OCCUPY WALL STREET

[Toughy]

police now say 4500..........

KRON 4 is probably a better news feed......it's not FOX

peaceful children and adults ....its about 1.5 hour walk to the Port from downtown........and there are still plenty o folks downtown

[betenoire]

some simple ways to support the occupy movement without sleeping in a park

sorry if this has been posted already. i appreciated coming across this today, since i don't live anywhere near any of the "occupy ____" places and am frankly not in a position to go occupy anything.

[SoNotHer]

Excellent. Thank you, Bete Noire.

Originally Posted by betenoire

some simple ways to support the occupy movement without sleeping in a park

sorry if this has been posted already. i appreciated coming across this today, since i don't live anywhere near any of the "occupy ____" places and am frankly not in a position to go occupy anything.

[Corkey]

Originally Posted by Toughy

police now say 4500..........

KRON 4 is probably a better news feed......it's not FOX

peaceful children and adults ....its about 1.5 hour walk to the Port from downtown........and there are still plenty o folks downtown

Maddow has it as her opening tonight. Rock on Occupy!

[Martina]

Wow. The coverage on Rachel Maddow is awesome. Proud of the East Bay.

[SoNotHer]

http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908...42018#45142018



From - http://www.occupyoakland.org/

[MissItalianDiva]

Police are now forming. Not in gear but in hoards and making themselves very visible

[MissItalianDiva]

Inside source has told me cops are coming in groves down West Grand towards the port with lights and sirens...hopefully they stay back

[Ebon]

Originally Posted by MissItalianDiva

Inside source has told me cops are coming in groves down West Grand towards the port with lights and sirens...hopefully they stay back

I hope so too.

[persiphone]

Originally Posted by SoNotHer

http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908...42018#45142018



From - http://www.occupyoakland.org/

i was a bit taken aback by the Exxon ad at the beginning of the vid link promoting oil sands processing. whoa. really? is nothing sacred? lol

[SoNotHer]

I thought the same thing, P. In fact, it feels like reading a Kindle version of 1984 only to interrupted by micro-marketing and given a list of suggested reading. Exxon, BP and the likes have infiltrated Maddow, YouTube and some of my other places.

Originally Posted by persiphone

i was a bit taken aback by the Exxon ad at the beginning of the vid link promoting oil sands processing. whoa. really? is nothing sacred? lol

[atomiczombie]

Hey folks sorry I didn't get to posting yesterday. I was really tired when I finally got to my computer after a busy day. Some thoughts about the Oakland strike:

I was really psyched that there were so many protestors who peacefully shut down several banks. Many businesses closed their doors in solidarity with the general strike and that was heartening to see. That they shut down the port of Oakland was beyond amazing and a great victory! Yay!

It is frustrating, however, to see the local anarchist group come into the protest and break windows and throw rocks/bottles, things like that. Those people wearing black and hiding their faces weren't part of Occupy. They were there just to cause trouble. What is even more frustrating is that some of the media called them "protestors" when reporting on those incidents of violence and destruction. They didn't make a distinction, and that gives a totally wrong impression of Occupy. Violence and destruction of property is usually the first and biggest stories that the media seizes on, so that tends to overshadow the message and victories of the general strike. I don't know how Occupy can keep these anarchist hoodlums away from the protests, however. I don't think they can. That fact frustrates me.

Thank you everyone who is keeping us up to date on all the latest details of the protests and political actions, and sharing your ideas. I am going out of town this weekend so I probably won't be able to post, but I will be keeping up as best I can and will be back next week to participate more.

[Greyson]

Originally Posted by atomiczombie

It is frustrating, however, to see the local anarchist group come into the protest and break windows and throw rocks/bottles, things like that. Those people wearing black and hiding their faces weren't part of Occupy. They were there just to cause trouble. What is even more frustrating is that some of the media called them "protestors" when reporting on those incidents of violence and destruction. They didn't make a distinction, and that gives a totally wrong impression of Occupy. Violence and destruction of property is usually the first and biggest stories that the media seizes on, so that tends to overshadow the message and victories of the general strike.

Drew, thanks for your thoughts and actions you are taking for the 99%. I watched the ABC, CBS, and KRON news shows early this morning before coming into work and I thought the coverage of Occupy Oakland was balanced. I understood clearly by their reports that the anarchist were not part of Occupy Oakland. I also saw video of the the Occupy people assisting in the clean up of some of the anarchist vandalism.

I work in downtown Oakland and me and most of my coworkers are real people with responsibilities to our families and community. I do understand peaceful civil protest but I will never understand the violence. Much of the property and people that get destroyed are not the Fat Cats with no sense of humanity beyond their next take over, buy out, financial scam.

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by Toughy

police now say 4500..........

KRON 4 is probably a better news feed......it's not FOX

peaceful children and adults ....its about 1.5 hour walk to the Port from downtown........and there are still plenty o folks downtown

I heard estimates of up to 10,000.

Something on my mind- I understand fully targeting a port in terms of it symbolizing how the US trade agreements and "shipping" of US jobs outside of the US has hurt the 99%. Yet, I can't help but think of the truck drivers and all of the folks working at the port in "regular" jobs could be hurt by this if this becomes a continued tactic.

Private property was damaged by some (very small group) of demonstrators. Shutting down the port for a few hours is a big deal and makes a point- and ZI don't see how smashing up someone's house or business is going to help bring all of the groups of the 99% that need to join together- get together.

I can see that the tactic of closing down candidate offices as something that can get attention at the source. This movement taking hold in the midst of a general election year is one of the best aspects I see in terms of getting our politicians to "get" that we are sick and tired of being duped. And that the deadlock in Congress is not acceptable! This is a time in which what does work in our political processes is needed more than ever. Congress has not passed one bill since the 2010 mid-terms that can significantly promote job growth.

There is a part of me that wants to see OWS take some of the same steps in coalition building to have an effect on elections. And fight the voter supression tactics going on. The Obama administration is taking action with this, but, this should outrage every voter in the US.

Sounds like the Occupy folks that do not agree with smashing things up are out apologizing for the actions of a few today and helping clean up some of the damage.

[atomiczombie]

These anarchists in black had nothing to do with the Occupy movement. They were there just to cause mayhem and destruction. You can see here that the Occupy protestors were trying to stop them without much luck.

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by atomiczombie

These anarchists in black had nothing to do with the Occupy movement. They were there just to cause mayhem and destruction. You can see here that the Occupy protestors were trying to stop them without much luck.

And they always show up at these kinds of things. I think it was really great that Occupy people even made signs yesterday telling this group to knock it off. It is really important for Occupy demonstrators to let people know that they do not agree with the anarchist groups that simply want to use a protest to their advantage.

Lots of Occupy people are making points today about not supporting destruction of property or violence. It is really important that this movement recognize all "walks" of the 99%. I think they are doing a good job overall with this.

[atomiczombie]

Some great pictures of the general strike in Oakland yesterday:

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...0185115&type=1