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[persiphone]

Originally Posted by dykeumentary

Abhorrent. As a non-violent person who has been involved in actions and organizing against police brutality, it sickens me every time.

But it seems they aren't "really" just sitting there doing nothing. The demonstrators seem to have received direction to disperse, and chose not to, as well as received warning that they would be pepper-sprayed, and they chose to stay. So with all the media there, it seems the police response was anticipated, and maybe that was the goal.

A well-organized action uses these kinds of tactics to gain attention to their cause, so I would consider this a successful action if the protestors moved closer to achieving their goals through what happened here.

I know I can be a buzzkill. I trust the readers of this thread know I'm interested in achieving a world of fairness, with the least violence possible. I dont support putting oneself in harm's way- someone being pepper prayed or beaten -- unless they are part of a coordinated action that has medical and legal contingency plans. Since it seems like police brutality is going to become standard behavior even against white people (!) I hope as few as possible suffer permanent damage, and at least it can be documented in service of worthy goals. Including ending police brutality against all people.

uuuhhh.....what does "even against white people" mean? surely, i'm taking it the wrong way.

[dykeumentary]

Originally Posted by persiphone

uuuhhh.....what does "even against white people" mean? surely, i'm taking it the wrong way.

I'm glad you asked me to clarify: I am saying that police brutality is and has been a reality for People of Color, particularly for men of African decent, for centuries in the USA.

Now with all the photos and videos of police brutality against 99% protestors available, I am seeing white people surprised by police brutality, as if it is something brand new. It had never crossed the minds, or the experience, of some white people.

[persiphone]

Originally Posted by dykeumentary

I'm glad you asked me to clarify: I am saying that police brutality is and has been a reality for People of Color, particularly for men of African decent, for centuries in the USA.

Now with all the photos and videos of police brutality against 99% protestors available, I am seeing white people surprised by police brutality, as if it is something brand new. It had never crossed the minds, or the experience, of some white people.

thanks for clarifying cuz for a sec i was like....oh no she dint! *ghetto neck rolling* and i thought surely i am misunderstanding after having done the online forums thing with you for so many years now.

[dykeumentary]

Originally Posted by persiphone

thanks for clarifying cuz for a sec i was like....oh no she dint! *ghetto neck rolling* and i thought surely i am misunderstanding after having done the online forums thing with you for so many years now.

I'm so glad you know this about me! How is it that we've never gone out dancing? We should have some fun times together....soon, I fear.

[persiphone]

Originally Posted by dykeumentary

I'm so glad you know this about me! How is it that we've never gone out dancing? We should have some fun times together....soon, I fear.

prolly has something to do with being on opposite ends of the country perhaps?

[SoNotHer]

Are you two discussing dancing in a time of great social unrest, political upheaval and paradigm shifting?

Well, then, go on with your bad selves. :-)

Originally Posted by persiphone

prolly has something to do with being on opposite ends of the country perhaps?

[Dominique]

Originally Posted by SoNotHer

Are you two discussing dancing in a time of great social unrest, political upheaval and paradigm shifting?

Well, then, go on with your bad selves. :-)

Hears Janis Joplin music

[Toughy]

Originally Posted by dykeumentary

I'm glad you asked me to clarify: I am saying that police brutality is and has been a reality for People of Color, particularly for men of African decent, for centuries in the USA.

Now with all the photos and videos of police brutality against 99% protestors available, I am seeing white people surprised by police brutality, as if it is something brand new. It had never crossed the minds, or the experience, of some white people.

Actually if you go back to the 60's......it was white folk who were also beat, gassed, arrested during political protests and they were surprised then....

white folk in the US have no oral tradition to pass down the reality of oppression by the owner, landed class........it's no surprise that some are shocked today....

as Sonny & Cher sang

"and the beat goes on'