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Old 10-24-2011, 11:06 PM   #1
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I thought Chaz danced better tonight than ever,the judges I could kick in the butt.Each season of this show I dislike Len more as he goes on,not one of the contestants are or ever will be as good as pro dancers over the long haul.Chaz has had to use his body in ways he never had to before,it takes time to be able to learn and do the moves..I know I give it my best shot when I dance,im a big guy but I have also been an athletic person most of my life,Chaz hasnt.I really think they pissed him and Lacy off with the coments they made,I hope he comes back next week.
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I'll post video's when they become available. I found this interesting.

Tension boils over in the ballroom on 'Dancing'
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LOS ANGELES (AP) -- The latest episode of "Dancing With the Stars" included insults, an animal comparison and two nearly perfect performances.
A heated exchange between professional dancer Maksim Chmerkovskiy and head judge Len Goodman stole the spotlight from first-place finishers Ricki Lake and J.R. Martinez.
Chmerkovskiy and his partner, soccer star Hope Solo, landed near the bottom of the judges' leaderboard Monday. With 20 points out of 30, they finished just ahead of Chaz Bono, in last place with 19 points.
One of the seven remaining celebrities will be dismissed during Tuesday's episode. Judges' scores combined with viewer votes determine who is kicked off the hit ABC show each week.
When Goodman called Solo's rumba "your worst dance of the whole season," Chmerkovskiy suggested the judge get out of the dance business.
Chmerkovskiy told one of the show's hosts that the judges seem to pick on certain contestants, and he kept up the conversation after Monday's live episode.
"The judges have their favorites," he said. "They always have."
Bono's professional partner, Lacey Schwimmer, agreed.
"They always have their favorites, and this season it's completely clear who they are. I won't name names, but we are not one of them," she said. "I'm actually proud of what Maks said. A lot of us don't get the chance to stand up for us and our partners."
Schwimmer cried backstage during Monday's episode and was still upset after the show, when she complained about the judges' "rude" remarks about Bono.
"Every week he gets referred to as an animal," she said. "They always comment on his personality, and last I checked, this was a dancing show."
After the couple danced their tango, judge Bruno Tonioli said Bono was like "a cute little penguin trying to be a big menacing bird of prey." Tonioli has also compared Bono to an Ewok.
Mom Cher tweeted her support before and after Bono's performance.
Bono said after the show that he "came on here to show people a strong proud transgender man, and I'm not going to let the judges get me down."
David Arquette, who finished in third place with his "Grease"-themed routine, said tensions are running high as the competition heats up.
"It's just a high-pressure part of the season," he said after Monday's episode. "Everybody's really passionate about it, so it's not a surprise people get fired up."
He earned 23 points for a quickstep that "had the exuberance and charge of a frisky teenager on spring break," Tonioli said.
Nancy Grace came in second with her best score yet: 24 points for a foxtrot that one judge called "a show-stopper."
Lake and Martinez tied with the top score of 29 points.
Rob Kardashian - who had sisters Kim and Khloe and their basketball husbands among his cheering section - finished in fourth place with 22 points for a cha-cha Tonioli described as "adequate, but it didn't have the impact and power it should at this stage."
The seven couples also danced a group routine to a medley of Broadway songs. Broadway star Kristin Chenoweth performed a medley of her own, singing a pair of show tunes.
Chenoweth is set to return on Tuesday's episode, when a sixth celebrity is ousted. Carson Kressley, Chynna Phillips, Kristin Cavallari, Elisabetta Canalis and Ron Artest/Metta World Peace have already been eliminated this season.
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I am wondering about Chaz's ability to do lifts. That may become an issue later on. Testtosterone does make you stronger to a degree, but its not like going thru your development years with it.

I know lifts are a bit of strength, and a lot of leverage, but the strength comes in the transition between lift and ground.

I hope we get to see.
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Anyone else getting a little sick of the judges snarky comments regarding body size/shape, etc - not just with Chaz, but they've done it to Hope too....
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Anyone else getting a little sick of the judges snarky comments regarding body size/shape, etc - not just with Chaz, but they've done it to Hope too....

I totally agree. and it seems like Len is getting worse every season! Granted, they are "judges", BUT, I think they sometimes forget that they are judging amateurs , NOT professional dancers. Sometimes, the pros get so frustrated with the judges and rightly so. This season, imparticular has had some of the best celebrity dancers yet. The competition is tough. I hate when anyone gets voted off.
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Anyone else getting a little sick of the judges snarky comments regarding body size/shape, etc - not just with Chaz, but they've done it to Hope too....
Don't mind the "constructive critisism" that, if followed, will help a dancer get better - but in what world would Bruno's comments to Chaz make him a better dancer? Pisses me off.
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"I took so much away from this," Chaz Bono said after getting the news. "This was an amazing journey that really pushed me and showed me that I could do so much more than I ever thought I could."

"I came on this show because I wanted to show America a different kind of man," he added. "I dedicate everything I did to all the people out there like me, especially the kids and teens who are struggling. You can have a wonderful, great life and be successful and happy."
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Don't mind the "constructive critisism" that, if followed, will help a dancer get better - but in what world would Bruno's comments to Chaz make him a better dancer? Pisses me off.
I know a lot of people feel like we do about the judges,its one thing to give your opinion,but when it becomes name calling and degradeing thats not being a pro its being an ass.One thing for shure the way the judges have been has dimed my likeing for the show.
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Had to go and look at Ricki's number. She and JR are definitely the ones to beat IMO. They look so much more smooth and comfortable than everyone else. Chaz looked better, but they're still very simplistic compared to everyone else. Still, he's done a great job to hang in this far. Although the judges are very much looking at technique in ways the voters don't, I still feel like they're being harsh on Hope. Her athleticism is being penalized. When you're an athlete of that caliber, it's hard to let go of what you know and how you move.

As for the other three, I don't give three hoots about 'em and didn't even bother to watch. I can't wait until they're voted off soon.
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