BASEBALL! - Page 43

foxyshaman · 10-18-2011, 02:48 PM

I had to stay away from the thread. I was taping the games and watching after. So, I did not want to know the scores or outcomes... it was hard to stay away.

I am super pumped to see the Cardinals and the Rangers in the WS. It is going to be tough for me to choose a team. I love the cardinals jerseys and I love me some texas ball. What is a dirt dog to do??

I was not cheering for the Brewers. I did not watch part of their series. And then I thought...wait I need to know more about the Cardinals before they get to the WS. So, I started to watch.

Well let the slugging begin. Two teams with great hitters. Good pitching. Good BC. What more could a gal ask for?? Well.... a nice cool glass of wine and that would top it all off nicely for me!! Too bad I would have to starve that day to save points for the wine... (sad face here)

Kobi · 10-18-2011, 04:21 PM

Hm.

No baseball or football tonight for the first time in weeks.

Withdrawal setting in.

This bites.

Starbuck · 10-18-2011, 06:14 PM

Game 1 starts tomorrow, Kobi!

Kobi · 10-18-2011, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starbuck

Game 1 starts tomorrow, Kobi!

Is it tomorrow yet?

Dominique · 10-19-2011, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kobi

Is it tomorrow yet?

It's tomorrow NOW. The high in St Louis for today is 43, with 25 to 35 mile an hour winds.....Brrr.

On another note, Kobi....they are talking about it rather consistantly on the radio this morning, word has leaked that the Bo sox may have been drinking (?) hence the epic melt down. Just what Baseball needs, another black eye. I'll look for a like later.
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MLB has asked the players union to BAN smokeless tobacco during the WS
saying this sends a bad message. (also heard on the radio)

I'll check in later.

Dominique · 10-19-2011, 06:30 AM

Here's a link....you decide

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT

Kobi · 10-19-2011, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yellow band

It's tomorrow NOW. The high in St Louis for today is 43, with 25 to 35 mile an hour winds.....Brrr.

On another note, Kobi....they are talking about it rather consistantly on the radio this morning, word has leaked that the Bo sox may have been drinking (?) hence the epic melt down. Just what Baseball needs, another black eye. I'll look for a like later.
-----
MLB has asked the players union to BAN smokeless tobacco during the WS
saying this sends a bad message. (also heard on the radio)

I'll check in later.

43 degrees for a high with 25-35 mile winds. Thats chilly and thats daytime highs. What the heck is the windchill going to be tonight? Not snowing yet is it?

The Boston media has been dissecting the Red Sox team and season since the meltdown. Many unpleasant things have emerged, some have been verified, some denied.

Seems there are a conglomerate of potential reasons why things went wacky. Likely will never know the entire truth, just bits and pieces of it.

Bottom line, from what I have heard and seen, is there is/was a need for a change in leadership. And, players need to be held accountable for their unprofessional behaviors and attitudes.

Hopefully some fresh faces, perspectives, and methods will mold the players back into a cohesive unit so they can maximize their potential next year.

Dominique · 10-19-2011, 05:21 PM

The World Series starts in a few min. I never got back to this thread.

Yes, It sounds like it's time for people to look into the mirror and accept responsibility. (i/e the red sox) We shall see what ownership does in the way of accountability. Of course it's being talked up here, because of the size of the payroll on that team and then that type of behavior goes on. I remember telling you how your designated hitter hit a cheap infield grounder and didn't even run it out, he walked off the field into the dug out and our fans BOOed him loudly. He was looking around like (what?) And when he came up again, they were cat calling Big Pappi. We may suck, but our manager makes us play the game the way it is supposed to be played. Even John Russell did. Mannequin and all....lol. But...when Lloyd McClendon was the manager, rumors circulated, he was a vodka drinker...and was often boozed up in the dug out, and thats why they fired him with something like 18 games left......so wrong is wrong.

OK......I have my green smoothie ready to go in a beer mug! Party ON!
May the best team win, no cheating.

Starbuck · 10-19-2011, 06:23 PM

LET'S GO RANGERS!

AtLast · 10-20-2011, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yellow band

Geeze, you and I could have been out there in Mccovey cove with our kayaks.....acting like we had the world by the BALLS (base balls, of course)

Yeah! Damn!! It would be great to be out there with you- I bet you would get to the balls hit out fastwer than anyone!!

YES, the Cards win the first game!! And it was a low score game- pitching was good. Both of these teams can rack up runs. Wonder what will happen today...

macele · 10-20-2011, 05:55 AM

chris carpenter did a good job against an amazing texas lineup.
and cj wilson did better than i thought he would lol.
i really looked for carpenter to step up.
both sides, relief pitching, did great.

tonight, they may go back to a slug fest. i hope not.
i love to see the pitcher work his/her stuff.
big fast pitch softball fan.

tony la russa is the man.

you know mark mcqwire is the cardinals hitting coach.
i have mixed emotions about mark. but i think he may be a pretty good coach.
a player can certainly learn a lot from him.
david freese says mcqwire is a big reason for his success.
and surely mcqwire has something to do with lance berkmans resurgin'.
if we look at the cardinals hitting stats for the season and thus far, ...
something has change for the better.
i guess mcqwire does deserve a second chance. i just wish he didn't need one.

go cardinals!

Dominique · 10-20-2011, 06:26 AM

Mark McGwire, lied to a grand jury. He, and many others, tarnished baseball. Barry-roid-Bonds has yet to get his. I think NONE of them should have any association with the game. They broke the law. They should be treated like any other criminals.

I have no problem posting this about Mark.
Hence my comment last night, NO CHEATING!

Dominique · 10-20-2011, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macele

i love to see the pitcher work his/her stuff.
big fast pitch softball fan.Me too. I love the battery of baseball, both pitching and catching. I agree about fast pitch softball too. I don't see much of that around here.

tony la russa is the man. Tony has changed his style of managing over the years. He used to play the game a little dirty. Until people started playing him that way, then he didn't it so much and he corrected it. Plus the umpires have stepped it up and do not allow that stuff any more. He was notorious for having his player on second steal the catchers signals to the pitcher. That's a gentlemans rule in baseball. None of that. So teams started beaning his batters in the butt, or the hip (ooops)

He's the first one screaming when he has a hit bat's man now.

Dominique · 10-20-2011, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtLast

Both of these teams can rack up runs. Wonder what will happen today...

Oh wow, it was a chilly night with that wind. That had to factor in on those hits. It was a really good game. Yeah, same time, same channel...the whole way through.

We have that weather today. I can't imagone being a fan at a baseball game. (worldseries....I'd be there in a snow mobile suit)

macele · 10-20-2011, 06:47 AM

i agree, no cheating. we have to earn it, on our own, no help. no steroids.
that's why i say i have mixed emotions. i watched closely when he went for
roger maris' record. how emotional he was with the maris' family. he did wrong.
it's about more than just cheating. he did maris wrong. maybe he should be thrown out of baseball entirely.
i know for sure he doesn't belong in the hall of fame.
but i do believe in 2nd chances. even 3rd and 4th, sometimes.

i love to collect. i bought the wheaties box with mcqwire on it, when he broke the record.
i still have the box, but it doesn't mean anything anymore. i also have the cal ripken wheaties box, ... that one means something.

macele · 10-20-2011, 06:52 AM

well, the wheaties box does mean something. he cheated to get it.
that box has a "broken heart".

AtLast · 10-20-2011, 09:14 AM

Yup, LaRussa cleaned it up. Something about Oakland and dirty play and it just seems like no matter what, managers or coaches in Oakland end up being called dirty, I think. The Raiders have always had a bad rep. I have never liked any of the Oakland teams and I live on the East Bay side of SF! I'm glad LaRussa left and went to the Red Birds.

When he was here, however, he did a lot of work for sheltered and abused animals and also he was a big anti-date rape advocate. His daughter was a victim of date rape and LaRussa got right out there in the faces of male athletes about it. He also was involved in organizations dealing with date rape and the use of drugs by perpetrators to compromise young women. There was a very sensitive and moving mini-doc with LaRussa and his daughter that I felt demonstrated his understanding the dynamics of date rape and how it effects the self-esteem of teen girls.

I miss him being here, but Oakland atheletic teams seem to tarnish a lot of reps with the dirty play stuff. Part of me thinks it the whole stereotype that Al Davis (may he RIP- recently died) perpetuated with the Oakland Raiders. Rather be rooting for Tony in St Louis!

Kobi · 10-20-2011, 09:22 AM

Cardinals are looking good. Was nice to finally get to see them play. Carpenter is one big boy isnt he? Looks like a linebacker on the mound.

I'm hoping for some batting fireworks in a couple of these games. Both these teams can hit and I would love to see some hitting!

Dominique · 10-20-2011, 11:04 AM

[QUOTE=Kobi;441884]

Cardinals are looking good. Was nice to finally get to see them play. Carpenter is one big boy isnt he? Looks like a linebacker on the mound. I was totally in my element in the top of the first....the pitcher (Carpenter) making that e x t e n d e d reach slide sort of thing to get the out at first. Then Molina, the Cards catcher, making that awesome throw, to get the runner stealing second. That throw was a half step ahead of the slide! (Pitcher/Catcher)

I'm hoping for some batting fireworks in a couple of these games. Both these teams can hit and I would love to see some hitting! We may have to wait until game three in Texas, hopefully it will be warmer....I'm hoping we see 7 games. They are evenly matched.
/QUOTE]
Again, I have no real favorite. I like both teams.

Dominique · 10-20-2011, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtLast

When he was here, however, he did a lot of work for sheltered and abused animals and also he was a big anti-date rape advocate. His daughter was a victim of date rape and LaRussa got right out there in the faces of male athletes about it. He also was involved in organizations dealing with date rape and the use of drugs by perpetrators to compromise young women. There was a very sensitive and moving mini-doc with LaRussa and his daughter that I felt demonstrated his understanding the dynamics of date rape and how it effects the self-esteem of teen girls.I'll use red, let me know if this hurts anybody's eyes. Kobi uses Blue. UPCLOSE and PERSONAL> Thank you for this story. I did not know this. It only proves to me that athletes are human beings and personal things effect them too.

We do not hear the expression *slipped her a mickey* like we did when I was in my early 20's. Hmm, for sure. But maybe thats because I'm older now and my life has changed drastically.

.

I miss him being here, but Oakland atheletic teams seem to tarnish a lot of reps with the dirty play stuff. Part of me thinks it the whole stereotype that Al Davis (may he RIP- recently died) perpetuated with the Oakland Raiders. Rather be rooting for Tony in St Louis!

I know he's an awesome manager now!

10-18-2011, 02:48 PM	#841
foxyshaman Member How Do You Identify?: spiritually minded dirt dog Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: canada Posts: 898 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,957 Thanked 2,592 Times in 663 Posts Rep Power: 21474852	I had to stay away from the thread. I was taping the games and watching after. So, I did not want to know the scores or outcomes... it was hard to stay away. I am super pumped to see the Cardinals and the Rangers in the WS. It is going to be tough for me to choose a team. I love the cardinals jerseys and I love me some texas ball. What is a dirt dog to do?? I was not cheering for the Brewers. I did not watch part of their series. And then I thought...wait I need to know more about the Cardinals before they get to the WS. So, I started to watch. Well let the slugging begin. Two teams with great hitters. Good pitching. Good BC. What more could a gal ask for?? Well.... a nice cool glass of wine and that would top it all off nicely for me!! Too bad I would have to starve that day to save points for the wine... (sad face here) __________________ Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. Muriel Strode

10-18-2011, 06:14 PM	#843
Starbuck Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Soft Femme Preferred Pronoun?: She, her Relationship Status: Unavailable Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 2,436 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,378 Thanked 2,148 Times in 756 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	Game 1 starts tomorrow, Kobi! __________________ To forgive is to set the prisoner free, And then discover the prisoner was you.

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Dominique Member How Do You Identify?: Female/Lesbian/half the athlete I used to be Preferred Pronoun?: she/her Relationship Status: Dates Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: So proud to be a Pittsburgher Posts: 1,484 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,645 Thanked 3,730 Times in 1,166 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	i/e the drinking Bo Sox Here's a link....you decide http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT

10-19-2011, 06:23 PM	#849
Starbuck Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Soft Femme Preferred Pronoun?: She, her Relationship Status: Unavailable Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 2,436 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,378 Thanked 2,148 Times in 756 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	LET'S GO RANGERS! __________________ To forgive is to set the prisoner free, And then discover the prisoner was you.

10-20-2011, 06:26 AM	#852
Dominique Member How Do You Identify?: Female/Lesbian/half the athlete I used to be Preferred Pronoun?: she/her Relationship Status: Dates Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: So proud to be a Pittsburgher Posts: 1,484 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,645 Thanked 3,730 Times in 1,166 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	remember Pete Rose? Mark McGwire, lied to a grand jury. He, and many others, tarnished baseball. Barry-roid-Bonds has yet to get his. I think NONE of them should have any association with the game. They broke the law. They should be treated like any other criminals. I have no problem posting this about Mark. Hence my comment last night, NO CHEATING!

10-18-2011, 04:21 PM	#842
Kobi Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: Biological female. Lesbian. Relationship Status: Happy Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Hanging out in the Atlantic. Posts: 9,234 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 9,840 Thanked 34,636 Times in 7,642 Posts Rep Power: 21474861	Hm. No baseball or football tonight for the first time in weeks. Withdrawal setting in. This bites.

10-19-2011, 05:21 PM	#848
Dominique Member How Do You Identify?: Female/Lesbian/half the athlete I used to be Preferred Pronoun?: she/her Relationship Status: Dates Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: So proud to be a Pittsburgher Posts: 1,484 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,645 Thanked 3,730 Times in 1,166 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	The World Series starts in a few min. I never got back to this thread. Yes, It sounds like it's time for people to look into the mirror and accept responsibility. (i/e the red sox) We shall see what ownership does in the way of accountability. Of course it's being talked up here, because of the size of the payroll on that team and then that type of behavior goes on. I remember telling you how your designated hitter hit a cheap infield grounder and didn't even run it out, he walked off the field into the dug out and our fans BOOed him loudly. He was looking around like (what?) And when he came up again, they were cat calling Big Pappi. We may suck, but our manager makes us play the game the way it is supposed to be played. Even John Russell did. Mannequin and all....lol. But...when Lloyd McClendon was the manager, rumors circulated, he was a vodka drinker...and was often boozed up in the dug out, and thats why they fired him with something like 18 games left......so wrong is wrong. OK......I have my green smoothie ready to go in a beer mug! Party ON! May the best team win, no cheating.

10-20-2011, 05:55 AM	#851
macele Member How Do You Identify?: a bold-assed maximus Preferred Pronoun?: she Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: mississippi Posts: 1,066 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,178 Thanked 3,231 Times in 847 Posts Rep Power: 21474850	chris carpenter did a good job against an amazing texas lineup. and cj wilson did better than i thought he would lol. i really looked for carpenter to step up. both sides, relief pitching, did great. tonight, they may go back to a slug fest. i hope not. i love to see the pitcher work his/her stuff. big fast pitch softball fan. tony la russa is the man. you know mark mcqwire is the cardinals hitting coach. i have mixed emotions about mark. but i think he may be a pretty good coach. a player can certainly learn a lot from him. david freese says mcqwire is a big reason for his success. and surely mcqwire has something to do with lance berkmans resurgin'. if we look at the cardinals hitting stats for the season and thus far, ... something has change for the better. i guess mcqwire does deserve a second chance. i just wish he didn't need one. go cardinals!

10-20-2011, 06:47 AM	#855
macele Member How Do You Identify?: a bold-assed maximus Preferred Pronoun?: she Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: mississippi Posts: 1,066 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,178 Thanked 3,231 Times in 847 Posts Rep Power: 21474850	i agree, no cheating. we have to earn it, on our own, no help. no steroids. that's why i say i have mixed emotions. i watched closely when he went for roger maris' record. how emotional he was with the maris' family. he did wrong. it's about more than just cheating. he did maris wrong. maybe he should be thrown out of baseball entirely. i know for sure he doesn't belong in the hall of fame. but i do believe in 2nd chances. even 3rd and 4th, sometimes. i love to collect. i bought the wheaties box with mcqwire on it, when he broke the record. i still have the box, but it doesn't mean anything anymore. i also have the cal ripken wheaties box, ... that one means something.

10-20-2011, 06:52 AM	#856
macele Member How Do You Identify?: a bold-assed maximus Preferred Pronoun?: she Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: mississippi Posts: 1,066 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,178 Thanked 3,231 Times in 847 Posts Rep Power: 21474850	well, the wheaties box does mean something. he cheated to get it. that box has a "broken heart".

10-20-2011, 09:14 AM	#857
AtLast Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: Woman Preferred Pronoun?: HER - SHE Relationship Status: Relating Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CA & AZ I'm a Snowbird Posts: 5,408 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 11,826 Thanked 10,827 Times in 3,199 Posts Rep Power: 21474857	Yup, LaRussa cleaned it up. Something about Oakland and dirty play and it just seems like no matter what, managers or coaches in Oakland end up being called dirty, I think. The Raiders have always had a bad rep. I have never liked any of the Oakland teams and I live on the East Bay side of SF! I'm glad LaRussa left and went to the Red Birds. When he was here, however, he did a lot of work for sheltered and abused animals and also he was a big anti-date rape advocate. His daughter was a victim of date rape and LaRussa got right out there in the faces of male athletes about it. He also was involved in organizations dealing with date rape and the use of drugs by perpetrators to compromise young women. There was a very sensitive and moving mini-doc with LaRussa and his daughter that I felt demonstrated his understanding the dynamics of date rape and how it effects the self-esteem of teen girls. I miss him being here, but Oakland atheletic teams seem to tarnish a lot of reps with the dirty play stuff. Part of me thinks it the whole stereotype that Al Davis (may he RIP- recently died) perpetuated with the Oakland Raiders. Rather be rooting for Tony in St Louis!

10-20-2011, 09:22 AM	#858
Kobi Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: Biological female. Lesbian. Relationship Status: Happy Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Hanging out in the Atlantic. Posts: 9,234 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 9,840 Thanked 34,636 Times in 7,642 Posts Rep Power: 21474861	Cardinals are looking good. Was nice to finally get to see them play. Carpenter is one big boy isnt he? Looks like a linebacker on the mound. I'm hoping for some batting fireworks in a couple of these games. Both these teams can hit and I would love to see some hitting!

10-20-2011, 11:04 AM	#859
Dominique Member How Do You Identify?: Female/Lesbian/half the athlete I used to be Preferred Pronoun?: she/her Relationship Status: Dates Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: So proud to be a Pittsburgher Posts: 1,484 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,645 Thanked 3,730 Times in 1,166 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	[QUOTE=Kobi;441884] Cardinals are looking good. Was nice to finally get to see them play. Carpenter is one big boy isnt he? Looks like a linebacker on the mound. I was totally in my element in the top of the first....the pitcher (Carpenter) making that e x t e n d e d reach slide sort of thing to get the out at first. Then Molina, the Cards catcher, making that awesome throw, to get the runner stealing second. That throw was a half step ahead of the slide! (Pitcher/Catcher) I'm hoping for some batting fireworks in a couple of these games. Both these teams can hit and I would love to see some hitting! We may have to wait until game three in Texas, hopefully it will be warmer....I'm hoping we see 7 games. They are evenly matched. /QUOTE] Again, I have no real favorite. I like both teams.