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Old 11-12-2011, 09:27 AM   #21
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Here's what I found this morning on MSNBC. Just read the first paragraph and it will make you angry.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45267885...ew_york_times/
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In many cases the Campus Police hands are tied by the upper administration and the fact that the "athletics" bring money into the university. I don't like it it pisses me off I have SEEN when a player was reported to have sexually assaulted a young lady and the campus police did due diligence and arrested the suspected player. Only to have the head coach come down on us for doing so and for interviewing HIS player...
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Of corse Bard, the football program, ahead of the safety of the student.

Just curious, Are you protected under the whistle blower act?

I realize that in itself is a double edged sword.
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Of corse Bard, the football program, ahead of the safety of the student.

Just curious, Are you protected under the whistle blower act?

I realize that in itself is a double edged sword.
not sure as a supervisor it is murky. But as a sworn law enforcement officer I have a duty and obligation to report. The Cleary Act is very specific and for good reason people are entrusting us with their most precious child. I look at it like this I have a daughter what if that victim was my child?

and it was not a football player it was Basketball. the head coach of football we have has stones and morals. He understands we have a job to do.

A cover up had to come in the other case at Penn from high up administration and the head of campus police with possible pressure from the head coach
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Thanks for coming back and answering Bard. Penn State has a history of covering up. Just a little snip of what I was talking about before.


Training Rules chronicles a lawsuit filed in 2006 by student athlete Jennifer Harris against Penn State University and women’s basketball head coach Rene Portland. During her 27 years of coaching, Portland enforced three strict rules: no drinking, no drugs and no lesbians. The documentary examines how a wealthy athletic department, enabled by the silence of a complacent university, allowed talented athletes, thought to be gay, to be dismissed from their college team.

Joe Paterno defended Portland to the end!

Joe Paterno describes the current *tragedy* at Penn State as “…one of the great sorrows of my life.”
He should add to that list the devastating harm he did in protecting women’s basketball coach Rene Portland while she blatantly discriminated against the women on her team who she presumed were lesbian. She was public about her practices until 1992 when Penn State included sexual orientation in their non-descrimination policy.
Apparently that didn’t stop Portland. In 2005 Jennifer Harris, a star player for the Lady Lions, was dismissed from the team. She charged Rene Portland, Tim Curley and Penn State with discrimination based on her perceived sexual orientation. Penn State tried to wiggle out of it saying that their non-discrimination policy was not a legal document. The case was settled in 2007. The film Training Rules depicts the 27 years that Portland was able to wreak havoc on the lives of so many of her players while Paterno and the university did absolutely nothing to stop her.
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Baylor's "Homosexuality as Gateway Drug" Class


​One thing about Baylor: It stands by its convictions, no matter how wacky.
Take, for instance, the class they offer called "Homosexuality as Gateway Drug." Some might find that hilariously offensive, or offensively hilarious, but Baylor knows it is a serious look at how homosexuality can lead to....heroin? Bestiality? We guess you'd have to take the class to find out.

Baylor, of course, had no problem with the course. And so when popular Web sites Buzzfeed and Reddit took note of the class, Baylor stood its ground. For about 24 hours.

Then it took the bold, decisive and principled move of renaming the class "Family Studies."

Meaning the family is a gateway drug?

We guess you'll have to take the class to find out.
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​One thing about Baylor: It stands by its convictions, no matter how wacky.
Take, for instance, the class they offer called "Homosexuality as Gateway Drug." Some might find that hilariously offensive, or offensively hilarious, but Baylor knows it is a serious look at how homosexuality can lead to....heroin? Bestiality? We guess you'd have to take the class to find out.

Baylor, of course, had no problem with the course. And so when popular Web sites Buzzfeed and Reddit took note of the class, Baylor stood its ground. For about 24 hours.

Then it took the bold, decisive and principled move of renaming the class "Family Studies."

Meaning the family is a gateway drug?

We guess you'll have to take the class to find out.
I am curious to see what the course has to offer and what readings are involved.
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Actually, it makes me sick to my stomach.

"Penn State scandal shows how sex crimes on campus are covered up. 'There are a lot of very invidious ways that a school can go about squelching these reports. This is everyone's problem,' lawyer says

After the body of an Eastern Michigan University freshman was found in her dorm room in December 2006, naked from the waist down with a pillow over her head, the chief of the university police said there was “no reason to suspect foul play,” and let her parents believe she had died of natural causes.

That silence held for more than two months. In that time, the student who was eventually convicted in her murder had free run of a campus where he was previously caught climbing into a window of a university building...."

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I am grateful to see this -

Thousands at Penn State honor alleged sex abuse victims



People gather in front of the Old Main building for a candlelight vigil on the Penn State campus Friday in State College, Pa. The vigil is being held in support of the alleged victims of a child sex abuse scandal involving a former assistant football coach.

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People gather in front of the Old Main building for a candlelight vigil on the Penn State campus Friday in State College, Pa. The vigil is being held in support of the alleged victims of a child sex abuse scandal involving a former assistant football coach.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45260778.../#.TsM8ZPJjO2s
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Me too, Catalina Rose, and I am grateful to see the focus shift from Paterno and the Lions to the children who have been sexualized and victimized and whose lives will be forever changed.

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The vigil was immediate! (I posted that) however the media chose to ignore that and gave fuel to the students who were outside Paterno's house and then eventually rioting in the streets. Thats how sick our society is.

More SICK news to report. Paterno is going to collect half a million in retirement. Wait! How does that work....he was fired..... I'm not understand the boys club rules.
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Actually, it makes me sick to my stomach.

"Penn State scandal shows how sex crimes on campus are covered up. 'There are a lot of very invidious ways that a school can go about squelching these reports. This is everyone's problem,' lawyer says

After the body of an Eastern Michigan University freshman was found in her dorm room in December 2006, naked from the waist down with a pillow over her head, the chief of the university police said there was “no reason to suspect foul play,” and let her parents believe she had died of natural causes.

That silence held for more than two months. In that time, the student who was eventually convicted in her murder had free run of a campus where he was previously caught climbing into a window of a university building...."
There are cover-ups all over our college and university scandals including a hell of a lot concerning rape of female students. My hope is that this blows apart a hell of a lot of administrations across the US including what is going on outside of athletics.

I think the Penn State students at large are doing a good job in getting sentiments out about what has happened to the victims and their families. And Penn has always been up there in terms of several academic programs it has. I also don't negatively judge the students in athletics around this.
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Wouldn't it though. I would love for the culture that breeds this to change.

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I think the Penn State students at large are doing a good job in getting sentiments out about what has happened to the victims and their families. And Penn has always been up there in terms of several academic programs it has. I also don't negatively judge the students in athletics around this.
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Yes, the retirement money is one new piece of this, and in another, he may have well had some sense of what was coming down the pick. He transferred home ownwership of his house to his wife for $1 in July:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/16/sp...ife-for-1.html

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The vigil was immediate! (I posted that) however the media chose to ignore that and gave fuel to the students who were outside Paterno's house and then eventually rioting in the streets. Thats how sick our society is.

More SICK news to report. Paterno is going to collect half a million in retirement. Wait! How does that work....he was fired..... I'm not understand the boys club rules.
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Yes, the retirement money is one new piece of this, and in another, he may have well had some sense of what was coming down the pick. He transferred home ownwership of his house to his wife for $1 in July:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/16/sp...ife-for-1.html
UGH! Well, this investigation has actually been going on for quite a few years. All of these people have been collecting pay checks from a state run educational institution on the tax payer's dime! Also, there is an Asst. DA still "missing" from the earlier cases that never got to court.

By the time this goes through the courts (both criminal and civil), we are going to see a lot uncovered that will be sickening, yet, nothing new. And that bugs the hell out of me.
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UGH! Well, this investigation has actually been going on for quite a few years. All of these people have been collecting pay checks from a state run educational institution on the tax payer's dime! Also, there is an Asst. DA still "missing" from the earlier cases that never got to court.

By the time this goes through the courts (both criminal and civil), we are going to see a lot uncovered that will be sickening, yet, nothing new. And that bugs the hell out of me.
The DA who first was involved is now our Governor. He's a piece of tea party crap.
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Oh, Jeez, Corkey. Lucky you...

This story has become a freefall. I'm actually grateful it won't go away, especially if it brings so much to light.

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Oh, Jeez, Corkey. Lucky you...

This story has become a freefall. I'm actually grateful it won't go away, especially if it brings so much to light.
Yup! And I think this is going to blow the lid off of much more than child sex abuse as it unfolds. And it should because it is not only child sexual abuse predators that do the actual abuse- this issue is very much tied to power dynamics and politics- mainly patriarchal power politics. The Catholic Church is the prime example of this. And one would have to be stuck on stupid to not connect the dots with other patriarchal based institutions all around us that self-protect.
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Is tap water causing gayness?


The mayor of a small town in Peru is concerned that mineral levels in the water could lead to an increase in homosexuality, LGBT Asylum News reports.

José Benítez, the mayor of Huarmey, a coastal town in the Ancash Region of Peru, made the comment at the launch of a local project designed to increase access to water.

The town of Huarmey is famed for its abundant shrimp and long beaches, but the mayor has become concerned it may gain a different sort of reputation due to high levels of strontium in the tap water.

The metal, he claimed, reduces male hormones and could cause an increase in homosexuality among the population.

The water comes from Tabalosos, a town which a Lima-based television station famously said in 2000 was inhabited by 14,000 exclusively-gay men.

The Tabalosina mayor, Jorge Luis Vasquez, said: “Young people have low self-esteem by this stigma”.

Dr. Robert Castro Rodriguez, the dean of the College of Pharmaceutical Chemistry of Lima, told a radio station that strontium can cause bone cancer, anaemia and cardiovascular problems. A link with homosexuality has yet to be identified.
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