's global day of action against Wall Street and corporate power, in solidarity with the Occupy Wall Street movement, protesters in New York and elsewhere organized groups to go to the major banks to withdraw their money.

The day started off smoothly, with a group of people organized by the Labor Outreach working group from Occupy Wall Street arriving at a Chase bank to withdraw their money. Chase went off without a hitch, but by the time the protesters made it to a Citibank branch there was trouble.

The video below shows people being locked inside a Citi branch, and then forcibly arrested. The charge, reportedly, is "criminal trespass." For trying to withdraw your own money from a bank?

They might have temporarily been halted from removing their money, but one would have to think that as soon as they get out, they'll return even angrier than before. Not a good customer retention strategy, Citibank


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This would actually be funny if it wasn't so fucking sad!

VIDEO: 24 Arrested at Citibank for Attempting to Move Their Money?

As part of Saturday's global day of action against Wall Street and corporate power, in solidarity with the Occupy Wall Street movement, protesters in New York and elsewhere organized groups to go to the major banks to withdraw their money.

The day started off smoothly, with a group of people organized by the Labor Outreach working group from Occupy Wall Street arriving at a Chase bank to withdraw their money. Chase went off without a hitch, but by the time the protesters made it to a Citibank branch there was trouble.

The video below shows people being locked inside a Citi branch, and then forcibly arrested. The charge, reportedly, is "criminal trespass." For trying to withdraw your own money from a bank?

They might have temporarily been halted from removing their money, but one would have to think that as soon as they get out, they'll return even angrier than before. Not a good customer retention strategy, Citibank


Oh dear lord... that is bullshit. I hope they go to court and that tape is used as evidence.
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wow, thanks for posting that video Miss Tick!

I've been sleeping on and off all day today - I've come down sick and I'm doing what I can to rest and be able to function physically and mentally for the up and coming week... but I penned a poem this afternoon and would like to leave it here in this forum thread. Also, I have a few hours tomorrow early in the morning before I report for work, so I'm going downtown to participate in the OWS/Portland and spend time talking with folks who are still holding the line in support of this social movement.

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~ LDS © October 16th, 2011

And it came to pass, in the fall of the year of 2011,
People of every color, creed,
Religious affiliation, social class status,
Politically held beliefs, gender and sexual orientation gathered
As a people in mass numbers, seemingly not found on a periodic table.

We gather in public spaces to lift up our voice
In concern for a greater social need,
Asking for redress of inequitable treatment,
We seek to be more than just heard:
We seek remedy for that which has enslaved us since time immemorial.

We, the House of the 99%, occupy every corner of the Earth
Where members of a socio-cultural fabric suffer the choke-chained elitist cocktail of corrupt power: We protest Elitist dogma that squanders communally held resources of
Water, food, and the ability to earn a respectable living;
We protest for the reasonable expectation that we deserve more than 1% by the 1%.

We, the House of the 99%, will occupy and represent whether rain, snow or wind:
Because no wind, no rain, no snow or other catastrophic condition will silence our effort to take the 1% to task and hold that 1% accountable under the same conditions
We have endured for far too long. Our voice is a concentration of rational acuity that is collectively held within the House of the 99%.

We, the House of the 99%, will not take a back seat to the 1%:
Our seat of power resides within the commonwealth of the 99%
And we actively tap that seat of power in the name of all that represents
The House of the 99%: Equitable, active social remedy that supports and provides for a quality of life to sustain 100% of humanity - locally and worldwide.
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VIDEO: 24 Arrested at Citibank for Attempting to Move Their Money?

As part of Saturday's global day of action against Wall Street and corporate power, in solidarity with the Occupy Wall Street movement, protesters in New York and elsewhere organized groups to go to the major banks to withdraw their money.

The day started off smoothly, with a group of people organized by the Labor Outreach working group from Occupy Wall Street arriving at a Chase bank to withdraw their money. Chase went off without a hitch, but by the time the protesters made it to a Citibank branch there was trouble.

The video below shows people being locked inside a Citi branch, and then forcibly arrested. The charge, reportedly, is "criminal trespass." For trying to withdraw your own money from a bank?

They might have temporarily been halted from removing their money, but one would have to think that as soon as they get out, they'll return even angrier than before. Not a good customer retention strategy, Citibank



wow. just......WOW. i think this is a peek into what we can expect.
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