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ok... so obviously OWS is a hot topic. i posted a link on another page about the davis pepper spray incident. and my cousin who is a cop responded, along with her mom, they fully back wall street and the cops, not a surprise, but she gave me a penal code to justify the police action: PC 407
CALIFORNIA PENAL CODE · 407 PC Unlawful assembly defined. Whenever two or more persons assemble together to do an unlawful act, or do a lawful act in a violent, boisterous or tumultuous manner, such assembly is an unlawful assembly. the link below explains the criteria for conviction of this offense: http://www.justia.com/criminal/docs/...2600/2686.html after reading it... my thinking is that it still wasn't justified from what i saw because it didn't appear to be a riot, and there didn't appear to be malicious intent or intent to break the law. because my cousin is so adamantly defending the action, (i really don't know the motivation, because she refused to answer any of my questions, so i can only speculate) i'm wondering if the cops are perceiving the demonstrations as riots, illegal activity, or if it's her more conservative (and privileged) viewpoint that she's perceiving it this way, or an attempt to stick together? it sounds like other people on this thread have had similar experiences... thoughts? |
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![]() I wish they could have finished. He was listening then some idiot started chanting. Then it just got garbled up. Not that I'm a fan of Obama, but had this had been Bush, they would have been escorted out or arrested. Sorry if this is already posted. The Obama chanting was a bit unsettling for me though.
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Ask your cousin how many of her friends have lost their houses to the banks while they were working on a modification? My experience as an REO real estate broker is that while the bank is working on your modification they are "double tracking" the foreclosure. Meaning they are stringing you out and then "Bam!" they take your house. I didn't dream up derivatives. Did you? I didn't even dream up options, and while I understand the investment product, options are no more than legalized gambling. I said that in 2000 when I got my Series 7 license. This shit is legalized gambling. So when the OWS folks say the banks have been gambling with our money on our future, they are exactly right. Bank of America is so bloated that they could fail and it would take months for the rank and file to find out about it. Yet their executives still receive huge pay packages while the middle class shrinks away. Don't get me wrong, I'm a capitalist for sure, but I believe in conducting business with a soul. Am I working towards the top 1%? You bet your ass. But I think you don't have to make every penny on every deal. You have to give back. A lot. Its the right thing to do. You help people who need help. And you operate with a conscience, not from a place of greed. Greed is still is one of the seven deadly sins. If every business person handled themselves in this manner this country would be out of this mess in a month. |
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"Double tracking," eh? The games never end do they?
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Amendment Section 1 [Corporations are not people and can be regulated] The rights protected by the Constitution of the United States are the rights of natural persons only. Artificial entities, such as corporations, limited liability companies, and other entities, established by the laws of any State, the United States, or any foreign state shall have no rights under this Constitution and are subject to regulation by the People, through Federal, State, or local law. The privileges of artificial entities shall be determined by the People, through Federal, State, or local law, and shall not be construed to be inherent or inalienable. Section 2 [Money is not speech and can be regulated] Federal, State and local government shall regulate, limit, or prohibit contributions and expenditures, including a candidate’s own contributions and expenditures, for the purpose of influencing in any way the election of any candidate for public office or any ballot measure. Federal, State and local government shall require that any permissible contributions and expenditures be publicly disclosed. The judiciary shall not construe the spending of money to influence elections to be speech under the First Amendment. Section 3 Nothing contained in this amendment shall be construed to abridge the freedom of the press. Help Us Name The Amendment! What do you think the amendment should be called? We want to hear from you! Here are some ideas already proposed: Amendment to End Corporate Rule Clean Elections Amendment Abolish Corporate Personhood Amendment Amendment to Remove Corporations from the Constitution End Corporate Personhood Amendment Making Democracy Real Amendment The Democracy Renewal Amendment Government of the People Amendment The 99% Amendment The Amendment to Liberate Democracy (or Our Republic) We the People Amendment The Peoples Personhood Amendment Corporations are Not People, Money is Not Speech Amendment The Common Sense Amendment |
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